Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 It was great day in Congressional testimony today for Jeff Sessions. Hr took off the gloves and stood his groung with some a-hole senators. I'm really proud of him. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/18/sessions-clashes-with-franken-over-russia-claim-give-me-break.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,851 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: It was great day in Congressional testimony today for Jeff Sessions. Hr took off the gloves and stood his groung with some a-hole senators. I'm really proud of him. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/18/sessions-clashes-with-franken-over-russia-claim-give-me-break.html Gets testy when caught in a lie, don't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 Just now, TexasTiger said: Gets testy when caught in a lie, don't he? He told no lies Franken...I mean Tex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,851 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Proud Tiger said: He told no lies Franken...I mean Tex They've all been caught in lies about Russia for some reason. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Proud Tiger said: He told no lies Franken...I mean Tex You are amazingly loyal and supportive in the face of overwhelming, damning evidence. Numerous lies have been told by Sessions, Trump children, Kushner, other surrogates and Trump himself, when it comes to Russian conversations. Will it add up to collusion or consequences? None here know, but there are lies in abundance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 hours ago, HVAU said: You are amazingly loyal and supportive in the face of overwhelming, damning evidence. Numerous lies have been told by Sessions, Trump children, Kushner, other surrogates and Trump himself, when it comes to Russian conversations. Will it add up to collusion or consequences? None here know, but there are lies in abundance. What lies has Sessions told? If you refer to the case with Franken awhile back any body would clearly see Sessions misunderstood the question. He later admitted such and corrected his answer. Did you even watch today's testimony. Sessions was very careful in answering the questions often for them to be repeated/clarified so that didn't happen again. Tell me anything he said today that is a lie. I know Jeff personally. He is an honorable man so it's not amazing that I like him. he almost got fired for doing the righ thing in excusing himself from any Russian investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 hours ago, TexasTiger said: They've all been caught in lies about Russia for some reason. Odd. We would all like to see the truth about the Russian stuff but doubtful we will considering the news about Mueller's involvement in Hillary's uranium deal and donations to the Clinton Foundation. He should now do the honorable thing and resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 On the Uranium One deal, I'm going to reserve my opinion until this latest round of information is well digested. The CFIUS had, if I recall correctly, eight separate, independent agencies involved in the approval of the sale. The sale involved a foreign company (Canadian) owning and operating mines in the US being sold to another foreign entity (Russian). So far, I've seen no connection to Mueller in any reputable sources. As regards the Clintons, all accounts indicating funding being funneled to the foundation show that it was done in an indirect manner. In other words, millions of dollars were paid to an American entity, that money was dispersed to various influential functionaries, the foundation being one. Does this mean the Clintons were knowingly accepting bribes? I don't know. It's certainly possible, but they are a very savvy political family, and I imagine if they were engaged in wrongdoing they structured it in a way in which they'd have plausible deniability. Back to the Trumps, unfortunately for them, they haven't been so savvy in their communications with the Russians, and they've been caught in many lies. On Sessions, I don't know him. I don't agree with him in his support of Trump, his stance on for profit prison, his adherence to an outdated mindset when it comes to the drug war, his actions regarding voter rights, his positive attitude on civil asset forfeiture, etc. He, unlike Trump, is political savvy enough to cover his lies in plausible deniability, which is exactly what occurred in the Franken exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Proud Tiger said: We would all like to see the truth about the Russian stuff but doubtful we will considering the news about Mueller's involvement in Hillary's uranium deal and donations to the Clinton Foundation. He should now do the honorable thing and resign. Can you provide a link to your references indicating Mueller benefited from the Uranium One deal? I'd like to see what connections you're referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,795 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 6 hours ago, TexasTiger said: Gets testy when caught in a lie, don't he? 4 hours ago, HVAU said: You are amazingly loyal and supportive in the face of overwhelming, damning evidence. Numerous lies have been told by Sessions, Trump children, Kushner, other surrogates and Trump himself, when it comes to Russian conversations. Will it add up to collusion or consequences? None here know, but there are lies in abundance. Dream on guys. Proud of Jeff for clashing with old Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, HVAU said: Can you provide a link to your references indicating Mueller benefited from the Uranium