At what point do the natives get restless enough to do something

[tiger88 934]

New predictions from opec and others say oil will go 150-170 soon and very possibly $200 not long thereafter.

I hope Obama sticks with his no-drilling stance but something tells me that if oil shoots up that quickly he may flip on this too.

Anyways, at what point will the average American (at least 70% according to recent polls want more drilling yesterday) get so fed up with this idiocy that they will be ready to take action? Petitions are already started. When will people be ready to protest or find other means (peaceful) to let these liberals know that no is no longer an acceptable answer to the demand for more drilling.

We spent $400billion last year on energy importing and we have the answer to eliminating most of that beneath our own soil.

[arnaldoabru 11]

New drilling will not help what is happening now.

[tiger88 934]

Not immediately. However, it can help the future quite a bit. If we just sit around with our thumbs up our collective butts and wait for the situation get worse and worse and that is exactly what is going to happen.

We need get it going like yesterday and take every possible reasonable measure to expedite the production of such oil.

Or we can sit around and wait for the middle east to possibly implode in the near future and watch us implode immediately thereafter.

1.6 trillion barrels of shale oil in the rocky mountain area. 76 billion barrels offshore. The value of that oil is going up by the minute.

[Justin5 20]

Fact: we have 3% of the worlds supply of oil

Fact: we consume over 25% of the worlds supply of oil

Drilling isn't going to chance the price more than 10 to 15 cents at the most. It is an irresponsible false hope that the Republican party is using as a political tool.

[AUTiger1 0]

Fact: we have 3% of the worlds supply of oil

Fact: we consume over 25% of the worlds supply of oil

Drilling isn't going to chance the price more than 10 to 15 cents at the most. It is an irresponsible false hope that the Republican party is using as a political tool.

Link please? I would like to read that, b/c the Rand corporation seems to think that we have almost one trillion barrels of oil shale in the Rockies and that would be more than 3%. A lot more, 3 times as much as Saudi Arabia's oil reserve. Not to mention that abundance of Natural Gas that is out there that we are not tapping into. God forbid that it would be cheaper for me to use Natural Gas to heat my home, run my water heater, my dryer and stove. How much oil is consumed for heating homes and other various things that could be replaced and put back in the market by Natural Gas?

[AUdaREALsecTigers 2]

Fact: we have 3% of the worlds supply of oil

Fact: we consume over 25% of the worlds supply of oil

Drilling isn't going to chance the price more than 10 to 15 cents at the most. It is an irresponsible false hope that the Republican party is using as a political tool.

Pay no attention to the man behind the screen...

[Justin5 20]

Fact: we have 3% of the worlds supply of oil

Fact: we consume over 25% of the worlds supply of oil

Drilling isn't going to chance the price more than 10 to 15 cents at the most. It is an irresponsible false hope that the Republican party is using as a political tool.

Link please? I would like to read that, b/c the Rand corporation seems to think that we have almost one trillion barrels of oil shale in the Rockies and that would be more than 3%. A lot more, 3 times as much as Saudi Arabia's oil reserve. Not to mention that abundance of Natural Gas that is out there that we are not tapping into. God forbid that it would be cheaper for me to use Natural Gas to heat my home, run my water heater, my dryer and stove. How much oil is consumed for heating homes and other various things that could be replaced and put back in the market by Natural Gas?

How about this for a start:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_...gy-oil-reserves

[HuntsvilleTiger 0]

Fact: we have 3% of the worlds supply of oil

Fact: we consume over 25% of the worlds supply of oil

Drilling isn't going to chance the price more than 10 to 15 cents at the most. It is an irresponsible false hope that the Republican party is using as a political tool.

Link please? I would like to read that, b/c the Rand corporation seems to think that we have almost one trillion barrels of oil shale in the Rockies and that would be more than 3%. A lot more, 3 times as much as Saudi Arabia's oil reserve. Not to mention that abundance of Natural Gas that is out there that we are not tapping into. God forbid that it would be cheaper for me to use Natural Gas to heat my home, run my water heater, my dryer and stove. How much oil is consumed for heating homes and other various things that could be replaced and put back in the market by Natural Gas?

How about this for a start:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_...gy-oil-reserves

From your own link...

