NolaAuTiger 3,295 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: You want to talk regulatory matters, finance, etc? Show me any statements by the POTUS that indicates he has an understanding of such things. since you asked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,897 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: Trump lacks the intelligence, empathy, and wisdom it takes to be a great leader. He lacks the inability to explain policy or even communicate coherently. His limited knowledge results in phrases like “everyone knows” “a lot of people are saying” “we’re going to take care of...” His election was like hiring your plumber to perform your open heart surgery. Let me refresh your memory. You stated “I think people who voted for Trump are jackasses.” I asked why? You failed to address the question specifically. Care to try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 14 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: You want to talk regulatory matters, finance, etc? Show me any statements by the POTUS that indicates he has an understanding of such things. Here is a good example of his financial capability.......cutting the cost Obama was going to pay to have Boeing replace the current AF Ones by $1.4B http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/27/trump-strikes-deal-with-boeing-for-new-air-force-one-planes.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savorytiger 182 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: Here is a good example of his financial capability.......cutting the cost Obama was going to pay to have Boeing replace the current AF Ones by $1.4B http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/27/trump-strikes-deal-with-boeing-for-new-air-force-one-planes.html Against my usual instincts I clicked on the link, and even the article mentions that the original estimate of the contract was $3B, Trump claimed at some point it had reached $4B, and then after the "deal" (article calls it "informal") they now say it's worth $5B. It's all too handwavy for me, and I wouldn't mind learning some details about the deal. If they took out some unnecessary additions to the planes, then that's a good thing. If something else was promised to Boeing, then we judge based on what was promised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japantiger 4,051 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 14 hours ago, NolaAuTiger said: You truly are delusional if you think Trump defrauded and cheated people throughout his business ventures. What say you about the Grand Hyatt Hotel, which at the time of his purchase, had fallen to utter despair? Six years after construction, it was up and running - a goldmine venture for 40 years and running. Or what about the $3M renovation of Wollman Rink, a project he finished on time and nearly $1M under budget? Perhaps we can talk about 40 Wall Street, which he bought and renovated for a total of $36M, and today its worth exceeds HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. These are just a few of his ventures. Do you have a shred of knowledge about what goes into such complex transactions? Do you have any idea how many moving parts there truly are - even in the purchase alone? You cannot honestly maintain such an arrogant assertion. Yes, he filed bankruptcy multiple times, which a customary in business practice utilized to cover one's own ass, so don't erroneously contextualize it. He doesn't have to release his tax returns, and the opinions that flow therefrom will always be just that - opinions. You lack a fundamental understanding of what CIC entails. Obama executive orders were shut down by SCOTUS and lower courts (due to being beyond constitutional and statutory limits) at an unprecedented rate - executive amnesty, school gender identity restrooms mandate, appointing without confirmation, delayed carbon regs, searching cellphones, judicial setbacks re funding Obamacare subsidies, water regs, etc. Does this mean Obama didn't understand the very things he was doing in his capacity as Executive? I'll let you answer that in light of the standard you applied for Trump. And you would you like to see financial statements from the inter web (EDGAR) or literal statements (hehehehe, but then again you probably have no clue what EDGAR is)? Nola...just remember, he is still President and they just can't get over it....and they still haven't been right about one thing regarding this President...not one....you'd think the law of averages would come into play at some point...but no....every.... single.... time.... they've been wrong. Seriously deficient in pattern recognition skills. I love these long threads where its one tantrum after another....keep it up.!!!!..the best thing they can do for America is keep showing who they really are.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Trump hasn't directed NSA chief to strike back at Russian hackers ..... Russian hackers are currently targeting the U.S. election system — and President Donald Trump hasn't formally asked the NSA how to stop it, agency head Adm. Mike Rogers told lawmakers on Tuesday. "Nobody’s … directly asked me," Rogers said during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing. "I've certainly provided my opinion in ongoing discussions." It's the second time this month that the government's leading intelligence officials have confirmed the White House has yet to specifically order them to combat the types of Russian cyberattacks and disinformation campaigns that rattled the 2016 elections. Intelligence agencies have accused the Kremlin of targeting at least 21 states' election systems during the 2016 race, as well as hacking into the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton's campaign. And last week, special counsel Robert Mueller indicted over a dozen Russians for spreading disinformation in the U.S. during the election with the intent of helping Trump win the White House. National security officials have regularly warned that these Moscow-directed