One deal? I'd like to see what connections you're referring to. I don't have an update link but it was all over the news last night following the release of new documents by the FBI. It first surfaced last August in the Assange stuff in this link: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/18/george-soros-transfers-18-billion-to-his-liberal-philanthropic-foundation.html But the newly released papers clearly show he was on a board that approved the sale and has had some questionable association with the Clinton Foundation. Maybe more wwill surface shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,795 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 hours ago, HVAU said: Numerous lies have been told by Sessions, Trump children, Kushner, other surrogates and Trump himself, when it comes to Russian conversations. Will it add up to collusion or consequences? None here know, but there are lies in abundance. What lies have been told. This is a statement. Need a link saying lie proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: I don't have an update link but it was all over the news last night following the release of new documents by the FBI. It first surfaced last August in the Assange stuff in this link: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/18/george-soros-transfers-18-billion-to-his-liberal-philanthropic-foundation.html But the newly released papers clearly show he was on a board that approved the sale and has had some questionable association with the Clinton Foundation. Maybe more wwill surface shortly. You mean one of these boards? Composition of CFIUS The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury. The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices: Department of the Treasury (chair) Department of Justice Department of Homeland Security Department of Commerce Department of Defense Department of State Department of Energy Office of the U.S. Trade Representative Office of Science & Technology Policy The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities: Office of Management & Budget Council of Economic Advisors National Security Council National Economic Council Homeland Security Council The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation. Source: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Pages/cfius-members.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,795 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, HVAU said: You mean one of these boards? Composition of CFIUS The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury. The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices: Department of the Treasury (chair) Department of Justice Department of Homeland Security Department of Commerce Department of Defense Department of State Department of Energy Office of the U.S. Trade Representative Office of Science & Technology Policy The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities: Office of Management & Budget Council of Economic Advisors National Security Council National Economic Council Homeland Security Council The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation. Source: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Pages/cfius-members.aspx Soros and Harvey on no board. They give money.......to hell with boards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, HVAU said: You mean one of these boards? Composition of CFIUS The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury. The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices: Department of the Treasury (chair) Department of Justice Department of Homeland Security Department of Commerce Department of Defense Department of State Department of Energy Office of the U.S. Trade Representative Office of Science & Technology Policy The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities: Office of Management & Budget Council of Economic Advisors National Security Council National Economic Council Homeland Security Council The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation. Source: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Pages/cfius-members.aspx I don't recall which board was being referred to but it some small board looking at the deal. As I say maybe more will surface soon but it seemed to be a big deal in the new last night resulting from the release yesterday of some FBI papers, the same ones showing Comey was working on writing his conclusions about the Hillary e-mail fiasco BEFORE the FBI even interviewed her. Anyhow I can't add anything else now. I had cataract surgery this morning so I have patch on one eye and the other is blurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: What lies have been told. This is a statement. Need a link saying lie proven. The Kush: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/politics/jared-kushner-russians-security-clearance.html After being caught in the lie: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341844-kushner-updated-disclosure-to-add-more-than-100-foreign-contacts The Kids: http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-testimony-chris-coons-statute-lying-congress-2017-9 A little help from their friends: https://www.salon.com/2017/10/16/from-russia-with-love-memo-tries-fails-to-exculpate-donald-trump-jr/ Real estate forays: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/4/16418766/ivanka-trump-donald-jr-indictment Sessions: His lies fall under the plausible deniability already discussed. Trump himself: Well I don't have the time to document all of his lies tonight, but I'm sure you can go to his Twitter feed anyone you like for quick run down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,795 