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28 minutes ago, TeamZero77 said:

As long as he wins, the fans would look the other way and love him. We do with Bruce. 

If Bruce Pearl were at Alabama and had the exact same background as he does, our fanbase would say he was the sleaziest coach in D1 not named Pitino or Calipari. Alot of our fanbase looked at him as a dirty coach when he was winning big at Tennessee and we all laughed and knew it was just a matter of time when he was fired at UT and got a show cause. Our fanbase swears up and down that Saban and Kirby are the dirtiest coaches in the nation even though they've never had anything on their record to prove it that I'm aware of. We always say Pat Dye didn't pay anybody and that was all a big setup by the mythical REC, blah blah blah. I just laugh at how alot of our fans truly believe rival coaches cheat when there's not been evidence of it but when our own coaches get caught we say they were framed and that we have never stepped outside of the rules. Takes a real Homer to believe that. 

Just give me the coach that's gonna win the most games. That's all it really seems to be about anyway. If we gonna reach into the sleaze with Freeze, just go in with both arms and bring Urban to the Plains. He would give Saban, Kirby and those fanbases a heart attack when announced for the job; that is, if he didn't give himself a heart attack first. 

Ugh, no. Bruce gave kids a barbecue. Freeze bangs hookers he calls on the company phone, and DMs assault victims suing his employer. They are not the same. Not even close

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My final take on Freeze is if you can take Liberty (LIBERTY!!!) into Arkansas and beat them on their home field you are a heck of a coach.   The team he just beat had knocked Auburn all over our home field the previous Saturday. 

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4 hours ago, tightendoverthemiddle said:

OR keep your Morals and hire proven. Gary Patterson. 

Interesting.  Maybe some time off has lit the fire in him again.

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6 hours ago, aucanucktiger said:

Look, half of our current HC candidate list - including Freeze - is based on either emotion w/ little to no rational/logical basis' or a belief that interesting O, good ole boy jowls, a dickeydoo belly or loud & proud/landing a (one) 5 star recruit is all you need.

Freeze, Kiffin, Stoops are all based on emotion? So it’s not based on SEC experience and head coaching success what-so-ever??

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9 hours ago, Auburnguy101 said:

Oh no, you downvoted me, oh whatever will I do now? I’m so heartbroken. Have a goodnight and tell Freeze to have fun in Liberty…

You are a funny person.   Your opinion or the highway.   I don’t claim to know who is going to get the job but I would like someone that actually would like the school and be happy coaching there.   So, don’t be surprised or shocked if HF is the coach is all I’m saying.   I think the Lane and Deion talk is just that, all talk.   I don’t think either is coming to Auburn and it’s not because they won’t get a call.   And let’s be straight, I don’t care who it is as long as that person wins.   
If HF is named HC, will you and the rest of the group against him, go away and not cheer for Auburn?  

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1 hour ago, aubaseball said:

You are a funny person.   Your opinion or the highway.   I don’t claim to know who is going to get the job but I would like someone that actually would like the school and be happy coaching there.   So, don’t be surprised or shocked if HF is the coach is all I’m saying.   I think the Lane and Deion talk is just that, all talk.   I don’t think either is coming to Auburn and it’s not because they won’t get a call.   And let’s be straight, I don’t care who it is as long as that person wins.   
If HF is named HC, will you and the rest of the group against him, go away and not cheer for Auburn?  

Yeah,  he has stated he will turn in his fan card if Danny Hugh is chosen. Kinda makes me want the choice to be Freeze.

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9 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

Yeah,  he has stated he will turn in his fan card if Danny Hugh is chosen. Kinda makes me want the choice to be Freeze.

Only downside is there will be 138 posts telling everyone hes turned in his fan card

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11 hours ago, zeroforwinger said:

Ugh, no. Bruce gave kids a barbecue. Freeze bangs hookers he calls on the company phone, and DMs assault victims suing his employer. They are not the same. Not even close

Was Freeze the one hooking up w escorts or was he working out deals with them for their servicing recruits? 

 

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Freeze is going to be up for the HC position whether people like it or not. He has proven to be a more than capable coach. Ole miss was his first power 5 gig and although he didn’t get them over the hump as some expect, he did make them competitive majority of the time. What he is doing at Liberty is simply amazing and I can’t help but feel that expensive will also lead to more confidence within the realm of Auburn. 

