Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Welp, looks like Democrats will control Congress and the WH for the next two years. Few things I find fascinating: 1) Joe Manchin may now be the single biggest ally that Republicans have in Congress. 2) Does Schumer spend year 1 working on administration priorities and year 2 pushing through as many judges as possible to try and balance lower courts out some? 3) Does the Republican party see Trump as a losing strategy moving forward? It's become pretty clear that if Trump isn't directly on the ballot, his supporters don't show up in the same numbers. 2018 midterms and last night could be enough for many Republicans to start running away from him. Also, where's ole Mikey at? Dude told me for months that "Pubbies" (his word, not mine) would dominate the election cycle. Would love to hear more of his predictions so that I know what to bet against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,423 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Brad_ATX said: Welp, looks like Democrats will control Congress and the WH for the next two years. Few things I find fascinating: 1) Joe Manchin may now be the single biggest ally that Republicans have in Congress. 2) Does Schumer spend year 1 working on administration priorities and year 2 pushing through as many judges as possible to try and balance lower courts out some? 3) Does the Republican party see Trump as a losing strategy moving forward? It's become pretty clear that if Trump isn't directly on the ballot, his supporters don't show up in the same numbers. 2018 midterms and last night could be enough for many Republicans to start running away from him. Also, where's ole Mikey at? Dude told me for months that "Pubbies" (his word, not mine) would dominate the election cycle. Would love to hear more of his predictions so that I know what to bet against. Question #3 is the one that fascinates me the most. Dividing the Republican Party is the most valuable thing Trump accomplished. Trump’s devastation of the Republican Party is nearly complete Opinion by Karen Tumulty Columnist Jan. 6, 2021 at 10:23 a.m. EST It is time for Republicans to face an uncomfortable but increasingly obvious truth. President Trump is just not that into you. He never has been. To Trump, the party of Lincoln was a rental vehicle, one that he took for a joyride and is getting ready to turn back in, with trash jammed under the seats and stains covering the upholstery. Also, the tank is empty, and there’s a crack in the windshield. Democrat Raphael Warnock has won his Senate race in Georgia, defeating Republican Kelly Loeffler, a billionaire who had reinvented herself as a Trumpist, right down to the trucker cap that she started wearing atop her expensively styled blond locks. If Democrat Jon Ossoff’s lead over David Perdue, whose Senate term expired Sunday, holds up in the remaining Georgia Senate race, Republicans will have managed to lose the presidency, the House and the Senate during Trump’s four years in office. Quite the trifecta. What is even worse, both for democracy and for the long-term well-being of the party itself, is that Republicans have lost any legitimate claim that they stand for constitutional principles and conservative values. We will see the most incontrovertible evidence of this on Wednesday, as GOP members of the House and Senate, at Trump’s bidding, wage a futile and deeply undemocratic effort to overturn the results of a presidential election that wasn’t even close. What is normally a rote procedure to certify the results of the electoral college will be challenged by a shockingly large number of GOP foot soldiers, with Vice President Pence in the hot seat. And why are Republicans doing this? The more weak-kneed among them might be afraid of an unkind tweet from the president; others, of a possible primary challenge. And still others — I’m looking at you, Sens. Ted Cruz (Tex.) and Josh Hawley (Mo.) — because of craven opportunism. As my colleague David Von Drehle pointed out, they are positioning themselves for 2024 presidential bids and are betting on the dubious proposition that Trumpism is “a philosophical torch that can be passed from one runner to the next.” As a large number of Republicans vote to undermine democracy inside the Capitol, the streets of Washington will be thronged with Trump supporters. The MAGA crowds might or might not actually believe their leader’s claims that the election was stolen, but they are willing to do whatever he asks of them. Trump has not been subtle in his suggestion that violence might be in order. “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” he tweeted last month. “Be there, will be wild!” Watching Trump’s performance since his election loss — and especially the chaos he has sown in the past few weeks, as things went down to the wire in Georgia — it seems fair to ask whether he even wanted Republicans to win there. Because if Perdue and Loeffler had carried the state and he had lost it, that would have exposed exactly how hollow were his claims of election fraud. Trump’s obsession with Georgia is such that the president placed no fewer than 18 calls to its secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, before finally reaching him. (His incompetence is such that he was dialing the press office, where interns answered and hung up, assuming that it was a prank.) The transcript of