online meddlers will be back during the 2018 midterm elections, but Congress has yet to pass specific legislation to address the issue. The Trump administration has also taken heat from Democrats and digital security specialists for not leading the charge to bolster the digital defenses protecting the country's voting networks. These criticisms jumped into the spotlight earlier this month during a Senate hearing when the heads of the FBI, NSA and CIA, as well as the director of national intelligence, told lawmakers that Trump had not specifically ordered them to fight back against Russia's election meddling. Rogers resurrected this narrative on Tuesday when he both confirmed that Russian hackers are presently targeting American election networks, and reiterated that he had not been asked for a formal assessment of how to thwart the attacks. "Yes, sir," he told Rhode Island Sen. Jack Reed, the committee's top Democrat, who asked him whether Moscow was actively going after U.S. election systems. Rogers added that he has provided his opinion on stopping these attacks but hasn't, for example, "put anything into writing." Rogers also told the panel he had not been tasked by anyone in the administration to try to stop the Russian hacks at their point of origin. "We could be tasked to do that," Rogers said. "It depends on the specifics. I don’t want to over-promise." Pressed by Reed about whether such an operation is legal and could be undertaken, Rogers replied: "Yes." Rogers' comments echoed ones he, and the other intelligence leaders, made earlier this month to the Senate Intelligence Committee. “I can’t say I’ve been specifically directed to blunt or actually stop" Russian election influence efforts, Rogers said at the time. At Tuesday's hearing, Rogers argued that Moscow hadn't backed away from its digital assault on American elections because "they haven’t paid a price ... that is sufficient to get them to change their behavior." "It hasn’t changed the calculus, is my sense," he added. The NSA chief — who was likely making his final Capitol Hill appearance before his pending retirement — emphasized that America's cyber retaliation against Moscow should fit in to a "broader" response to the Kremlin's disruptive online efforts. After the hearing, Reed said on CNN that Trump's failure to direct the NSA and other intelligence agencies on Russian hacking "represents an abdication of his responsibilities." Trump, Reed added, "is so preoccupied with trying to distance himself from the 2016 election ... that he refuses to recognize the facts as they are today." https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/27/trump-russia-hackers-nsa-response-368241?lo=ap_c1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japantiger 4,051 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 So let me see....doesn't the NSA chief work for Defense (Mattis)? and FBI, Sessions? Aren't they the ones that would be giving subordinates their marching orders? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 23 hours ago, Proud Tiger said: I didn't hate Obama. I don't hate anybody. I may not like someone but I don't hate them. Here is an example of someone I really don't like. http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/02/26/maxine-waters-tells-democrats-get-ready-impeachment-president-trump Mid terms will be interesting but I will predict now you are going to be very disappointed in Mueller's findings re. collusion. I predict that there will be a Blue Wave at midterms and suddenly the GOP will magically start believing Russians interfere in elections. That will be their excuse for historic losses. And before you go predicting my disappointment in findings regarding collusion, you might want to read the latest on Roger Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 22 hours ago, NolaAuTiger said: since you asked... Can’t do it can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 7:57 PM, NolaAuTiger said: You truly are delusional if you think Trump defrauded and cheated people throughout his business ventures. What say you about the Grand Hyatt Hotel, which at the time of his purchase, had fallen to utter despair? Six years after construction, it was up and running - a goldmine venture for 40 years and running. Or what about the $3M renovation of Wollman Rink, a project he finished on time and nearly $1M under budget? Perhaps we can talk about 40 Wall Street, which he bought and renovated for a total of $36M, and today its worth exceeds HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. These are just a few of his ventures. Do you have a shred of knowledge about what goes into such complex transactions? Do you have any idea how many moving parts there truly are - even in the purchase alone? You cannot honestly maintain such an arrogant assertion. Yes, he filed bankruptcy multiple times, which a customary in business practice utilized to cover one's own ass, so don't erroneously contextualize it. He doesn't have to release his tax returns, and the opinions that flow therefrom will always be just that - opinions. You lack a fundamental understanding of what CIC entails. Obama executive orders were shut down by SCOTUS and lower courts (due to being beyond constitutional and statutory limits) at an unprecedented rate - executive amnesty, school gender identity restrooms mandate, appointing without confirmation, delayed carbon regs, searching cellphones, judicial setbacks re funding Obamacare subsidies, water regs, etc. Does this mean Obama didn't understand the very things he was doing in his capacity as Executive? I'll let you answer that in light of the standard you applied for Trump. And you would you like to see financial statements from the inter web (EDGAR) or literal statements (hehehehe, but then again you probably have no clue what EDGAR is)? The time Trump defrauded college students: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/31/522199535/judge-approves-25-million-settlement-of-trump-university-lawsuit Trump defrauding workers on his