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I think, for the first time in my Auburn life, I am on the Al Davis boat of: just win baby, just win!

For some reason, I think we might actually have a school president and Athletic Director that’s not going to hire a coach for an on the job training adventure, but a serious, SEC experienced, winning coach. It just seems like it has to be either Kiffin, Freeze and I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s Stoops. Especially as we find out both Stoops and Kiffin wanted the job in 2020.

If it matters to anyone between Freeze, Kiffin, Stoops and Dion, Kiffin is the youngest in the group and the only one still in his 40s.

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Just now, AU-24 said:

I think, for the first time in my Auburn life, I am on the Al Davis boat of: just win baby, just win!

For some reason, I think we might actually have a school president and Athletic Director that’s not going to hire a coach for an on the job training adventure, but a serious, SEC experienced, winning coach. It just seems like it has to be either Kiffin, Freeze and I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s Stoops. Especially as we find out both Stoops and Kiffin wanted the job in 2020.

If it matters to anyone between Freeze, Kiffin, Stoops and Dion, Kiffin is the youngest in the group and the only one still in his 40s.

Which Stoops…Bob?

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4 minutes ago, PoetTiger said:

Which Stoops…Bob?

Mark Stoops. Turns out both Kiffin and he expressed interest to Auburn, about the job in 2020. Think about, you’re the on the job training AU Athletic Director and you have this Harsin guy from Boise Idaho, Lane Kiffin and Stoops interested in the job, and you hire the Boise State guy??  Simply unreal!

Obviously I could be wrong and I have no crystal ball but it just seems like we have more mature, experienced leadership in place now.

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7 minutes ago, AU-24 said:

Mark Stoops. Turns out both Kiffin and he expressed interest to Auburn, about the job in 2020. Think about, you’re the on the job training AU Athletic Director and you have this Harsin guy from Boise Idaho, Lane Kiffin and Stoops interested in the job, and you hire the Boise State guy??  Simply unreal!

Well they should still be interested now. On paper the Harsin hire passed the eyeball test. Experienced HC, success in his conference, etc. So I understand the hire in nature. Let’s get an outsider and see if we can move from the status quo hires of the past. Now since we all have the benefit of hindsight, it was an utter failure. Now we are moving on, and IMO there are better candidates than Stoops and Kiffin.

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6 minutes ago, PoetTiger said:

Well they should still be interested now. On paper the Harsin hire passed the eyeball test. Experienced HC, success in his conference, etc. So I understand the hire in nature. Let’s get an outsider and see if we can move from the status quo hires of the past. Now since we all have the benefit of hindsight, it was an utter failure. Now we are moving on, and IMO there are better candidates than Stoops and Kiffin.

Thanks for your comments. I’m not just saying this now, I said it then, there is no way on earth, in heaven or Hades, I would’ve hired Brian Harsin. That’s before I knew Stoops and Kiffin were interested in the job. But that’s water under the bridge now, time to move on!

The Dion crowd won’t like this, but I think he’s a bit of a wildcard, we just don’t know. It just seems like with Freeze, Stoops or Kiffin, we pretty much know what we are getting. I would take any of the four, leaning towards Kiffin. By tomorrow, I may change my mind. Again, like Al Davis once said: just win baby, just win!

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47 minutes ago, DAG said:

Freeze is going to be up for the HC position whether people like it or not. He has proven to be a more than capable coach. Ole miss was his first power 5 gig and although he didn’t get them over the hump as some expect, he did make them competitive majority of the time. What he is doing at Liberty is simply amazing and I can’t help but feel that expensive will also lead to more confidence within the realm of Auburn. 

Thoughts on Dan Lanning since he seems to be the flavor of the hour? I looked up some prospects he was lead recruiter for at GA and he signed some DUDES....but that may just be cause he was riding Kirby coattails 

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20 hours ago, Auburnguy101 said:

Also, let’s play a fun game:

Coach A:

25-23 SEC record

Had 1 10 win season at ole miss in 6 years

 

Coach B:

18-22 SEC Record

Had 1 10 win season at Ole Miss in 5 years

 

Which coach would you choose?

