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since so many of us complain about the officiating (I question my share).. I thought it would be fun, now that the season is over but still fresh to see how much we know.. I'm posting a page of questions here, and after a few days will post the answers(yes they are official answers, not my own..) Everybody post your answers to the following questions..How much do you know??

note, some have more than one correct answer

1. Team A has the ball on Team B’s five-yard line. Quarterback A11

rolls out and leaps from the one-yard line toward the goalline near

the sideline. The ball, while in possession of airborne A11, passes

directly over (without touching) the pylon.

a. That’s a touchdown.

b. The ball is spotted where it crossed the sideline.

2. Fourth and 17 for Team A from its own 13-yard line. A21’s punt

is high and short and hits the ground at Team A’s 23-yard line. After

the ball hits the ground, B22 gives a fair catch signal. B22 attempts

to recover the loose ball, but muffs it and it rolls into Team A’s end

zone, where B83 falls on it.

a. Team B scores a touchdown.

b. Team B scores a safety.

c. B22 has fouled; the penalty is enforced from the previous

spot.

d. B22 has fouled; the penalty is enforced using post-scrimmage

kick enforcement.

e. B22 has fouled; the penalty is enforced on the try.

f. B22 has fouled; the penalty is enforced on the succeeding

kickoff. Team A will kick off from its own 25-yard line.

g. B22 has fouled; the penalty is enforced from the spot of the

foul.

3. B41 catches a free kick and is advancing. He reaches Team B’s

30-yard line when he throws a forward pass in the direction of B32,

who is at Team B’s 40-yard line. The pass is incomplete.

a. The ball should be blown dead.

b. The ball remains live.

c. The play is treated as a fumble.

d. The play is treated as an incomplete forward pass.

e. Team B will begin a new series, second and 10 from its own

25-yard line.

f. Team B will begin a new series, first and 10 from its own 25-

yard line.

4. A81 attempts an onside kick from his own 35-yard line. A81

kicks the ball on the ground toward the sideline. As B52 moves to

recover the ball at Team A’s 42-yard line, he is blocked above the

waist and from the front by A43. The ball is recovered by A84.

a. Legal play; it’s Team A’s ball.

b. A43 is guilty of an illegal block.

c. The penalty is five yards.

d. The penalty is 10 yards.

e. The penalty is 15 yards.

5. Third and 13 from Team A’s 35-yard line. All Team A players are

set. While the quarterback is calling signals, defensive back B21,

starting from a position eight yards behind his line of scrimmage,

runs toward the neutral zone. B21 stops directly in front of tackle

A71 but does not enter the neutral zone. In response to B21’s

charge, A71 flinches.

a. Both teams have fouled.

b. A71 should be flagged for a false start.

c. B21 should be flagged for delay of game.

6. First and 10 at Team A’s 20-yard line. Quarterback A11 runs to

Team A’s 23-yard line, retreats to Team A’s 16-yard line and throws

a pass that is caught by eligible A82 at Team A’s 37-yard line.

a. Legal play.

b. A11 is guilty of an illegal forward pass.

c. The penalty is five yards from the previous spot and a loss of

down.

d. The penalty is five yards from the spot of the pass and a loss

of down.

e. The penalty is five yards from the previous spot but no loss of

down.

f. The penalty is five yards from the spot of the pass but no loss

of down.

7. First and 10 for Team A from its own 20-yard line. A11’s legal

forward pass is caught by A82 at Team A’s 33-yard line. B63 is

flagged for roughing the passer. A82 advances to Team A’s 45-yard

line and fumbles, but prone A84 recovers at the 50-yard line.

a. The penalty is declined by rule.

b. The penalty is enforced from the previous spot.

c. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 33-yard line.

d. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 45-yard line.

e. The penalty is enforced from the 50-yard line.

8. Which of the following statements is true regarding a passer?

a. Any Team A player may be a passer.

b. Only a Team A player numbered 1 to 49 or 80 to 99 inclusive

may be a passer.

c. A passer is a player who throws a forward or backward pass.

d. A passer is a player who throws a legal forward pass.

e. A passer is a player who throws any forward pass.

f. Any Team B player may legally throw a forward pass.

9. A21’s kick try is good. While the kick was in flight, B72 was

flagged for grabbing and twisting the facemask of guard A63.

a. Team A may replay the try after enforcement of the penalty.

b. Team A may decline the penalty and keep the point.

c. Team A may choose to have the penalty enforced from the

succeeding spot.

d. Team A has no choice; the penalty is declined by rule.

10. A loss of down is part of the penalty for which of the following

fouls?

a. Ineligible receiver downfield.

b. Offensive pass interference.

c. Illegal forward handling.

d. Planned loose ball play.