his hour-long diatribe on the phone with Raffensperger, as reported in a blockbuster story by The Post’s Amy Gardner, underscored another fixation on Trump’s part: Stacey Abrams, who after being narrowly defeated in Georgia’s gubernatorial race in 2018 took the lessons from the loss and built a Democratic voter-mobilization program that will be studied — and emulated — for years to come. “Stacey Abrams is laughing about you,” Trump fumed. “She’s going around saying these guys are dumber than a rock. What she’s done to this party is unbelievable, I tell you.” When the president says things like that to other people, we have learned, he is projecting what he knows to be the case about himself. And if there is anything that he cannot abide, it is the idea that a woman — or an African American, and Abrams is both — might be mocking him. It parallels the narrative, embraced by many close to Trump, that his decision to run for president in the first place was set in motion after then-President Barack Obama made fun of him at the 2011 White House correspondents’ dinner. Since he has been president, nothing has unsettled him more than the contempt of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). Republicans knew what he was when they made the bargain they did, transforming themselves from a party that claimed to stand for conservative values to one that was willing to become whatever Trump demanded it to be. It got some judges and some tax cuts along the way. But this fealty was never going to be a mutual one. The GOP is of no use to Trump anymore — except as a target for blame and recrimination. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/06/trumps-devastation-republican-party-is-nearly-complete/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,660 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Question 4. Will the blue balls create a new Banana Republic in 18 months 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,423 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, autigeremt said: Question 4. Will the blue balls create a new Banana Republic in 18 months 😂 Well gee, we've already got mobs of thugs invading our capital buildings, so I'd say we're pretty much there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,660 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, homersapien said: Well gee, we've already got mobs of thugs invading our capital buildings, so I'd say we're pretty much there already. Well gee, we already have cities destroyed in socialist held territories where the policy of the day is doom and gloom so I’d say it will be an easy transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,423 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, autigeremt said: Well gee, we already have cities destroyed in socialist held territories where the policy of the day is doom and gloom so I’d say it will be an easy transformation. "Socialist held territories"? 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,438 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 16 hours ago, homersapien said: Question #3 is the one that fascinates me the most. Dividing the Republican Party is the most valuable thing Trump accomplished. Trump’s devastation of the Republican Party is nearly complete Opinion by Karen Tumulty Columnist Jan. 6, 2021 at 10:23 a.m. EST It is time for Republicans to face an uncomfortable but increasingly obvious truth. President Trump is just not that into you. He never has been. To Trump, the party of Lincoln was a rental vehicle, one that he took for a joyride and is getting ready to turn back in, with trash jammed under the seats and stains covering the upholstery. Also, the tank is empty, and there’s a crack in the windshield. Democrat Raphael Warnock has won his Senate race in Georgia, defeating Republican Kelly Loeffler, a billionaire who had reinvented herself as a Trumpist, right down to the trucker cap that she started wearing atop her expensively styled blond locks. If Democrat Jon Ossoff’s lead over David Perdue, whose Senate term expired Sunday, holds up in the remaining Georgia Senate race, Republicans will have managed to lose the presidency, the House and the Senate during Trump’s four years in office. Quite the trifecta. What is even worse, both for democracy and for the long-term well-being of the party itself, is that Republicans have lost any legitimate claim that they stand for constitutional principles and conservative values. We will see the most incontrovertible evidence of this on Wednesday, as GOP members of the House and Senate, at Trump’s bidding, wage a futile and deeply undemocratic effort to overturn the results of a presidential election that wasn’t even close. What is normally a rote procedure to certify the results of the electoral college will be challenged by a shockingly large number of GOP foot soldiers, with Vice President Pence in the hot seat. And why are Republicans doing this? The more weak-kneed among them might be afraid of an unkind tweet from the president; others, of a possible primary challenge. And still others — I’m looking at you, Sens. Ted Cruz (Tex.) and Josh Hawley (Mo.) — because of craven opportunism. As my colleague David Von Drehle pointed out, they are positioning themselves for 2024 presidential bids and are betting on the dubious proposition that Trumpism is “a philosophical torch that can be passed from one