DEFINITION: According to Web definitions the term refers to the total amount of petroleum (oil) discovered in any given oil field or nation. Thus it can be said that Kuwait has xxxx millions of barrels (mb) of oil in the ground. However, the exact amount can never be known, simply because of the difficulty in sensing or "seeing" beneath the surface of the Earth. The term Proven Reserve or PR refers to an amount of oil that is generally accepted by geologists to be the actual amount of petroleum in the ground.

HENCE the reason we should do MORE explorative drilling!

[AUTiger1 0]

Fact: we have 3% of the worlds supply of oil

Fact: we consume over 25% of the worlds supply of oil

Drilling isn't going to chance the price more than 10 to 15 cents at the most. It is an irresponsible false hope that the Republican party is using as a political tool.

Link please? I would like to read that, b/c the Rand corporation seems to think that we have almost one trillion barrels of oil shale in the Rockies and that would be more than 3%. A lot more, 3 times as much as Saudi Arabia's oil reserve. Not to mention that abundance of Natural Gas that is out there that we are not tapping into. God forbid that it would be cheaper for me to use Natural Gas to heat my home, run my water heater, my dryer and stove. How much oil is consumed for heating homes and other various things that could be replaced and put back in the market by Natural Gas?

How about this for a start:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_...gy-oil-reserves

From your own link...

DEFINITION: According to Web definitions the term refers to the total amount of petroleum (oil) discovered in any given oil field or nation. Thus it can be said that Kuwait has xxxx millions of barrels (mb) of oil in the ground. However, the exact amount can never be known, simply because of the difficulty in sensing or "seeing" beneath the surface of the Earth. The term Proven Reserve or PR refers to an amount of oil that is generally accepted by geologists to be the actual amount of petroleum in the ground.

HENCE the reason we should do MORE explorative drilling!

Spot on HT!

Also one should notice that the info is from 2005. Where is the United Kingdom on the list. They have according to the CIA factbook that (your site links it as where they get all their info btw) that they have 4.5 Billion barrels, so that would put them right behind #80 South Africa on the list and right along side Solvakia. They are no where to be mentioned. So do you discredit the Rand Corporations study? PDF Link

Oil Shale is profitable at $70 buck a barrel about half the cost of what a barrel of sweet crude is going for now.

[TheDrewYouKnew 3]

New drilling will not help what is happening now.

I love that line! So you think we should do NOTHING ever about anything if we dont see IMMEDIATE results from it. SMART democrat, SMART....

[Justin5 20]

I didn't like the Rockies anyways.

[tiger88 934]

The ignorance displayed by those who don't want to drill is baffling.

If nothing else it will help ensure our supply until the soonest possible time that an effective alternative energy source can be implemented.

No, they say. Lets just sit here and depend on the middle east, venezuela and others to secure our future.

[OldNewby 27]

Where is the United Kingdom on the list

#24

[AUTiger1 0]

Where is the United Kingdom on the list

#24

Thanks, my apologies, I overlooked them.

[RunInRed 16,454]

Not immediately. However, it can help the future quite a bit. If we just sit around with our thumbs up our collective butts and wait for the situation get worse and worse and that is exactly what is going to happen.

A lot of things could help the future quite a bit. This premise on the far right that drililng is the end-all-be-all answer is beyond ridiculous and terribly short-sighted. You don't combat a fire by pouring more fuel on it.

How about we take the money and time invested in this exploratory drilling rendezvous you guys want to go on and let's develop a clean alternative energy. Then we can all collectively kiss OPEC, Big Oil, Oil Speculators and the rest of the cronies goodbye for good. Huckabee wanted to hang an "out of business" sign on the IRS - why can't do the same to the oil industry?

[Tigermike 3,046]

Fact: we have 3% of the worlds supply of oil

Fact: we consume over 25% of the worlds supply of oil

Assuming that those two percentages are correct, how can you in good conscience NOT want to drill more? If only for the selfish reason of providing more of our own for our own?

Drilling isn't going to chance the price more than 10 to 15 cents at the most. It is an irresponsible false hope that the Republican party is using as a political tool.

