AUbritt 611 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 It's obvious Gus doesn't give a damn about the pressers lol it's pretty funny actually Agree. At this point i find them hilarious and wonder why anyone would read much into what he's saying to be honest. Just going through the emotions during them. But did you guys call him and talk to him? There's no question. But was it a collect call? Gus is one of the better people to call collect in all of college football, no doubt. Because he'd for sure accept the charges! He takes what the defense gives him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoALtiger 3,867 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Well I think Britt has it down for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,652 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Coaching at AU has got to be one of the greatest/worst jobs in college football just behind Alabama. Gus didn't prove a damn thing while he was here in 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2013 and 2014. He was just lucky I guess? Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,912 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Gus on QBs: "We'll take this thing week to week like we've been doing. We're starting to get good answers to the questions we needed" WTF? Ten passes? What could he possibly learn? That we are not a good passing team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Coaching at AU has got to be one of the greatest/worst jobs in college football just behind Alabama. Gus didn't prove a damn thing while he was here in 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2013 and 2014. He was just lucky I guess? Lmao Does the CEO of a big company get let off the hook when profits suffer because he/she used to make money? When you are paid millions, have the talent, tthe coaches, and the product isn't there, inquiring minds want to know. He knew full well what he was getting into and it's not just us and bama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUbritt 611 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Coaching at AU has got to be one of the greatest/worst jobs in college football just behind Alabama. Gus didn't prove a damn thing while he was here in 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2013 and 2014. He was just lucky I guess? Lmao Does the CEO of a big company get let off the hook when profits suffer because he/she used to make money? When you are paid millions, have the talent, tthe coaches, and the product isn't there, inquiring minds want to know. He knew full well what he was getting into and it's not just us and bama. I don't get the football coach/CEO analogy. If anything, Gus should be compared to a teacher -- an exhorbitantly paid teacher, yes; but a teacher nonetheless. He bears some responsibility for the performance of his pupils; but they have to do their parts, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdgeneration 6,469 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Yeah, he's not enjoying himself right now. It's almost as if he's had a highly touted qb lose his talent, his best player out for the season, his star receiver not give a rip, and the rest of the guys are not executing. He should be a little more upbeat, don't ya think? Have faith, people. We'll get it together...............hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdgeneration 6,469 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 And as a teacher, I love that analogy, Britt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUbritt 611 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 And as a teacher, I love that analogy, Britt. Seems more apt than CEO to me. Thanks for being a teacher, by the way! Very undervalued these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Coaching at AU has got to be one of the greatest/worst jobs in college football just behind Alabama. Gus didn't prove a damn thing while he was here in 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2013 and 2014. He was just lucky I guess? Lmao Yeah, but what has he done for us lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 And as a teacher, I love that analogy, Britt. Seems more apt than CEO to me. Thanks for being a teacher, by the way! Very undervalued these days. Yes, because as a head coach he spends most of his time teaching players, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I prefer the CEO analogy. Gus's challenge is to figure out the required needs for a championship season - both tangible and intangible - and then work like hell to ensure we meet those needs every year. If the problem is teaching (coaching) then he needs to hire the right teachers (coaches). (Hiring Muschamp was an excellent move.) Hopefully, he is identifying exactly what the differences are between his good teams and the bad ones. This requires experience, but he needs to be introspective, analytical and objective. He has set a high standard for himself which only increases the urgency. Nevertheless, I can forgive him for a bad season but I want to see some improvement - or at least change - as the season progresses. If he really is clueless, we are screwed, as it will get worse. War Eagle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I prefer the CEO analogy. Gus's challenge is to figure out the required needs for a championship season - both tangible and intangible - and then work like hell to ensure we meet those needs every year. If the problem is teaching (coaching) then he needs to hire the right teachers (coaches). (Hiring Muschamp was an excellent