11. A41’s punt is in flight when it strikes an official, who is standing

about two yards deep in Team B’s end zone. The ball caroms off the

official, hits the ground on Team B’s two-yard line and rolls on the

ground inbounds between the goallines.

a. The ball should be ruled dead when it hits the official.

b. The ball remains live.

c. That’s a touchback.

d. If Team A recovers, it has downed the ball at that spot.

e. If Team A recovers, it will take over at that spot for a new

series.

f. If Team B recovers, the ball may be advanced.

12. A41 kicks off. The untouched kick is rolling inbounds toward

the sideline on Team B’s five-yard line. A46 legally blocks B21,

causing him to fall into the ball. The ball goes out of bounds on

Team B’s four-yard line.

a. Team A has fouled.

b. Team B has no choices; it will begin a new series at its own

four-yard line.

c. Team B may take the ball where it went out of bounds.

d. Team B may have Team A rekick with a five-yard penalty.

e. Team B may begin a new series after a five-yard penalty is

enforced the spot the ball went out of bounds.

f. Team B may take the ball 30 yards from Team A’s restraining

line.

13. Fourth and six on Team A’s 26-yard line. Before the ball is

kicked, A83 is flagged for holding at Team A’s 21-yard line. A11’s

punt is caught by B45 at Team B’s 40-yard line. B45 advances to

Team A’s 44-yard line. During B45’s run, B70 is flagged for holding

at Team B’s 45-yard line. As a result:

a. The fouls automatically offset; the down is replayed.

b. If Team B accepts offsetting fouls, the down will be replayed.

c. If Team B declines offsetting fouls, Team B will keep the ball.

d. If Team B declines offsetting fouls, Team A will keep the ball.

14. Fourth and six from Team A’s 10-yard line. A85 is flagged for

holding as punter A11 gets off his kick. B33 makes a fair catch at

the 50-yard line. After the whistle sounds, B57 is flagged for a

personal foul. As a result:

a. The fouls offset and the down is replayed.

b. Post-scrimmage kick enforcement applies.

c. If Team B accepts Team A’s penalty, Team A will retain

possession.

d. If Team B accepts Team A’s penalty, Team A has no option.

e. Team B can retain possession by declining Team A’s penalty.

15. Fourth and 11 for Team A on its own 43-yard line. Runner A26

is at the 50-yard line when he fumbles. It was B59’s hit that caused

the fumble, and the contact causes B59’s helmet to come

completely off his head.

a. The ball is declared dead when B59’s helmet comes off.

b. The ball remains live.

c. If a Team A player other than A26 recovers, the ball is dead.

d. The ball remains live regardless of who recovers it.

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Hehe, those are kind of obscure.

Lot of difference between those and A66 is on the ground and the play blown dead, B99 grabs A66 by the facemask and rips off the helmet and throws it across the field, as A66 is getting up B96 pushes A66 in the back.

I can see where calls like that get missed, but some of the cheap stuff that has been happening, like what happened to Reddick and to the Louisville player shouldn't go without being noticed. Mean both of those happened right where the ball was.

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Hehe, those are kind of obscure. 

Lot of difference between those and A66 is on the ground and the play blown dead, B99 grabs A66 by the facemask and rips off the helmet and throws it across the field, as A66 is getting up B96 pushes A66 in the back.

I can see where calls like that get missed, but some of the cheap stuff that has been happening, like what happened to Reddick and to the Louisville player shouldn't go without being noticed.  Mean both of those happened right where the ball was.

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not as obsure as you think. I've seen a little less than half of these happen in my 16 years that I officiated.. It can get downright crazy sometimes..

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I've no doubt its a rough gig, I have done some officiating for soccer for money in JR high and high school, continuation rule can be a real pain cause you have to determine advantage.

My real problem with today is that alot of cheap shots are happening right in front of officials and getting missed when they shouldn't. Someone's gonna get hurt and shouldn't, and there have been a ton of cheap shots this year unfortunatly.

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You report the situation to the referee and let the guy in the white hat make the call.

Good grief. That just showed me how little I know about the more obscure rules of football.

Now, if we want to discuss frontcourt/backcourt situations, false double fouls or tries for basket with under .4 left on the clock, I'm in!

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Looks like I will be the first to play. As long as I don't get fined for wrong answers.

1. a

2. a

3. a,f

4. a

5. b

6. b,c

7. e

8. a,e

9. a,b

10. b

11. b,d,f

12. b,c

13. a

14. c,e

15. a

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1. B

2. A

3. A/F

4. A

5. B

6. A

7. E

8. A/E

9. A/B

10. D

11. B/D/F

12. B

13. A

14. E

15. B

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Disclaimer, I am not a football official and these are my best guesses.

