MAGAs Trying to Storm the Capitol

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49 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

Lying about Obama being from Kenya. I could waste my time listing several, but you’d excuse them all — for some reason.

THATs your basis for calling him a racist?  LOL.  
 

is Biden a racist too?  I’d love to see your answer here.  

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8 minutes ago, GoAU said:

THATs your basis for calling him a racist?  LOL.  
 

is Biden a racist too?  I’d love to see your answer here.  

How do you explain him insisting on that obvious lie for about 2 years? You were cool with it?

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10 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

How do you explain him insisting on that obvious lie for about 2 years? You were cool with it?

Nope, but I also don’t see it as evidence of racism. 
 

You didn’t answer the question about Biden - is he a racist?

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2 minutes ago, GoAU said:

Nope, but I also don’t see it as evidence of racism. 
 

You didn’t answer the question about Biden - is he a racist?

Well, I don’t know you personally, but everyone I know personally who doesn’t believe birtherism was racist, is racist as hell. And most racists I’ve known insist they aren’t.

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6 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

Well, I don’t know you personally, but everyone I know personally who doesn’t believe birtherism was racist, is racist as hell. And most racists I’ve known insist they aren’t.

You’re right, you don’t know me.  It would seem odd to me that someone as “woke” as you would know a lot of racists, but whatever floats your boat.  I am the furthest from a racist one could get.  
 

For the third time - do you feel Biden is a racist?

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4 minutes ago, GoAU said:

You’re right, you don’t know me.  It would seem odd to me that someone as “woke” as you would know a lot of racists, but whatever floats your boat.  I am the furthest from a racist one could get.  
 

For the third time - do you feel Biden is a racist?

I don’t describe myself as “woke.” I grew up surrounded by racists. You remind me of them. 

Apparently, you think Trump is not racist, but Biden is— is that correct?

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18 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

I don’t describe myself as “woke.” I grew up surrounded by racists. You remind me of them. 

Apparently, you think Trump is not racist, but Biden is— is that correct?

And I don’t describe myself as racist, but you sure seem to infer it.  
 

As to whether either of them is a racist, I have no idea.  I do know Trump has been labeled as a racist by the media and has not committed a single act that warrants the label.  It doesn’t have to be accurate though, just repeated by liberal politicians and the liberal media.  Sure, there are some quotes that have been taken out of context and manipulated by the media, but he has not done anything to warrant that label. 
 

As for Biden, he has said things that are much more indicative of racism than Trump, but the double standard is clear.  He hasn’t been asked continuously to disavow racism and has been given a clear pass by the media and the libs.  

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1 minute ago, GoAU said:

And I don’t describe myself as racist, but you sure seem to infer it.  
 

As to whether either of them is a racist, I have no idea.  I do know Trump has been labeled as a racist by the media and has not committed a single act that warrants the label.  It doesn’t have to be accurate though, just repeated by liberal politicians and the liberal media.  Sure, there are some quotes that have been taken out of context and manipulated by the media, but he has not done anything to warrant that label. 
 

As for Biden, he has said things that are much more indicative of racism than Trump, but the double standard is clear.  He hasn’t been asked continuously to disavow racism and has been given a clear pass by the media and the libs.  

Not “a single act”? It’s a shame he’s so misunderstood.

Biden is a product of his generation. Over the course of his life  he’s said and done things some may view as racist. I also think he’s grown and gained awareness. But the overwhelming majority of black voters opted for Biden and the overwhelming majority of white supremacists opted for Trump. Why are all these folks confused when the truth is so clear to you?

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19 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

Not “a single act”? It’s a shame he’s so misunderstood.

Biden is a product of his generation. Over the course of his life  he’s said and done things some may view as racist. I also think he’s grown and gained awareness. But the overwhelming majority of black voters opted for Biden and the overwhelming majority of white supremacists opted for Trump. Why are all these folks confused when the truth is so clear to you?

LMAO! I'm sorry but you gave him a pass while others get bombed for the same damn thing. He's a horrible "leader" but hell...he's not drump so here we go. 

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Trump had more votes from black Americans in 2020 than he did in 2016.  He received the highest number of Latino votes ever for. GOP candidate, and the highest percentage of overall minority votes for a GOP candidate since the 1960s.  During his presidency he did more to reform criminal justice for minorities than any other president and delivered the strongest economy for blacks and hispanics EVER.  Yet you think he was a racist that oppressed minorities?    I think your perspective is more the shaped by the endless propaganda of the left and a biased media than actual facts.  

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50 minutes ago, autigeremt said:

LMAO! I'm sorry but you gave him a pass while others get bombed for the same damn thing. He's a horrible "leader" but hell...he's not drump so here we go. 

Strange response. GOAU says no incidents of racism by Trump, you say nothing. I say Biden has done and said things that could be viewed as racist and you claim I “gave him a pass.” Don’t drink and post too often.

