Cruz: I'm a Christian first, American Second

[AUFAN78 3,911]

You are correct. I cannot have an adult conversation with a pathetic liar.

Love your fallback position, your "experience". Outsourcing and tax avoidance are very import, very beneficial to the country. Thanks for your service. BTW, I thought you were leaving?

You used to try to add value to this forum. I miss that. I hope and pray that you will be able to overcome whatever is making you so bitter.

He's been adding value this entire thread. He just isn't getting a commensurate response.

That is an opinion. Yours. It is also the opinion of some here that Itch's pants are below his knees and his ass is showing. So where does that leave us? Same place as usual? Yep, that dreaded political divide. Go figure.

[Grumps 3,704]

You are correct. I cannot have an adult conversation with a pathetic liar.

Love your fallback position, your "experience". Outsourcing and tax avoidance are very import, very beneficial to the country. Thanks for your service. BTW, I thought you were leaving?

You used to try to add value to this forum. I miss that. I hope and pray that you will be able to overcome whatever is making you so bitter.

He's been adding value this entire thread. He just isn't getting a commensurate response.

You may be right, but it seems to me like he/she is trying hard NOT to find any truth or value to Japantiger's posts.

[TitanTiger 20,499]

You are correct. I cannot have an adult conversation with a pathetic liar.

Love your fallback position, your "experience". Outsourcing and tax avoidance are very import, very beneficial to the country. Thanks for your service. BTW, I thought you were leaving?

You used to try to add value to this forum. I miss that. I hope and pray that you will be able to overcome whatever is making you so bitter.

He's been adding value this entire thread. He just isn't getting a commensurate response.

You may be right, but it seems to me like he/she is trying hard NOT to find any truth or value to Japantiger's posts.

To me, it seems more like JT wants to argue on turf he's familiar with, regardless of whether it actually speaks to the bigger picture that ICHY is trying to point out.

[homersapien 11,392]

This thread started with Cruz and his religion.

Can anyone summarize the premise being discussed now?

[AUFAN78 3,911]

This thread started with Cruz and his religion.

Can anyone summarize the premise being discussed now?

[japantiger 4,051]

You are correct. I cannot have an adult conversation with a pathetic liar.

Love your fallback position, your "experience". Outsourcing and tax avoidance are very import, very beneficial to the country. Thanks for your service. BTW, I thought you were leaving?

and again, nice tantrum junior...please point out the lie? Be specific please. You say that word enough after posts surely you can point one out at least one... and by the way, I've added over 400 jobs to my businesses in the last year....all good middle class jobs....how many did you create?

I have posited that our current economic situation is the fault of our gov't trade and tax policies. We have fewer Americans working at any time since 1978, AGI is down 7 years in a row, corporate profits dropped a staggering 10% in Q4 and business formation is now upside down. These policies provide incentives for MNCS to relocate operations overseas or favor foreign capital spending over domestic. I also pointed out that this does nothing for the actual competitiveness of business...it merely provides short term profit opportunity that can fuel real growth elsewhere. I provided Treasury department reports to support the position. These reports point out that during this 20 year period, we have seen US MNCS shift 14% of their business mix overseas to where over 50% of their profits are realized overseas. On top of that, I offered real world examples of the dilema a business faces in this environment. I will be happy to show more examples, because they are the norm.

As a matter of policy we have been committing suicide because from our education system thru immigration policies thru fiscal and tax policies, we have ritually destroyed our manufacturing sector and all but menial service sector jobs that can't exploit the incentives....our entire middle class tax base is being killed.

Now you can rail at business for doing what business does, pursue profit, create jobs, etc....and you can try to create boogeymen and shake your fist at the wind.....but these boogeymen live down the street from you and coach your little league soccer, baseball and football teams and run the JCS and Lions Clubs and are your Church deacons and Sunday school teachers....and you can tilt at these windmills all you want... and in the end all you'll have is less domestic production fewer jobs, lower incomes and a fading nation....or, instead you can actually fix the incentive structure which will actually cause real change and growth.