move.) Hopefully, he is identifying exactly what the differences are between his good teams and the bad ones. This requires experience, but he needs to be introspective, analytical and objective. He has set a high standard for himself which only increases the urgency. Nevertheless, I can forgive him for a bad season but I want to see some sort of progression - or at least change - as the season progresses. If he really is clueless, we are screwed as it will get worse. War Eagle! Agreed. The position coaches and Coordinators should be doing most of the player teaching/development. If Gus has to be involved in that too much, someone is having issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual-Threat Rigby 8,682 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Coaching at AU has got to be one of the greatest/worst jobs in college football just behind Alabama. Gus didn't prove a damn thing while he was here in 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2013 and 2014. He was just lucky I guess? Lmao I wouldn't use 2011 and 2014 as an example at all if you're trying to give positive points towards Malzahn's offensive ability....2014 definitely shouldn't be indicative of how Malzahn runs a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUbritt 611 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I prefer the CEO analogy. Gus's challenge is to figure out the required needs for a championship season - both tangible and intangible - and then work like hell to ensure we meet those needs every year. If the problem is teaching (coaching) then he needs to hire the right teachers (coaches). (Hiring Muschamp was an excellent move.) Hopefully, he is identifying exactly what the differences are between his good teams and the bad ones. This requires experience, but he needs to be introspective, analytical and objective. He has set a high standard for himself which only increases the urgency. Nevertheless, I can forgive him for a bad season but I want to see some sort of progression - or at least change - as the season progresses. If he really is clueless, we are screwed as it will get worse. War Eagle! Agreed. The position coaches and Coordinators should be doing most of the player teaching/development. If Gus has to be involved in that too much, someone is having issues. I don't know what Gus does on an hourly, day-to-day basis. But if a lot of it doesn't involve teaching, we're in trouble. I'm not suggesting that Gus needs to get down in the trenches with CRG and teach proper use of hands when rushing the QB, BTW. It's easy to dismiss what I'm saying if you think I mean that. I don't. Gus has to be half General, half teacher -- and frankly, a good General should also be a good teacher. Maybe a princpal is a better analogy; but they ought to be good teachers, too. The whole CEO thing is just off. The college president shouldn't be a CEO, either. Nor should the AD. They're employees at a university, not at a corporation. Do y'all consider yourselves shareholders in AU? Maybe this is part of the entitlement attitude I was referring to earlier ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FHeal 4 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Beat me to it.... Principal, Superintendent, or head cat herder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 At his salary he has to be whatever it takes to field a competitive team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimesAU 89 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Coaching at AU has got to be one of the greatest/worst jobs in college football just behind Alabama. Gus didn't prove a damn thing while he was here in 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2013 and 2014. He was just lucky I guess? Lmao I wouldn't use 2011 and 2014 as an example at all if you're trying to give positive points towards Malzahn's offensive ability....2014 definitely shouldn't be indicative of how Malzahn runs a team I was wondering why '11 and '14 were thrown in there. Diversity? Show the good with the bad? Nice job torpedoing your own argument, emt. And Gus is much more a CEO than teacher. His job is to ensure optimum performance from this team at all times. Right now our stock is in free fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I prefer the CEO analogy. Gus's challenge is to figure out the required needs for a championship season - both tangible and intangible - and then work like hell to ensure we meet those needs every year. If the problem is teaching (coaching) then he needs to hire the right teachers (coaches). (Hiring Muschamp was an excellent move.) Hopefully, he is identifying exactly what the differences are between his good teams and the bad ones. This requires experience, but he needs to be introspective, analytical and objective. He has set a high standard for himself which only increases the urgency. Nevertheless, I can forgive him for a bad season but I want to see some sort of progression - or at least change - as the season progresses. If he really is clueless, we are screwed as it will get worse. War Eagle! Agreed. The position coaches and Coordinators should be doing most of the player teaching/development. If Gus has to be involved in that too much, someone is having issues. I don't know what Gus does on an hourly, day-to-day basis. But if a lot of it doesn't involve teaching, we're in trouble. I'm not suggesting that Gus needs to get down in the trenches with CRG and teach proper use of hands when rushing the QB, BTW. It's easy to dismiss what I'm saying if you think I mean that. I don't. Gus has to be half General, half teacher -- and frankly, a