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ok...little more challenging this time... No answers provided... You provide the ruling. There is one true false question....enjoy..will post answers in a few days.

B1 attempts to catch a punt (no fair catch signal) that crosses the neutral

zone and strikes his shoulder (a muff) and bounces into the air. The

ball does not touch the ground and airborne A1 receives the ball in

flight and first returns to the ground out of bounds.

As the flow of the play moves to the left, right tackle A77 is disengaging

from his contact with B50 when A27 blocks B50 at his knee.

Third and 10. A21 catches a forward pass and fumbles when tackled

after gaining 10 yards. The fumble is recovered by grounded A24 five

yards in advance of the fumble. During the pass, the passer is roughed.

After the ready-for-play signal, substitute B12 enters the huddle or

defensive formation and the departing player delays more than three

seconds before leaving the huddle or formation and departing the

field of play.

Fourth and 16 at the 50-yard line. At the snap, B1 is offside. Team A

advances the ball to the 30-yard line and fumbles. During the loose ball,

an inadvertent whistle is sounded.

Snapper A1 snaps the ball before the official declares the ball ready for

play. A2 muffs the snap and B1 recovers the ball.

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A1 interferes with B1’s opportunity to catch a kick when a scrimmage

kick fails to cross the neutral zone.

True or False - The Catch of an opponents fumble is a recovery.

Is there a difference between a muff and a fumble....if so, what is it??

B1 signals and does not touch a punt, but while the untouched ball is

loose in the field of play, he blocks an opponent 1. more than three

yards beyond the neutral zone or 2. in the receiver’s end zone. Are the blocks legal? If not, what is the penalty?

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B1 attempts to catch a punt (no fair catch signal) that crosses the neutral

zone and strikes his shoulder (a muff) and bounces into the air. The

ball does not touch the ground and airborne A1 receives the ball in

flight and first returns to the ground out of bounds.

Team B's ball where it went out of bounds.

As the flow of the play moves to the left, right tackle A77 is disengaging

from his contact with B50 when A27 blocks B50 at his knee.

Illegal block

Third and 10. A21 catches a forward pass and fumbles when tackled

after gaining 10 yards. The fumble is recovered by grounded A24 five

yards in advance of the fumble. During the pass, the passer is roughed.

Penalty enforced from spot of fumble recovery.

After the ready-for-play signal, substitute B12 enters the huddle or

defensive formation and the departing player delays more than three

seconds before leaving the huddle or formation and departing the

field of play.

Illegal substitution

Fourth and 16 at the 50-yard line. At the snap, B1 is offside. Team A

advances the ball to the 30-yard line and fumbles. During the loose ball,

an inadvertent whistle is sounded.

Guessing....1st and 10 at 20 if Team A recovered???

Snapper A1 snaps the ball before the official declares the ball ready for

play. A2 muffs the snap and B1 recovers the ball.

TEchnically no play as occured...Right??

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A1 interferes with B1’s opportunity to catch a kick when a scrimmage

kick fails to cross the neutral zone.

no penalty live ball

True or False - The Catch of an opponents fumble is a recovery.

True

Is there a difference between a muff and a fumble....if so, what is it??

Yes...fumble is when a player has possession and looses the football....a muff is for instance, a punter missing the snap, or player trying pick up a fumble, or a punt glancing off a shoulder pad ;)

B1 signals and does not touch a punt, but while the untouched ball is

loose in the field of play, he blocks an opponent 1. more than three

yards beyond the neutral zone or 2. in the receiver’s end zone. Are the blocks legal? If not, what is the penalty?

blocks are illegal, 10 yard penalty

pcola, why is the penalty for a punter faking getting hit, hurt, etc. never called!!! I would love to see that called.

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pcola,  why is the penalty for a punter faking getting hit, hurt, etc. never called!!!  I would love to see that called.

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not sure why its not called.... kinda like faking being fouled in basketball...I know in the 17 years I officiated basketball, i never saw that called either...maybe Major has seen it called in bball...

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B1 attempts to catch a punt (no fair catch signal) that crosses the neutral

zone and strikes his shoulder (a muff) and bounces into the air. The

ball does not touch the ground and airborne A1 receives the ball in

flight and first returns to the ground out of bounds.

Team B's ball where the ball went out

As the flow of the play moves to the left, right tackle A77 is disengaging

from his contact with B50 when A27 blocks B50 at his knee.

legal block, I think. If A27 did this down field it would be an illegal block below the waist. I guess I'm assuming that A77 is still at the line.

Third and 10. A21 catches a forward pass and fumbles when tackled

after gaining 10 yards. The fumble is recovered by grounded A24 five

yards in advance of the fumble. During the pass, the passer is roughed.

1st and 10 Team A, 30 yards down field (10 for the catch, 5 on the fumble recovery, 15 roughing the passer)

After the ready-for-play signal, substitute B12 enters the huddle or

defensive formation and the departing player delays more than three

seconds before leaving the huddle or formation and departing the

field of play.

Illegal Substitution. 5 yard penalty

Fourth and 16 at the 50-yard line. At the snap, B1 is offside. Team A

advances the ball to the 30-yard line and fumbles. During the loose ball,

an inadvertent whistle is sounded.