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30 minutes ago, GoAU said:

Trump had more votes from black Americans in 2020 than he did in 2016.  He received the highest number of Latino votes ever for. GOP candidate, and the highest percentage of overall minority votes for a GOP candidate since the 1960s.  During his presidency he did more to reform criminal justice for minorities than any other president and delivered the strongest economy for blacks and hispanics EVER.  Yet you think he was a racist that oppressed minorities?    I think your perspective is more the shaped by the endless propaganda of the left and a biased media than actual facts.  

I think your opinion is shaped by the distorted echo chamber you live in.

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7 hours ago, GoAU said:

Trump had more votes from black Americans in 2020 than he did in 2016.  

He still only got 8 percent of the black vote according to the AP.  Ninety percent went to Biden.  Touting this is like bragging that you're the tallest midget.  

 

7 hours ago, GoAU said:

He received the highest number of Latino votes ever for. GOP candidate, and the highest percentage of overall minority votes for a GOP candidate since the 1960s.

Raw numbers aren't the thing to look at, as the voting population climbs over the years.  Percentage of the Latino vote is how you measure and he didn't perform better than other Republican candidates in that regard.  He got 32% of the Latino vote in 2020, a 3% gain over his 2016 performance.  But George W. Bush garnered 40% of the Latino vote in 2004 lane 35% in 2000.  Even John McCain got 31% in 2008.  And Reagan pulled 35% in 1980 and 37% in 1984.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

He still only got 8 percent of the black vote according to the AP.  Ninety percent went to Biden.  Touting this is like bragging that you're the tallest midget.  

 

Raw numbers aren't the thing to look at, as the voting population climbs over the years.  Percentage of the Latino vote is how you measure and he didn't perform better than other Republican candidates in that regard.  He got 32% of the Latino vote in 2020, a 3% gain over his 2016 performance.  But George W. Bush garnered 40% of the Latino vote in 2004 lane 35% in 2000.  Even John McCain got 31% in 2008.  And Reagan pulled 35% in 1980 and 37% in 1984.

 

 

The point you missed is that in spite of hearing baseless claims of him being a racist for 4 years - his support from minorities grew.   Clearly there are all sorts of opportunities for the Republicans to further engage minority demographics.   Another part is breaking the paradigm that as a minority you have to vote Democrat - after all, in Joe Biden’s eyes if you don’t vote for him “you ain’t black”.
 

Perhaps the next 2 years will enlighten a lot of people to the disaster that the libs have planned.   

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5 minutes ago, GoAU said:

The point you missed is that in spite of hearing baseless claims of him being a racist for 4 years - his support from minorities grew.   Clearly there are all sorts of opportunities for the Republicans to further engage minority demographics.   Another part is breaking the paradigm that as a minority you have to vote Democrat - after all, in Joe Biden’s eyes if you don’t vote for him “you ain’t black”.
 

Perhaps the next 2 years will enlighten a lot of people to the disaster that the libs have planned.   

He's not breaking any paradigms with small 2-3% gains that result in final percentages that aren't even in the top 5 all time in terms of percentage for Republicans.  You think he's the first Republican to get labeled a racist?  Anyone remember how GW Bush hates black people?  ($1 to Kanye). Yet GW Bush had minority support several points higher overall than Trump.

 

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43 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

 

Raw numbers aren't the thing to look at, as the voting population climbs over the years.  Percentage of the Latino vote is how you measure and he didn't perform better than other Republican candidates in that regard.  He got 32% of the Latino vote in 2020, a 3% gain over his 2016 performance.  But George W. Bush garnered 40% of the Latino vote in 2004 lane 35% in 2000.  Even John McCain got 31% in 2008.  And Reagan pulled 35% in 1980 and 37% in 1984.

 

 

It’s odd that more Hispanic/Latino voters aren’t solidly conservative voters. One would think with a large majority of that voting block coming from super-conservative Catholic backgrounds that that the more conservative candidate would get their votes. 

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35 minutes ago, aubearcat said:

It’s odd that more Hispanic/Latino voters aren’t solidly conservative voters. One would think with a large majority of that voting block coming from super-conservative Catholic backgrounds that that the more conservative candidate would get their votes. 

A lot of older black people are very socially conservative too. Solidly democratic bloc though.

Part of it is that we shouldn't necessarily treat the Latino vote as a monolithic bloc. They have motivations every bit as diverse as every other bloc. Cuban-Americans and Venezuelan-Americans, for instance, are heavily anti-socialist (and for good reason), while the Mexican-Americans in Arizona had to put of up people like crazy Joe Arpaio violating their civil rights with aplomb.

Likewise, people assume making Puerto Rico a state would automatically result in an automatic democratic gain, when that wouldn't be the case at all. 

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12 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Lying about Obama being from Kenya. I could waste my time listing several, but you’d excuse them all — for some reason.