good General should also be a good teacher. Maybe a princpal is a better analogy; but they ought to be good teachers, too. The whole CEO thing is just off. The college president shouldn't be a CEO, either. Nor should the AD. They're employees at a university, not at a corporation. Do y'all consider yourselves shareholders in AU? Maybe this is part of the entitlement attitude I was referring to earlier ...? Interesting....back in Chiz's day people complained about him meddling .....and now it seems that Gus is being criticized for not meddling. JMO but we have a bunch of coaches making $300K to over a million $$$....and if the reason for our problems is that Gus is not spending enough time "teaching" then things are even worse than most people understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I prefer the CEO analogy. Gus's challenge is to figure out the required needs for a championship season - both tangible and intangible - and then work like hell to ensure we meet those needs every year. If the problem is teaching (coaching) then he needs to hire the right teachers (coaches). (Hiring Muschamp was an excellent move.) Hopefully, he is identifying exactly what the differences are between his good teams and the bad ones. This requires experience, but he needs to be introspective, analytical and objective. He has set a high standard for himself which only increases the urgency. Nevertheless, I can forgive him for a bad season but I want to see some sort of progression - or at least change - as the season progresses. If he really is clueless, we are screwed as it will get worse. War Eagle! Agreed. The position coaches and Coordinators should be doing most of the player teaching/development. If Gus has to be involved in that too much, someone is having issues. I don't know what Gus does on an hourly, day-to-day basis. But if a lot of it doesn't involve teaching, we're in trouble. I'm not suggesting that Gus needs to get down in the trenches with CRG and teach proper use of hands when rushing the QB, BTW. It's easy to dismiss what I'm saying if you think I mean that. I don't. Gus has to be half General, half teacher -- and frankly, a good General should also be a good teacher. Maybe a princpal is a better analogy; but they ought to be good teachers, too. The whole CEO thing is just off. The college president shouldn't be a CEO, either. Nor should the AD. They're employees at a university, not at a corporation. Do y'all consider yourselves shareholders in AU? Maybe this is part of the entitlement attitude I was referring to earlier ...? You are taking this way too literally. He has a heck of a lot more in common with a ceo than a teacher. Honestly what difference does it make if someone wants to refer to him as a ceo? I'm done discussing it. It's a ceo to me. I demand entrance to the next shareholder meeting. I taught school btw and my principal rarely taught anyone anything, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimesAU 89 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I prefer the CEO analogy. Gus's challenge is to figure out the required needs for a championship season - both tangible and intangible - and then work like hell to ensure we meet those needs every year. If the problem is teaching (coaching) then he needs to hire the right teachers (coaches). (Hiring Muschamp was an excellent move.) Hopefully, he is identifying exactly what the differences are between his good teams and the bad ones. This requires experience, but he needs to be introspective, analytical and objective. He has set a high standard for himself which only increases the urgency. Nevertheless, I can forgive him for a bad season but I want to see some sort of progression - or at least change - as the season progresses. If he really is clueless, we are screwed as it will get worse. War Eagle! Agreed. The position coaches and Coordinators should be doing most of the player teaching/development. If Gus has to be involved in that too much, someone is having issues. I don't know what Gus does on an hourly, day-to-day basis. But if a lot of it doesn't involve teaching, we're in trouble. I'm not suggesting that Gus needs to get down in the trenches with CRG and teach proper use of hands when rushing the QB, BTW. It's easy to dismiss what I'm saying if you think I mean that. I don't. Gus has to be half General, half teacher -- and frankly, a good General should also be a good teacher. Maybe a princpal is a better analogy; but they ought to be good teachers, too. The whole CEO thing is just off. The college president shouldn't be a CEO, either. Nor should the AD. They're employees at a university, not at a corporation. Do y'all consider yourselves shareholders in AU? Maybe this is part of the entitlement attitude I was referring to earlier ...? With all due respect Britt (and I do mean that), this post is way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,926 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Interesting....back in Chiz's day people complained about him meddling .....and now it seems that Gus is being criticized for not meddling. JMO but we have a bunch of coaches making $300K to over a million $$$....and if the reason for our problems is that Gus is not spending enough time "teaching" then things are even worse than most people understand. +1AU pays assistants and coordinator salaries that are among the highest in college football. Those highly paid coaches are the people that "teach" and "develop" the talent on the team. Gus has way more important things to do than teach a player how to run a freakin route, block, tackle, or throw a damn