1. b. The ball is spotted where it crossed the sideline.

2. g. B22 has fouled; the penalty is enforced from the spot of the

foul.

3. a. The ball should be blown dead.

4. a. Legal play; it’s Team A’s ball.

5. b. A71 should be flagged for a false start.

6. b. A11 is guilty of an illegal forward pass.

c. The penalty is five yards from the previous spot and a loss of

down.

7. e. The penalty is enforced from the 50-yard line.

8. Which of the following statements is true regarding a passer?

b. Only a Team A player numbered 1 to 49 or 80 to 99 inclusive

may be a passer.

c. A passer is a player who throws a forward or backward pass.

d. A passer is a player who throws a legal forward pass.

9. c. Team A may choose to have the penalty enforced from the

succeeding spot.

10. a. Ineligible receiver downfield.

11. b. The ball remains live.

c. That’s a touchback.

12. c. Team B may take the ball where it went out of bounds.

f. Team B may take the ball 30 yards from Team A’s restraining

line.

13. b. If Team B accepts offsetting fouls, the down will be replayed.

c. If Team B declines offsetting fouls, Team B will keep the ball.

14. c. If Team B accepts Team A’s penalty, Team A will retain

possession.

15. b. The ball remains live.

d. The ball remains live regardless of who recovers it.

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Disclaimer, I am not a football official and these are my best guesses.

we all are every saturday from august - january....

I'll offer a hint, i mentioned that several of them have more than one answer....there is ONE question that has FOUR correct answers, meaning all those things happen...

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Here's my best guesses:

1.A

2.A

3.F

4. None of the above - I thought the ball had to go 10 yards OR team B would have had to touch it.

5.B

6.A

7.E

8.C

9.None of the above - grabbing & turning is a fifteen yard personal - kick off 15 yards closer (which personally I think is stupid because they just kick it into the scoreboard)

10.A,B,C.D

11.C

12.B

13.A

14.A

15.B,C

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OK, I'll take a stab at these......

1. a - pylon extends vertically into space

2. a - since the ball had hit the ground before it was fumbled, it does not count as a muff and the fair catch is null as well.

3. b, f - the play continues, but I thought the penalty for an illegal forward pass would be 10 yards not 5.

4. c - the ball only went 7 yards before it was thouched by a kicking team player, that's a 5 yard step off.

5. b - there is only a penalty for offsides if the defense entering the neutral zone causes the offensive player to move out of their stance.

6. a - if that's wrong, then officials ignore this call every week.

7. b - seemed the logical choice, don't know exactly why

8. a, c, d, e

9. c - i'm hoping that succeeding spot means on the kickoff.

10. c

11. c - if the official is part of the field, then the ball has hit in the ez

12. b

13. a

14. e - it's after the play so they can't offset.

15. b - I thought the NCAA had ruled "a", but I've seen lots of plays these past couple of years where they don't stop play when someone's helmet comes off, so I picked "b".

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Question about number 7.

7. First and 10 for Team A from its own 20-yard line. A11’s legal

forward pass is caught by A82 at Team A’s 33-yard line. B63 is

flagged for roughing the passer. A82 advances to Team A’s 45-yard

line and fumbles, but prone A84 recovers at the 50-yard line.

a. The penalty is declined by rule.

b. The penalty is enforced from the previous spot.

c. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 33-yard line.

d. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 45-yard line.

e. The penalty is enforced from the 50-yard line.

The correct answer is E. If this occured on 4th down, but everything else in the question remained the same, would it be D?

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Question about number 7.

7. First and 10 for Team A from its own 20-yard line. A11’s legal

forward pass is caught by A82 at Team A’s 33-yard line. B63 is

flagged for roughing the passer. A82 advances to Team A’s 45-yard

line and fumbles, but prone A84 recovers at the 50-yard line.

a. The penalty is declined by rule.

b. The penalty is enforced from the previous spot.

c. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 33-yard line.

d. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 45-yard line.

e. The penalty is enforced from the 50-yard line.

The correct answer is E.  If this occured on 4th down, but everything else in the question remained the same, would it be D?

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enforcement spot would still be from the end of the run/play...so down is illrevelant..besides the play went for a first down anyway, in this case..

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I think Jarhead has a point. If the ball is fumbled forward on 4th down and recovered by any member of the offensive team other than the fumbler, the ball is spotted at the point of the fumble. That is why Courtney Taylor's recovery of Aromashadu's fumble in Athens wasn't a touchdown. If Devin had recovered his own fumble, it would have been a TD.