I've provided my prescription in here multiple times... it starts with education, trade schools, investing in key technologies and infrastructure and reform the trade and tax policies that ****** all this up to begin with. Or, you can talk out of your ass about stuff you know nothing about and drop workers party platitudes from the last century and pretend it actually has any substance or means anything...because we know all about those great exapmles of how Socialist economic powerhouses changed the world for good and increased everyone's standard of living,...oh, wait, we don't know of any...good luck with that.

I guess you're just now finding out there is no participation trophy in life. If you confiscated 100% of those evil 1%'ers incomes annually, we would still be building deficits at current spending levels...much less at the additional confiscation Bernie has in mind..there is only one way out of this....grow the pie...

[cooltigger21 0]

You are correct. I cannot have an adult conversation with a pathetic liar.

Love your fallback position, your "experience". Outsourcing and tax avoidance are very import, very beneficial to the country. Thanks for your service. BTW, I thought you were leaving?

and again, nice tantrum junior...please point out the lie? Be specific please. You say that word enough after posts surely you can point one out at least one... and by the way, I've added over 400 jobs to my businesses in the last year....all good middle class jobs....how many did you create?

I have posited that our current economic situation is the fault of our gov't trade and tax policies. We have fewer Americans working at any time since 1978, AGI is down 7 years in a row, corporate profits dropped a staggering 10% in Q4 and business formation is now upside down. These policies provide incentives for MNCS to relocate operations overseas or favor foreign capital spending over domestic. I also pointed out that this does nothing for the actual competitiveness of business...it merely provides short term profit opportunity that can fuel real growth elsewhere. I provided Treasury department reports to support the position. These reports point out that during this 20 year period, we have seen US MNCS shift 14% of their business mix overseas to where over 50% of their profits are realized overseas. On top of that, I offered real world examples of the dilema a business faces in this environment. I will be happy to show more examples, because they are the norm.

As a matter of policy we have been committing suicide because from our education system thru immigration policies thru fiscal and tax policies, we have ritually destroyed our manufacturing sector and all but menial service sector jobs that can't exploit the incentives....our entire middle class tax base is being killed.

Now you can rail at business for doing what business does, pursue profit, create jobs, etc....and you can try to create boogeymen and shake your fist at the wind.....but these boogeymen live down the street from you and coach your little league soccer, baseball and football teams and run the JCS and Lions Clubs and are your Church deacons and Sunday school teachers....and you can tilt at all these windmills you want... and in the end all you'll have is less domestic production fewer jobs, lower incomes and a fading nation....or, instead you can actually fix the incentive structure which will actually cause real change and growth.

I've provided my prescription in here multiple times... it starts with education, trade schools, investing in key technologies and infrastructure and reform the trade and tax policies that ****** all this up to begin with. Or, you can talk out of your ass about stuff you know nothing about and drop workers party platitudes from the last century and pretend it actually has any substance or means anything...because we know all about those great exapmles of how Socialist economic powerhouses changed the world for good and increased everyone's standard of living,...oh, wait, we don't know of any...good luck with that.

I guess you're just now finding out there is no participation trophy in life. If you confiscated 100% of those evil 1%'ers incomes annually, we would still be building deficits at current spending levels...much less at the additional confiscation Bernie has in mind..there is only one way out of this....grow the pie...

Funnynhow that simple ideas fails to sink in. The problem we hqve isn't what the rich are or aren't paying. The problem is we're dangerously close to having more people riding in the wagon than we have pulling the wagon. We need to create more taxpayers.

[icanthearyou 4,463]

"there is only one way out of this....grow the pie"

You are learning, I suppose. Now, think about that statement and, who really influences trade policy and on what scale. Think about motives.

If you are going to condemn this country to a future of decline and, threaten to leave, you should at least have a clear understanding of the reason.

[TitanTiger 20,499]

"there is only one way out of this....grow the pie"

Well, that and stop letting the top 0.1% take 90% of the additional pie.