football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,823 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 i think the posts bashing gus in interviews is about as stupid as you can get. why do coaches cover their mouths when discussing what to do? why would we let out opponents know who can play and who cannot based on injuries. remember earlier this year they said one of the teams knew our snap count? so why should he give away anything that might help whomever we play? i think some of yall are just piling on now. am i happy? no. have i given up? no. i will love my tigers with the last breath i draw. i am sure not gonna change teams or badmouth our players. i trust gus to make changes down the road if he deems it mandatory. i am still all in. no i am not a sunshine pumper but i am loyal to my school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I prefer the CEO analogy. Gus's challenge is to figure out the required needs for a championship season - both tangible and intangible - and then work like hell to ensure we meet those needs every year. If the problem is teaching (coaching) then he needs to hire the right teachers (coaches). (Hiring Muschamp was an excellent move.) Hopefully, he is identifying exactly what the differences are between his good teams and the bad ones. This requires experience, but he needs to be introspective, analytical and objective. He has set a high standard for himself which only increases the urgency. Nevertheless, I can forgive him for a bad season but I want to see some sort of progression - or at least change - as the season progresses. If he really is clueless, we are screwed as it will get worse. War Eagle! Agreed. The position coaches and Coordinators should be doing most of the player teaching/development. If Gus has to be involved in that too much, someone is having issues. I don't know what Gus does on an hourly, day-to-day basis. But if a lot of it doesn't involve teaching, we're in trouble. I'm not suggesting that Gus needs to get down in the trenches with CRG and teach proper use of hands when rushing the QB, BTW. It's easy to dismiss what I'm saying if you think I mean that. I don't. Gus has to be half General, half teacher -- and frankly, a good General should also be a good teacher. Maybe a princpal is a better analogy; but they ought to be good teachers, too. The whole CEO thing is just off. The college president shouldn't be a CEO, either. Nor should the AD. They're employees at a university, not at a corporation. Do y'all consider yourselves shareholders in AU? Maybe this is part of the entitlement attitude I was referring to earlier ...? Interesting....back in Chiz's day people complained about him meddling .....and now it seems that Gus is being criticized for not meddling. JMO but we have a bunch of coaches making $300K to over a million $$$....and if the reason for our problems is that Gus is not spending enough time "teaching" then things are even worse than most people understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I prefer the CEO analogy. Gus's challenge is to figure out the required needs for a championship season - both tangible and intangible - and then work like hell to ensure we meet those needs every year. If the problem is teaching (coaching) then he needs to hire the right teachers (coaches). (Hiring Muschamp was an excellent move.) Hopefully, he is identifying exactly what the differences are between his good teams and the bad ones. This requires experience, but he needs to be introspective, analytical and objective. He has set a high standard for himself which only increases the urgency. Nevertheless, I can forgive him for a bad season but I want to see some sort of progression - or at least change - as the season progresses. If he really is clueless, we are screwed as it will get worse. War Eagle! Agreed. The position coaches and Coordinators should be doing most of the player teaching/development. If Gus has to be involved in that too much, someone is having issues. I don't know what Gus does on an hourly, day-to-day basis. But if a lot of it doesn't involve teaching, we're in trouble. I'm not suggesting that Gus needs to get down in the trenches with CRG and teach proper use of hands when rushing the QB, BTW. It's easy to dismiss what I'm saying if you think I mean that. I don't. Gus has to be half General, half teacher -- and frankly, a good General should also be a good teacher. Maybe a princpal is a better analogy; but they ought to be good teachers, too. The whole CEO thing is just off. The college president shouldn't be a CEO, either. Nor should the AD. They're employees at a university, not at a corporation. Do y'all consider yourselves shareholders in AU? Maybe this is part of the entitlement attitude I was referring to earlier ...? Like it or not, the football program is a complex, multi-million dollar organization. Gus is responsible for planning, hiring, organization and establishing the overall culture. If the problem is within the system, it's Gus's job to fix it. This may take time. If the problem is that Gus is not spending as much time as he should "teaching", then he's not doing his real job. His teaching should be restricted to providing an example for establishing the culture. (This is exactly why the overly conservative play calling is problematic.) Everyone who supports Auburn's football program is a shareholder. Expecting to always win is perhaps excessive, but expecting to field a competitive product is not considering the investment we have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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