On to my own questions: ( I scored 16/30)

Re #10: When did the rule change on offensive pass interference? For sure it was loss of down in '83 - almost cost us the uat game.

Re#15: I just watched a bowl game in which a player's helmet was knocked or pulled off during the play. According to the commentators (and the action) the ball is blown dead when this happens. Were they wrong?

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Here is my woeful attempt:

1 a

2 A

3 F

4 A

5 B

6 B and C

7 E

8 A and D

9 B and C

10 B

11 B and C

12 B

13 A

14 C and E

15 B

This reminds me of "the dream" in which I am about to walk into a accounting exam and I forgot to go to class. :puke:

WDE

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Question about number 7.

7. First and 10 for Team A from its own 20-yard line. A11’s legal

forward pass is caught by A82 at Team A’s 33-yard line. B63 is

flagged for roughing the passer. A82 advances to Team A’s 45-yard

line and fumbles, but prone A84 recovers at the 50-yard line.

a. The penalty is declined by rule.

b. The penalty is enforced from the previous spot.

c. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 33-yard line.

d. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 45-yard line.

e. The penalty is enforced from the 50-yard line.

The correct answer is E.  If this occured on 4th down, but everything else in the question remained the same, would it be D?

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enforcement spot would still be from the end of the run/play...so down is illrevelant..besides the play went for a first down anyway, in this case..

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I guess I'm confused here, though, basing my scenario on the Cox to Devin 4th and 10 in the UGA game, Devin fumbled into the endzone, Taylor recovered, but no TD, ball placed at the spot of the fumble, since on 4th down, the only player that can advance the fumble is the player that fumled. Was this just because it was a TD? Great message thread, by the way, pcola, kudos to you! :cheer:

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Question about number 7.

7. First and 10 for Team A from its own 20-yard line. A11’s legal

forward pass is caught by A82 at Team A’s 33-yard line. B63 is

flagged for roughing the passer. A82 advances to Team A’s 45-yard

line and fumbles, but prone A84 recovers at the 50-yard line.

a. The penalty is declined by rule.

b. The penalty is enforced from the previous spot.

c. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 33-yard line.

d. The penalty is enforced from Team A’s 45-yard line.

e. The penalty is enforced from the 50-yard line.

The correct answer is E.  If this occured on 4th down, but everything else in the question remained the same, would it be D?

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enforcement spot would still be from the end of the run/play...so down is illrevelant..besides the play went for a first down anyway, in this case..

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jarhead,

You are correct. After re-thinking this...if it had been fourth down, you are very likely correct. My response previously stems from my 16 years of high school offiiciating....in high school any player can recover and advance a fumble...that was my bad...

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I think Jarhead has a point.  If the ball is fumbled forward on 4th down and recovered by any member of the offensive team other than the fumbler, the ball is spotted at the point of the fumble.  That is why Courtney Taylor's recovery of Aromashadu's fumble in Athens wasn't a touchdown.  If Devin had recovered his own fumble, it would have been a TD.

On to my own questions:  ( I scored 16/30)

Re #10:  When did the rule change on offensive pass interference?  For sure it was loss of down in '83 - almost cost us the uat game.

Re#15:  I just watched a bowl game in which a player's helmet was knocked or pulled off during the play.  According to the commentators (and the action) the ball is blown dead when this happens.  Were they wrong?

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here is a summary on penalties that carry a loss of down.. I know offenisve pass interference is a loss of down in high school ball....not sure when it changed....

LOSS OF A DOWN

O R S A P

Illegal scrimmage kick [also loss of five yards] ..............................31* 6 3 10 85

Illegally handing ball forward [also loss of five yards]...................35* 7 1 6 92

Planned loose ball play [also loss of five yards].............................19* 7 1 7 92

Intentionally throwing backward pass out of

bounds [also loss of five yards] ............................................35* 7 2 1 93

Illegal forward pass by Team A [also loss of five yards] ...............35* 7 3 2 95

Intentionally grounding forward pass...............................................36* 7 3 2 95

Forward pass illegally touched by player out of bounds ..............16* 7 3 4 96

Illegally batting ball [also loss of 15 yards] (see exceptions)........31* 9 4 1 120

Illegally kicking ball [also loss of 15 yards] (see exceptions) .......31* 9 4 4 120

dead ball....only refers to the runner...

q. When a runner’s helmet comes completely off. The ball belongs to the

runner’s team at that spot.

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6 1/3 right! I'm qualified to officiate in the Sun Belt conference :big:

Great thread, P'cola. Bring some more!

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