quietfan 233 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Who's been the closest to a true, ironclad, "lock down" corner we've had since #1st rounder Carlos Rogers in 2004? (I love the feeling of having a CB that can single-handed cover one entire side of the field, leaving us 10 guys to guard the rest! I also love a DB that will put a real hurtin' on every single opponent that comes his way...like the late, great David Langner!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VipersStrike1 230 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Who's been the closest to a true, ironclad, "lock down" corner we've had since #1st rounder Carlos Rogers in 2004? David Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson SG 88 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Probably Jerraud Powers. We have struggled at that position since Tubby left. Forgot about Irons as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 David Irons Nope. Jerraud Powers. 3rd round pick; still playing in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagleAU 0 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Nope. Jerraud Powers. 3rd round pick; still playing in the NFL. Yep. Coached by Muschamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VipersStrike1 230 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 David Irons Nope. Jerraud Powers. 3rd round pick; still playing in the NFL. Yup. Irons. Better College CB. No one beat Irons deep. Tho our boys played out of their minds, it was Powers who gave up the winning TD pass in Death Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yup. Irons. Better College CB. No one beat Irons deep. Tho our boys played out of their minds, it was Powers who gave up the winning TD pass in Death Valley. Irons held so much it wasn't even funny; that is why "no one beat him deep". Why do you think he had zero NFL career? Can't get away with that in the NFL. Jerraud Powers was the superior player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VipersStrike1 230 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yup. Irons. Better College CB. No one beat Irons deep. Tho our boys played out of their minds, it was Powers who gave up the winning TD pass in Death Valley. Irons held so much it wasn't even funny; that is why "no one beat him deep". Why do you think he had zero NFL career? Can't get away with that in the NFL. Jerraud Powers was the superior player. The OP was "Who's been the closest to a true, ironclad, "lock down" corner we've had since #1st rounder Carlos Rogers in 2004?" Translation: AUBURN CB, not NFL Final two seasons for each: Irons: 2 INTs + 23 PBU = 25 total passes defended Powers: 6 INTs + 12 PBU = 18 total passes defended Stats show Irons as the superior Corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalsinger418 88 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yup. Irons. Better College CB. No one beat Irons deep. Tho our boys played out of their minds, it was Powers who gave up the winning TD pass in Death Valley. Irons held so much it wasn't even funny; that is why "no one beat him deep". Why do you think he had zero NFL career? Can't get away with that in the NFL. Jerraud Powers was the superior player. The OP was "Who's been the closest to a true, ironclad, "lock down" corner we've had since #1st rounder Carlos Rogers in 2004?" Translation: AUBURN CB, not NFL Final two seasons for each: Irons: 2 INTs + 23 PBU = 25 total passes defended Powers: 6 INTs + 12 PBU = 18 total passes defended Stats show Irons as the superior Corner. Even though Powers had 3 times the interceptions :-\ He was also injured for most of his junior year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VipersStrike1 230 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yup. Irons. Better College CB. No one beat Irons deep. Tho our boys played out of their minds, it was Powers who gave up the winning TD pass in Death Valley. Irons held so much it wasn't even funny; that is why "no one beat him deep". Why do you think he had zero NFL career? Can't get away with that in the NFL. Jerraud Powers was the superior player. The OP was "Who's been the closest to a true, ironclad, "lock down" corner we've had since #1st rounder Carlos Rogers in 2004?" Translation: AUBURN CB, not NFL Final two seasons for each: Irons: 2 INTs + 23 PBU = 25 total passes defended Powers: 6 INTs + 12 PBU = 18 total passes defended Stats show Irons as the superior Corner. Even though Powers had 3 times the interceptions :-\ The 2004 Thorpe winner had just 2 that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalsinger418 88 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yup. Irons. Better College CB. No one beat Irons deep. Tho our boys played out of their minds, it was Powers who gave up the winning TD pass in Death Valley. Irons held so much it wasn't even funny; that is why "no one beat him deep". Why do you think he had zero NFL career? Can't get away with that in the NFL. Jerraud Powers was the superior player. The OP was "Who's been the closest to a true, ironclad, "lock down" corner we've had since #1st rounder Carlos Rogers in 2004?" Translation: AUBURN CB, not NFL Final two seasons for each: Irons: 2 INTs + 23 PBU = 25 total passes defended Powers: 6 INTs + 12 PBU = 18 total passes defended Stats show Irons as the superior Corner. Even though Powers had 3 times the interceptions :-\ The 2004 Thorpe winner had just 2 that season. Did Irons win the 2004 Thorpe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFDTiger80 790 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I'd them them to play like Carlos Rodgers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalsinger418 88 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I'd them them to play like Carlos Rodgers! ^^^ I like Davis' size. I wish there was more film of him playing CB instead of FS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksrc 4 