Ball is dead when whistle is blown. Team A can either repeat fourth down at the 45 or by declining the offside they have the ball 1st and 10 at the 30.

Snapper A1 snaps the ball before the official declares the ball ready for

play. A2 muffs the snap and B1 recovers the ball.

Play is dead. 5 yard penalty on the offense, retry kick

A1 interferes with B1’s opportunity to catch a kick when a scrimmage

kick fails to cross the neutral zone.

Kick catch interference

True or False - The Catch of an opponents fumble is a recovery.

True

Is there a difference between a muff and a fumble....if so, what is it??

A muff is when the ball is touched on a punt and no control was established the kicking team cannot advance the muffed ball but does gain possesion. A fumble is when control is established and the ball is lost. The kicking team can advance the ball

B1 signals and does not touch a punt, but while the untouched ball is

loose in the field of play, he blocks an opponent 1. more than three

yards beyond the neutral zone or 2. in the receiver’s end zone. Are the blocks legal? If not, what is the penalty?

yes the blocks are legal

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kinda like faking being fouled in basketball...I know in the 17 years I officiated basketball, i never saw that called either...maybe Major has seen it called in bball...

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Nope. Well, not correctly. The penalty for that (technical foul for unsportsmanlike conduct) is too severe and therefor it is rarely called. I have seen a player with a legal guarding position "flop" on minimal conduct and get charged with a blocking (common) foul. When you explain to the coach that he deserved a tech, they usually shut up.

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kinda like faking being fouled in basketball...I know in the 17 years I officiated basketball, i never saw that called either...maybe Major has seen it called in bball...

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Nope. Well, not correctly. The penalty for that (technical foul for unsportsmanlike conduct) is too severe and therefor it is rarely called. I have seen a player with a legal guarding position "flop" on minimal conduct and get charged with a blocking (common) foul. When you explain to the coach that he deserved a tech, they usually shut up.

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exactly the way i always handled that..

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B1 attempts to catch a punt (no fair catch signal) that crosses the neutral

zone and strikes his shoulder (a muff) and bounces into the air. The

ball does not touch the ground and airborne A1 receives the ball in

flight and first returns to the ground out of bounds.

Team B's ball where it went out of bounds

As the flow of the play moves to the left, right tackle A77 is disengaging

from his contact with B50 when A27 blocks B50 at his knee.

Illegal block on A27

Third and 10. A21 catches a forward pass and fumbles when tackled

after gaining 10 yards. The fumble is recovered by grounded A24 five

yards in advance of the fumble. During the pass, the passer is roughed.

Team A decides whether to accept or decline the penalty. If it accepts the penalty, 1st down 15 yards from the previous LOS. If it is declined, team A's ball at the point of the fumble.

After the ready-for-play signal, substitute B12 enters the huddle or

defensive formation and the departing player delays more than three

seconds before leaving the huddle or formation and departing the

field of play.

Illegal substitution. More than 11 men in the huddle.

Fourth and 16 at the 50-yard line. At the snap, B1 is offside. Team A

advances the ball to the 30-yard line and fumbles. During the loose ball,

an inadvertent whistle is sounded.

Team A ball 1st down on the 30-yard line

Snapper A1 snaps the ball before the official declares the ball ready for

play. A2 muffs the snap and B1 recovers the ball.

Dead ball. No play

A1 interferes with B1’s opportunity to catch a kick when a scrimmage

kick fails to cross the neutral zone.

No penalty

True or False - The Catch of an opponents fumble is a recovery.

True

Is there a difference between a muff and a fumble....if so, what is it??

Yes. A fumble is a loss of possession of the ball by the player. A muff is the touching of a loose ball by a player attempting to gain possession. A muff is considered a fumble when it occurs in the center to quarterback exchange.

B1 signals and does not touch a punt, but while the untouched ball is

loose in the field of play, he blocks an opponent 1. more than three

yards beyond the neutral zone or 2. in the receiver’s end zone. Are the blocks legal? If not, what is the penalty?

No, they would be considered as illegal contact. 10 yard penalty.

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gonna give a few more days on the latest set...before i post the answers....

If anybody wants me to post more of these let me know... This is more popular than i expected....

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B1 attempts to catch a punt (no fair catch signal) that crosses the neutral

zone and strikes his shoulder (a muff) and bounces into the air. The

ball does not touch the ground and airborne A1 receives the ball in

flight and first returns to the ground out of bounds.

Team B at the point it goes out of bounds.

As the flow of the play moves to the left, right tackle A77 is disengaging

from his contact with B50 when A27 blocks B50 at his knee.

Illegal chop block, 15 yards from the spot of the foul

Third and 10. A21 catches a forward pass and fumbles when tackled

after gaining 10 yards. The fumble is recovered by grounded A24 five

yards in advance of the fumble. During the pass, the passer is roughed.

15 yard penalty from the spot the ball is recovered.

After the ready-for-play signal, substitute B12 enters the huddle or

defensive formation and the departing player delays more than three

seconds before leaving the huddle or formation and departing the

field of play.

