DKW 86 7,431 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 http://www.cw.ua.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2...0/44bf2277728f5 All hints of cheating hurt sportsOur View July 20, 2006 Last Thursday, the New York Times broke a story about Auburn University football players receiving high grades in sociology and criminology classes that did not require attendance and involved little work. The sociology department's highest-ranking member, Thomas Petee, taught all the courses in question. There were 18 members of the 2004 Auburn football team who took these classes. They were similar to independent study classes but were in subjects like statistics, theory and methods. All of these classes usually require classroom attendance. Auburn University officials became suspicious after sociology department director James Gundlach saw a football player being honored as a scholar athlete in sociology. According to the Times, Gundlach had never had the student in class, and asked two other professors in the department about the player. They also said they hadn't had the student either. This allegation comes on the heels of Auburn being placed on SACS probation and a new NCAA rule that allows athletic scholarships to be revoked for colleges and universities whose athletes do not meet academic standards. Even Auburn is our biggest rival, we at the University of Alabama are not here to gloat. It's always been unspoken knowledge that colleges sometimes skewer athletes' grades to their benefit; there was just never sufficient evidence. It's extremely unethical, and players and university officials should share the blame, but the fault is not totally theirs. Athletes are often so busy with their sport that they are athletes first, and students second. That shouldn't be the case. The education that they are getting should be their main focus. An overwhelming majority of collegiate athletes are not going to participate in athletics as a lifelong career. But, they are continually told through actions and words that sports are the most important thing on their plate. It's almost as if fans put athletes in an entirely separate class from other college students. This incident at Auburn should serve as a wakeup call to Alabama and other universities around the college. Scandals like this make the entire university look bad, not just the athletics department. Plus, it makes people think less of degrees awards from those particular universities. And you just can't hide something like this for too long. Eventually a professor or student will talk, or something fishy will come up, and it will be investigated. At the University of Alabama we've had our fair share of football troubles. We are just now getting back on our feet, and we'd like to stay strong. So, let's take a lesson from Auburn, and learn from their mistakes. Cheating is always unethical, and never worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saniflush 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 http://www.cw.ua.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2...0/44bf2277728f5Cheating is always unethical, and never worth the risk. 250159[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PChamp119 96 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Except no one said Auburn ever cheated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Liger 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Cheating is always unethical, and never worth the risk. 250159[/snapback] Then according to their standard, the Bahr is the worst coach they've had to date??? This coming from a school that claims 12,437 NCs and gets offended when you question them on their reasoning for claiming so many. Pi$$ on . Self serving, self centered, stuck up, two faced, ignorant, dumb a$$, inbred rednecks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWK 0 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Except no one said Auburn ever cheated... 250166[/snapback] We Agree!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan4Auburn 1,626 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Well according to rules on independent study at the University of Alabama the class that Closner took for 6 credits in a little over a week falls into that unethical category. Course with the way articles and such are put together, selected quotes, and rewriting to support the authors views... journalism ranks right up there in the unethical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,431 Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 Well according to rules on independent study at the University of Alabama the class that Closner took for 6 credits in a little over a week falls into that unethical category.Course with the way articles and such are put together, selected quotes, and rewriting to support the authors views... journalism ranks right up there in the unethical. 250184[/snapback] They tap dance clearly out of view of that one. Sent the HUie Article where he proves Bama cheating from 1929 to 1941. Doubt I get any response nor it printed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,652 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Posted by Texas4Auburn: "Well according to rules on independent study at the University of Alabama the class that Closner took for 6 credits in a little over a week falls into that unethical category. Course with the way articles and such are put together, selected quotes, and rewriting to support the authors views... journalism ranks right up there in the unethical." RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!!!! I had the pleasure of attending the Palmetto Auburn Club meeting with David Housel this past Monday eve. in Greenville, S.C., and he said the exact same thing about this. Daivd is an old journalism professor, and he hates the media of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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