runner to the next.” As a large number of Republicans vote to undermine democracy inside the Capitol, the streets of Washington will be thronged with Trump supporters. The MAGA crowds might or might not actually believe their leader’s claims that the election was stolen, but they are willing to do whatever he asks of them. Trump has not been subtle in his suggestion that violence might be in order. “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” he tweeted last month. “Be there, will be wild!” Watching Trump’s performance since his election loss — and especially the chaos he has sown in the past few weeks, as things went down to the wire in Georgia — it seems fair to ask whether he even wanted Republicans to win there. Because if Perdue and Loeffler had carried the state and he had lost it, that would have exposed exactly how hollow were his claims of election fraud. Trump’s obsession with Georgia is such that the president placed no fewer than 18 calls to its secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, before finally reaching him. (His incompetence is such that he was dialing the press office, where interns answered and hung up, assuming that it was a prank.) The transcript of his hour-long diatribe on the phone with Raffensperger, as reported in a blockbuster story by The Post’s Amy Gardner, underscored another fixation on Trump’s part: Stacey Abrams, who after being narrowly defeated in Georgia’s gubernatorial race in 2018 took the lessons from the loss and built a Democratic voter-mobilization program that will be studied — and emulated — for years to come. “Stacey Abrams is laughing about you,” Trump fumed. “She’s going around saying these guys are dumber than a rock. What she’s done to this party is unbelievable, I tell you.” When the president says things like that to other people, we have learned, he is projecting what he knows to be the case about himself. And if there is anything that he cannot abide, it is the idea that a woman — or an African American, and Abrams is both — might be mocking him. It parallels the narrative, embraced by many close to Trump, that his decision to run for president in the first place was set in motion after then-President Barack Obama made fun of him at the 2011 White House correspondents’ dinner. Since he has been president, nothing has unsettled him more than the contempt of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). Republicans knew what he was when they made the bargain they did, transforming themselves from a party that claimed to stand for conservative values to one that was willing to become whatever Trump demanded it to be. It got some judges and some tax cuts along the way. But this fealty was never going to be a mutual one. The GOP is of no use to Trump anymore — except as a target for blame and recrimination. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/06/trumps-devastation-republican-party-is-nearly-complete/ Dividing the parties is ALWAYS a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,660 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 16 hours ago, DKW 86 said: Dividing the parties is ALWAYS a good thing. Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,660 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 20 hours ago, homersapien said: "Socialist held territories"? 😂😂 I knew you’d love that one! Of course there’s always Portland lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,164 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 16 hours ago, DKW 86 said: Dividing the parties is ALWAYS a good thing. Dems are always divided. Big tent and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,660 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, AUDub said: Dems are always divided. Big tent and all that. Yep. It’s red with yellow trim and a big yellow star ⭐️ in the middle 😂lol couldn’t help my horrible self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,423 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/7/2021 at 1:46 AM, autigeremt said: Well gee, we already have cities destroyed in socialist held territories where the policy of the day is doom and gloom so I’d say it will be an easy transformation. "cities destroyed"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,423 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 13 hours ago, autigeremt said: Yep. It’s red with yellow trim and a big yellow star ⭐️ in the middle 😂lol couldn’t help my horrible self Why do you keep posting things that belong in the trash talk forum? Having a problem with conjuring up something substantive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,438 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 21 hours ago, homersapien said: "cities destroyed"? For the stupid people on the board, this is the Portland Federal Courthouse. Can you see where the MAGAs got the idea that the media thought that storming the capital building was fine? I mean, they DEFENDED the burning of the symbols of Federal Rule in Portland Oregon until all their credibility was burned up in Memes Across America. 21 hours ago, homersapien said: Why do you keep posting things that belong in the trash talk forum? Having a problem with conjuring up something substantive? Actually, most of the board probably thinks he won hands down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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