I wouldn't choose the one who lost to Auburn last year because of following some irrational metrics chart. I suppose that's another way of saying I don't want Lane Kiffin.

Grimes is my first choice. Any of Caddy, Dell McGee, Zac Etheridge, Freeze or Sanders would make me a happy camper. If Kiffin gets the job I would, of course, root for Auburn but I'd be extremely disappointed in him being  selected.

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19 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

Thoughts on Dan Lanning since he seems to be the flavor of the hour? I looked up some prospects he was lead recruiter for at GA and he signed some DUDES....but that may just be cause he was riding Kirby coattails 

I like Lanning, good recruiter and DC. Knows the area and recruiting landscape. Worked with two of the best. Doing a great job at Oregon this year. 

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16 minutes ago, Mikey said:

I wouldn't choose the one who lost to Auburn last year because of following some irrational metrics chart. I suppose that's another way of saying I don't want Lane Kiffin.

Grimes is my first choice. Any of Caddy, Dell McGee, Zac Etheridge, Freeze or Sanders would make me a happy camper. If Kiffin gets the job I would, of course, root for Auburn but I'd be extremely disappointed in him being  selected.

Why Grimes over a few proven HC’s?

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Just now, PoetTiger said:

Why Grimes over a few proven HC’s?

Because he's been highly successful everywhere he's been and he wants to come back to Auburn. Grimes' experience is at the highest levels of college football. He's an outstanding recruiter who has bumped heads with the best of them and won his share of recruits. He's fully qualified to take the next step up.

The experienced head coach thing doesn't impress me at all. Harsin was an experienced head coach. Jimbo is at A&M, as was Mullen at Florida. A proven head coach is no guarantee of success, though experience at a high level of competition should be a major factor. What's necessary is that the candidate should know what he's getting into. Grimes knows.

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38 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

Thoughts on Dan Lanning since he seems to be the flavor of the hour? I looked up some prospects he was lead recruiter for at GA and he signed some DUDES....but that may just be cause he was riding Kirby coattails 

I mean he would be a nice hire as well. He has great DC experience and a prime recruiter. The issue is his buyout and would he be willing to leave Oregon ? Definitely would not be upset if we got him 

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15 minutes ago, Mikey said:

Because he's been highly successful everywhere he's been and he wants to come back to Auburn. Grimes' experience is at the highest levels of college football. He's an outstanding recruiter who has bumped heads with the best of them and won his share of recruits. He's fully qualified to take the next step up.

The experienced head coach thing doesn't impress me at all. Harsin was an experienced head coach. Jimbo is at A&M, as was Mullen at Florida. A proven head coach is no guarantee of success, though experience at a high level of competition should be a major factor. What's necessary is that the candidate should know what he's getting into. Grimes knows.

Would we even seriously consider Grimes if had never worked at Auburn before. It seems to follow a pattern…Chizik>Gus>now Grimes. I mean Curtis Luper was a great recruiter for Auburn and has been every where he went, should we consider him as well? 

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2 minutes ago, PoetTiger said:

Would we even seriously consider Grimes if had never worked at Auburn before. It seems to follow a pattern…Chizik>Gus>now Grimes. I mean Curtis Luper was a great recruiter for Auburn and has been every where he went, should we consider him as well? 

No we wouldnt consider him if he wasnt tied to Auburn but tbh there is something to be said for looking at someone who has deep Au roots plus he is a good coordinator. That said, I want deion.

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1. personally i think auburn goes with grimes. he loved auburn when he was here and he has been around long enough to know whats what. 2. if freeze is hired which is a real possibility i just hope they add in his contract no stupid stuff and make the penalty harsh is he breaks his word instead of giving him a hefty buy out.#. i think stoops is a great coach but it took a minute or two for him to get kentucky and this is a worry as we have so much catching up to do.4. i like lane and i think he would do well but we would need to get a dang good D guy. % none of these are in order or even who i want so much as what i think. i really think lanning would do well here as well. he sure knows talent.and if he came here he might bring bo back. i blame harsin for bo. i heard he was not being a prima donna but wanted harsins schemes to be more friendly towards him.  also at the end of the day i am just a fan and probably would not know the difference between my behind and third base. and my being quicker is selfish in that i want to see us winning again before i kick.

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