casinos: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/ And Trump’s business failures: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/donald-trumps-13-biggest-business-failures-20160314 But keep telling yourself he is great. You can live a delusion if you want. No skin off my nose. Trump is a poor man’s idea of a rich man, a stupid man’s idea of a smart man, and a weak man’s idea of a strong man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 hours ago, japantiger said: So let me see....doesn't the NSA chief work for Defense (Mattis)? and FBI, Sessions? Aren't they the ones that would be giving subordinates their marching orders? I I'm unsure of your point. I figure he's talking about an offensive cyber action - such as a retaliatory or preemptive attack. I assume that would require presidential approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 8:08 PM, SaltyTiger said: Wrong Elle. You hate President Trump. We only hated President Obama's ideology and agenda.......remember, "transform America". The man does not like America as founded. President Trump obviously loves this country. Then please explain to me why a man who loved this country has done nothing about a foreign hostile power attacking our elections? You guys are like the abused wife who claims her husband loves her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,808 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said: Then please explain to me why a man who loved this country has done nothing about a foreign hostile power attacking our elections? You guys are like the abused wife who claims her husband loves her. Why didn't some of or past presidents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: Why didn't some of or past presidents? Mitch McConnell https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/mitch-mcconnell-russia-obama-joe-biden-359531 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 @NolaAuTiger @Proud Tiger @Salty Tiger I’m sure you’ll want to help those innocent Trump team members who are experiencing financial strains from the Russian hoax investigation. If you can’t send money, I’m certain thoughts and prayers will work just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,808 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Biden: McConnell stopped Obama from calling out Russians Headline evidence of weak leadership. get real Sister Elle, we try to interfere with Russia and vice versa. Stuff goes way past Barry.....Been nice to have had someone like President Trump in office when General Patton wanted go ahead take care of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,808 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said: @NolaAuTiger @Proud Tiger @Salty Tiger I’m sure you’ll want to help those innocent Trump team members who are experiencing financial strains from the Russian hoax investigation. If you can’t send money, I’m certain thoughts and prayers will work just fine. Maddow Blog? I heard it is official that the Chattahoochee is about to start running north Elle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 58 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: Why didn't some of or past presidents? That's evasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 40 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: Biden: McConnell stopped Obama from calling out Russians Headline evidence of weak leadership. get real Sister Elle, we try to interfere with Russia and vice versa. Stuff goes way past Barry.....Been nice to have had someone like President Trump in office when General Patton wanted go ahead take care of them. Good grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,808 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, homersapien said: Good grief. Do you think General Patton was wrong Homer? From what I understand he realized Russia was a coming threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,808 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, homersapien said: That's evasion. How Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 28 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: How Whatever "some of our past presidents" have done by ignoring a national threat has nothing to do with the current fact of Trump doing so. Ergo, a diversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,808 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, homersapien said: Whatever "some of our past presidents" have done by ignoring a national threat has nothing to do with the current fact of Trump doing so. Ergo, a diversion. What would you suggest President Trump do with Russia Brother Homer? I do like like the peace through strength attitude he portrays. Do bother posting numerous BS articles regarding our service people being anti-Trump. you have wasted to much time on this Russia/Trump non-sense. PT, Nola, Jap, me of course, beginning to get a little concerned about your obsession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,876 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 7 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: What would you suggest President Trump do with Russia Brother Homer? I do like like the peace through strength attitude he portrays. Do bother posting numerous BS articles regarding our service people being anti-Trump. you have wasted to much time on this Russia/Trump non-sense. PT, Nola, Jap, me of course, beginning to get a little concerned about your obsession. The so-called conservatives on this site don’t care. Their only principles are trying to irrritate “libbies” and keeping non-white foreigners out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 9 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: Do you think General Patton was wrong Homer? From what I understand he realized Russia was a coming threat. And yet Trump is smitten with Putin. All it took for Russia to own Trump was flattery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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