It is irresponsible and out right lying for the dimocrat party to float all this pie in sky it will be better in the future alternative fuel will save the planet propaganda. While at the same time absolutely not allowing or opening up coastal drilling.

You people don't care one s*** how people suffer as long as your socialist/global warming/Mother Earth loving agenda is pushed.

[Justin5 20]

A little fact that everyone seems to be forgeting is if Pres Bush wanted he could lease more of the US Naval reserve for drilling. Why doesn't he do that? Because this is only political fodder.

[RunInRed 16,454]

You people don't care one s*** how people suffer as long as your socialist/global warming/Mother Earth loving agenda is pushed.

How is not wanting to drill our way out of this problem sociliastic?

[Justin5 20]

You people don't care one s*** how people suffer as long as your socialist/global warming/Mother Earth loving agenda is pushed.

How is seeing not wanting to drill our way out of this problem socilaistic?

Careful, don't make him move from his R talking points and think for himself.

[tiger88 934]

Not immediately. However, it can help the future quite a bit. If we just sit around with our thumbs up our collective butts and wait for the situation get worse and worse and that is exactly what is going to happen.

A lot of things could help the future quite a bit. This premise on the far right that drililng is the end-all-be-all answer is beyond ridiculous and terribly short-sighted. You don't combat a fire by pouring more fuel on it.

How about we take the money and time invested in this exploratory drilling rendezvous you guys want to go on and let's develop a clean alternative energy. Then we can all collectively kiss OPEC, Big Oil, Oil Speculators and the rest of the cronies goodbye for good. Huckabee wanted to hang an "out of business" sign on the IRS - why can't do the same to the oil industry?

It is the end all be all short term answer. Things run on gasoline oil and gas UNTIL we can find an alternative. For at least the next 20 years and probably more we will need lots of oil, period. Once we find an alternative it will take a long time to implement it.

What is beyond ridiculous is for liberals to insist we put all of our eggs into one imaginary basket that doesn't even exist yet. Not to mention that we have no idea how long it will take to make this basket or if it can even be made at all.

What is going to be sad is if in the next year or two or five our shaky oil supply lines fall apart and we are sitting there with no alternative energy and no way to drill quickly enough for the oil we will desperately need. We will be beyond f#$%ed.

But no, lets just forget it and keep sending 100's of billions of dollars to other countries for goods we could EASILY ENOUGH provide for ourselves. Lets watch the economy crumble even further due to past liberal resistance to drilling and accelerate downhill due to current resistance. It just makes too much sense for some liberals to do this.

[TheDrewYouKnew 3]

Blah blah, blah, we arent going to run out anytime soon - fact. We should tap the resources we have and also continue to look into alternative fuels. Liberals just try to rile people up and scare them into voting ignorantly (voting democrat). They said we had a 40 year supply left on earth almost 40 years ago, and today they still say we have a 40 year supply. $4.00 a gallon gas isn't hurting anyone who posts on this site. Do the right thing for yourself and your kids and vote for McCain.

[BZ770 2]

Do the right thing for yourself and your kids and vote for McCain.

Finally a voice of reason among all this insanity.

[Tigermike 3,046]

You people don't care one s*** how people suffer as long as your socialist/global warming/Mother Earth loving agenda is pushed.

How is seeing not wanting to drill our way out of this problem socilaistic?

Why did you pick up on that one word in the entire post?

And why did you then misspell it?

But to answer your question, not wanting to drill our way out of this problem is not the socialist plank of your platform.

[arnaldoabru 11]

New drilling will not help what is happening now.

I love that line! So you think we should do NOTHING ever about anything if we dont see IMMEDIATE results from it. SMART democrat, SMART....

How about developing alternative energy sources. The arabs don't have to use terrorism to bring us down. They are going to do it with oil.

[Tigermike 3,046]

New drilling will not help what is happening now.

I love that line! So you think we should do NOTHING ever about anything if we dont see IMMEDIATE results from it. SMART democrat, SMART....

How about developing alternative energy sources. The arabs don't have to use terrorism to bring us down. They are going to do it with oil.

WHAT ALTERNATIVES? WHEN FOR THOSE ALTERNATIVES?

Have you read ANYONE on these forums advocating DRILLING ONLY? Has anyone NOT been advocating developing alternative energy sources?