Biden wrote the 1994 Crime Bill, the single most damaging piece of legislation ever written against Black Families and especially Black Males. It often codified drug possession into worse sentences than murder, rape, armed robbery. It has wrecked the cumulative wealth of the Black Community for decades, destroyed Black Families, ruined the employment opportunities for almost 2 generations of Black Males. 

What is your opinion on that and the man who wrote it and refuses to fix it?

I will give you mine: Biden wrote the bill with the intentions of reacting to a minor increase in crime back in the early 90s. Truth be known, the crime bump had already rectified itself before the 1994 Bill was even written although no one likely would have known that at the time. So, we have an overreaction to an increase in crime that was already over. It codified a lot of jingoisms (Hell I even supported the bill back then.) But it soon showed how lopsided it was and that it was going to be a big problem. If Washington DC was wired for systemic racism, BOTH SIDES FIRMLY ARE, this bill would have been being corrected over the last 27 years. It is as simple as this: Words used to mean things, We have now solidly learned that in Washington DC words are simply meaningless unless there is hard action to back them up, no one in DC should be given the benefit of the doubt, at least not any more.

***I often wonder just how many people on this forum are so sold out to their party that they cannot stand someone factually pointing out where their party may be doing it wrong. Facepalming legitimate complaints on racism????? Really???? How sad.....
 

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2 minutes ago, AUDub said:

A lot of older black people are very socially conservative too. Solidly democratic bloc though.

Part of it is that we shouldn't necessarily treat the Latino vote as a monolithic bloc. They have motivations every bit as diverse as every other bloc. Cuban-Americans and Venezuelan-Americans, for instance, are heavily anti-socialist (and for good reason), while the Mexican-Americans in Arizona had to put of up people like crazy Joe Arpaio violating their civil rights with aplomb.

Likewise, people assume making Puerto Rico a state would automatically result in an automatic democratic gain, when that wouldn't be the case at all. 

That is one of the best posts we have had on here in a long while. Kudos. 
It doesnt fit the narrative so get ready for facepalms and thumbdowns tho.

 

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6 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

Biden wrote the 1994 Crime bill. The single most damaging piece of legislation ever written against Black Families and especially Black Males. It often codified drug possession into worse sentences than murder, rape, armed robbery. It has wrecked the cumulative wealth of the Black Community, destroyed Black Families, Ruined the employment opportunities for almost 2 generations of Black Males. 

What is your opinion on that and the man who wrote it and refuses to fix it?

With the benefit of hindsight we all know that it was a mistake now, but given the prevailing political winds of the time it would have been someone else had it not been him.

The bill was supported by the Congressional Black Caucus, black religious leaders, and the vast majority of black mayors. Even Bernie voted in the affirmative.

And he's called to reform it. 

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49 minutes ago, aubearcat said:

It’s odd that more Hispanic/Latino voters aren’t solidly conservative voters. One would think with a large majority of that voting block coming from super-conservative Catholic backgrounds that that the more conservative candidate would get their votes. 

It goes to show you how outside of a handful of social/moral issues just how out of step and even blind the GOP is to the concerns and needs of those communities.  

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7 minutes ago, AUDub said:

And he's called to reform it. 

Biden has been in power all except four of the last 27 years. If he was going to Reform it, why has he done zero so far? Literally, this is a perfect example of Words Mean Nothing. 27 years, no actions, just meaningless words.What about the Dems that have been in office all of the last 27 years? Where are their Reforms? Where are the Bills? The Meetings, the Press Conferences? Where was the fight on the floor? In Committees? Where was it? Where?

Real live people suffer and all we get are more meaningless words.

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35 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

Biden has been in power all except four of the last 27 years. If he was going to Reform it, why has he done zero so far? Literally, this is a perfect example of Words Mean Nothing. 27 years, no actions, just meaningless words.What about the Dems that have been in office all of the last 27 years? Where are their Reforms? Where are the Bills? The Meetings, the Press Conferences? Where was the fight on the floor? In Committees? Where was it? Where?

Real live people suffer and all we get are more meaningless words.

He's hardly been "in power" the majority of the time post 90s. Generally a divided government. Under Obama, their majority in both Chambers only last two years and they burned all of their political capital on a landmark bit of healthcare legislation. 

There were a bunch of EOs issued under Obama to attempt to rectify, but little was getting through via legislative means. 

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6 minutes ago, AUDub said:

He's hardly been "in power" the majority of the time post 90s. Generally a divided government. Under Obama, their majority in both Chambers only last two years and they burned all of their political capital on a landmark bit of healthcare legislation. 

There were a bunch of EOs issued under Obama to attempt to rectify, but little was getting through via legislative means. 

So, IOW, there was no real effort to fix this for 27 years and suddenly there is going to be? 
Is your nick-name Pollyanna?
Did it hurt your pride thinking up all those excuses?