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Lock down cbs can have less ints and pbu because no one will test them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb1633 1,418 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 They weren't all on the level of Rogers, Powers, or Irons, but I think these guys had QBs taking notes: Patrick Lee Jonathan Wilhite Walter McFadden *All coached by Muschamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VipersStrike1 230 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yup. Irons. Better College CB. No one beat Irons deep. Tho our boys played out of their minds, it was Powers who gave up the winning TD pass in Death Valley. Irons held so much it wasn't even funny; that is why "no one beat him deep". Why do you think he had zero NFL career? Can't get away with that in the NFL. Jerraud Powers was the superior player. The OP was "Who's been the closest to a true, ironclad, "lock down" corner we've had since #1st rounder Carlos Rogers in 2004?" Translation: AUBURN CB, not NFL Final two seasons for each: Irons: 2 INTs + 23 PBU = 25 total passes defended Powers: 6 INTs + 12 PBU = 18 total passes defended Stats show Irons as the superior Corner. Even though Powers had 3 times the interceptions :-\ The 2004 Thorpe winner had just 2 that season. Did Irons win the 2004 Thorpe? No. Powers did due to his 6 INTs over two seasons. Jonathan Jones and Jermaine Whitehead shared the 2014 Thorpe with 6 picks a piece...in *gasp* one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalsinger418 88 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 They weren't all on the level of Rogers, Powers, or Irons, but I think these guys had QBs taking notes: Patrick Lee Jonathan Wilhite Walter McFadden *All coached by Muschamp All pretty decent DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger1987 759 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 what are you talking about? 04 was rogers. and he's i believe the only one from AU to win it at least since i was born. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Thorpe_Award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Translation: AUBURN CB, not NFL The NFL evaluates based off of COLLEGE data. They evaluated Powers as a 3rd round talent based off of his play at AUBURN, and Irons as a 6th round talent. And its not as if Irons simply lacked NFL size or something because he was actually taller than Powers. The "stats" mean dick-all. For all you know Irons had more "passes defended" because he was thrown at more. Theoretically if you were so good that your man never got open against you and the QB therefore never threw the ball your way, you'd have zero "passes defended". I stand by what I said: Irons got away with so much extra-curricular activity that it made him look much better than he actually was. The NFL read him like a book, hence why he was drafted so low and couldn't stick in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalsinger418 88 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 what are you talking about? 04 was rogers. and he's i believe the only one from AU to win it at least since i was born. http://en.wikipedia....im_Thorpe_Award He was making an attempt to be sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger1987 759 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 ahhhh gotcha thanks Metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 meta, totally unfair to pretend like Irons was out of the NFL due to issues with holding. He had a few issues that all converged in the NFL and sunk his draft status. His primary issue is his struggle to apply his knowledge. David isn't a dumb guy, but he didn't qualify out of high school and scored a 4 on the Wonderlic. You don't have to blow the thing out of the water, but that's tough to overlook. On top of that, he had a season-ending injury his second year and never really bounced back. He was grabby, but he was good enough to play in the NFL. I completely agree that Powers was the better player between the two. I would also take the guy Pat Lee became. He took longer to develop, but his last year at Auburn (2007) was as good as anything we've seen at that position since Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VipersStrike1 230 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Translation: AUBURN CB, not NFL The NFL evaluates based off of COLLEGE data. They evaluated Powers as a 3rd round talent based off of his play at AUBURN, and Irons as a 6th round talent. And its not as if Irons simply lacked NFL size or something because he was actually taller than Powers. The "stats" mean dick-all. For all you know Irons had more "passes defended" because he was thrown at more. Theoretically if you were so good that your man never got open against you and the QB therefore never threw the ball your way, you'd have zero "passes defended". I stand by what I said: Irons got away with so much extra-curricular activity that it made him look much better than he actually was. The NFL read him like a book, hence why he was drafted so low and couldn't stick in the NFL. So Terrell Davis is the best RB to ever play at Georgia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,091 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Moving a few pages over from the Carlton thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,091 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Who's been the closest to a true, ironclad, "lock down" corner we've had since #1st rounder Carlos Rogers in 2004? (I love the feeling of having a CB that can single-handed cover one entire side of the field, leaving us 10 guys to guard the rest! I also love a DB that will put a real hurtin' on every single opponent that comes his way...like the late, great David Langner!) For future reference this would have been better asked in the football forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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