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, HVAU said: The Kush: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/politics/jared-kushner-russians-security-clearance.html After being caught in the lie: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341844-kushner-updated-disclosure-to-add-more-than-100-foreign-contacts The Kids: http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-testimony-chris-coons-statute-lying-congress-2017-9 A little help from their friends: https://www.salon.com/2017/10/16/from-russia-with-love-memo-tries-fails-to-exculpate-donald-trump-jr/ Real estate forays: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/4/16418766/ivanka-trump-donald-jr-indictment Sessions: His lies fall under the plausible deniability already discussed. Trump himself: Well I don't have the time to document all of his lies tonight, but I'm sure you can go to his Twitter feed anyone you like for quick run down. I said proof HVAU. are you having a problem tonight? I do know how to Google articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: I don't recall which board was being referred to but it some small board looking at the deal. As I say maybe more will surface soon but it seemed to be a big deal in the new last night resulting from the release yesterday of some FBI papers, the same ones showing Comey was working on writing his conclusions about the Hillary e-mail fiasco BEFORE the FBI even interviewed her. Anyhow I can't add anything else now. I had cataract surgery this morning so I have patch on one eye and the other is blurry. I'm not denying that the kickbacks and bribes surrounding the Russian deal are a big deal. I've yet to see anything connecting Mueller in any significant fashion. The CFIUS, as stated before, is a large regulatory body. The transaction was multinational in that more than just mining properties in the US were being transferred, and the company being sold want even an American company. Any role played by Mueller was most likely minor. The Clintons may have played a more central role, but they would only be influencers, again, due to the number of agencies required to sign off on the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, SaltyTiger said: I said proof HVAU. are you having a problem tonight? I do know how to Google articles. Ok. Apparently you lack the ability to read them. Maybe I should have behaved like your beloved Donald. Let me try again... @HVAU I have tapes, very incriminating tapes, very bad, very bad, of the Trump adminstration telling lies, so sad, very, very sad. They better hope I don't decide to release them...it would be hugely, bigly bad for the Dishonest Trumps. #dishonesttrumps #magabagasackofturds #absurdtwitterpolitics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,851 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: I said proof HVAU. are you having a problem tonight? I do know how to Google articles. But don't know how to recognize a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,795 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, HVAU said: Ok. Apparently you lack the ability to read them. Maybe I should have behaved like your beloved Donald. Let me try again... @HVAU I have tapes, very incriminating tapes, very bad, very bad, of the Trump adminstration telling lies, so sad, very, very sad. They better hope I don't decide to release them...it would be hugely, bigly bad for the Dishonest Trumps. #dishonesttrumps #magabagasackofturds #absurdtwitterpolitics No Sir A$$clown, I have the ability to read, expected that response from you. I asked you to offer proof. Do you understand? You typed it. I do not have a "beloved Donald". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 You're ridiculous. Nobody here has proof of anything related to Obama, Clinton, Trump, Sessions, etc. They have what they've read and what they've heard. You're no different and your previous comments are simply a BS rhetorical device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,795 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: But don't know how to recognize a lie. Yes Tex, I do fish and talk with other fisherman daily...................... goodnite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 11 hours ago, HVAU said: I've yet to see anything connecting Mueller in any significant fashion. Here ya go. Maybe you still won't see it as significant. Time will tell but looks significant to me when a Special Counsel is supposed to be squeaky clean. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/18/gregg-jarrett-clinton-cover-up-brought-to-by-same-guys-who-are-investigating-trump.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVAU 673 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Proud Tiger said: Here ya go. Maybe you still won't see it as significant. Time will tell but looks significant to me when a Special Counsel is supposed to be squeaky clean. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/18/gregg-jarrett-clinton-cover-up-brought-to-by-same-guys-who-are-investigating-trump.html There is nothing other than Mueller, Rosenstein, et al deciding not to act on information. Your assumption that that decision was made nefariously is premature. From another perspective you could say that without the FBI, under Mueller's direction, investigating the matter none of this would be known even now. It can cut either way. The calls from the right for Mueller's resignation over this are probably just a play to protect Trump, someone who has as much Russian smoke swirling around him as do those involved in Uranium One bribery schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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