Illegal substitution. 5 yard penalty.

Fourth and 16 at the 50-yard line. At the snap, B1 is offside. Team A

advances the ball to the 30-yard line and fumbles. During the loose ball,

an inadvertent whistle is sounded.

Ball is awarded to Team A at the point it is fumbled. Play is resumed at the point of interuption.

Snapper A1 snaps the ball before the official declares the ball ready for

play. A2 muffs the snap and B1 recovers the ball.

Dead ball foul. 5 yard and Team A retains possession.

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A1 interferes with B1’s opportunity to catch a kick when a scrimmage

kick fails to cross the neutral zone.

Not applicable. No foul.

True or False - The Catch of an opponents fumble is a recovery.

True

Is there a difference between a muff and a fumble....if so, what is it??

Yes. Possession by the player. Applicable in cases of possesion point when teh ball goes out of bounds.

B1 signals and does not touch a punt, but while the untouched ball is

loose in the field of play, he blocks an opponent 1. more than three

yards beyond the neutral zone or 2. in the receiver’s end zone. Are the blocks legal? If not, what is the penalty?

Legal in 1., but not in 2. Penalty is ten yards from the point of where the ball would be spotted for first down.

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If anybody wants me to post more of these let me know...  This is more popular than i expected....

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Keep 'em coming! My wife would tell you that I think I am the best referee in the country on football Saturdays!

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ok....gonna post answers to the previous batch either today or tomorrow...then i'll work on some more...

Only person that I know here that officiates any sport in MAJOR....So, I was wondering, does anybody (especially those that complain about them every game) really know what it takes for them to get where they are??? I know Major can answer this...but does anybody else know???

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ANSWERS ADDED BELOW

B1 attempts to catch a punt (no fair catch signal) that crosses the neutral

zone and strikes his shoulder (a muff) and bounces into the air. The

ball does not touch the ground and airborne A1 receives the ball in

flight and first returns to the ground out of bounds.

RULING: Team B’s ball at the spot where the ball crossed the sideline. First and 10.

As the flow of the play moves to the left, right tackle A77 is disengaging

from his contact with B50 when A27 blocks B50 at his knee.

RULING: Chop block. Basic-spot enforcement. Previous-spot enforcement

if the foul occurs behind the neutral zone.

Third and 10. A21 catches a forward pass and fumbles when tackled

after gaining 10 yards. The fumble is recovered by grounded A24 five

yards in advance of the fumble. During the pass, the passer is roughed.

RULING: Penalize 15 yards from the spot of recovery by A24 (end of

last run), first down for Team A.

After the ready-for-play signal, substitute B12 enters the huddle or

defensive formation and the departing player delays more than three

seconds before leaving the huddle or formation and departing the

field of play.

RULING: Violation of the substitution rule. Dead-ball

foul. (Note: The referee is not required to warn a departing player to

leave the huddle immediately.)

Fourth and 16 at the 50-yard line. At the snap, B1 is offside. Team A

advances the ball to the 30-yard line and fumbles. During the loose ball,

an inadvertent whistle is sounded.

RULING: Team A may refuse the

penalty and put the ball in play on the 30-yard line, first and 10.

Snapper A1 snaps the ball before the official declares the ball ready for

play. A2 muffs the snap and B1 recovers the ball.

RULING: Dead-ball foul. Penalty—Five yards from the succeeding spot, Team A’s ball. The

ball does not become alive, and all action should be stopped immediately

by the game officials.

A1 interferes with B1’s opportunity to catch a kick when a scrimmage

kick fails to cross the neutral zone.

RULING: Interference with the opportunity to catch a kick does not apply, and all players are eligible to touch, recover and advance the ball. Therefore, any player legally

may push an opponent in an actual attempt to get at the ball; but no

player may hold an opponent to prevent his reaching the ball or in an

attempt to permit a teammate to reach it (Rules 9-1-2-d Exception 3 and

9-3-3-c Exception 3).

True or False - The Catch of an opponents fumble is a recovery...

FALSE

Is there a difference between a muff and a fumble....if so, what is it??

YES - a fumble is after possesssion is established.. A Muff - is without possession..ex. a player back to return a punt, has the ball bounce off his chest and hits the ground..he never possessed it, so its a muff..

B1 signals and does not touch a punt, but while the untouched ball is

loose in the field of play, he blocks an opponent 1) more than three

yards beyond the neutral zone or 2) in the receiver’s end zone. Are the blocks legal?

If not, what is the penalty?

RULING: 1) If the ball crosses the neutral zone and Team B has possession

when the down ends, Team B is penalized 15 yards from the postscrimmage

kick enforcement spot. 2) Safety. The ruling is the same on

an unsuccessful field goal attempt.

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I only missed two of this round!

Now I think we need a basketball thread, but I am too lazy to think up odd situations.

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I got 6 this time. Good stuff! Thanks again, P'cola.

BTW, I am looking into getting my HS football certification. I have been in contact with the high school officials association here and I'm trying to get a feel for my schedule before I commit. I don't want to overload myself with work, college classes, and officiating. I volunteered this past season with the down marker and chains and had a blast. It was good to get involved with football again.

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