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Northgatiger, you really think a running back wouldn’t come to AU because he thinks he might have to carry the full load! I think most great running backs would say give me the ball, give me the ball coach!

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1 hour ago, toddc said:

Northgatiger, you really think a running back wouldn’t come to AU because he thinks he might have to carry the full load! I think most great running backs would say give me the ball, give me the ball coach!

You are absolutely correct. However, if one accepts that there's no way to put a negative spin on it. So.......

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10 hours ago, toddc said:

Northgatiger, you really think a running back wouldn’t come to AU because he thinks he might have to carry the full load! I think most great running backs would say give me the ball, give me the ball coach!

I absolutely think today that RBs are looking at longevity and don't want to get ran into the ground.  I think unlike in the past they would prefer to share the load and save their bodies for the next level.  You are seeing it everywhere in college football except Auburn.  Mikey I am not trying to put negative spin on anything.  I simply stated that running a RB into the ground can be used negatively in recruiting.  Especially with the parents.  

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I don't think Worm Shivers or his mom are worried about too many carries; " Senior running back Shaun Shivers completed his decorated high school career, running for 216 yards and two touchdowns. The Auburn commit finished his senior season with 2,241 yards. " link:http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/football/broward/fl-sp-cm-3a-final-20171209-story.html

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2 hours ago, Mikey said:

I don't think Worm Shivers or his mom are worried about too many carries; " Senior running back Shaun Shivers completed his decorated high school career, running for 216 yards and two touchdowns. The Auburn commit finished his senior season with 2,241 yards. " link:http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/football/broward/fl-sp-cm-3a-final-20171209-story.html

I agree with your point, but you're not really proving it with those stats. Shaun had fewer carries (268) over the 21 games of his 2 seasons in high school than Kerryon Johnson did (285) in his 12 games in 2017. That's just over half the carries per game. 

The NFL is looking for guys with a little more tread left on their tires. That's not lost on college and high school players. Many- maybe even most- will still want as many carries as they can get. Others will listen to a sales pitch offering a different perspective. 

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31 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

I agree with your point, but you're not really proving it with those stats. Shaun had fewer carries (268) over the 21 games of his 2 seasons in high school than Kerryon Johnson did (285) in his 12 games in 2017. That's just over half the carries per game. 

The NFL is looking for guys with a little more tread left on their tires. That's not lost on college and high school players. Many- maybe even most- will still want as many carries as they can get. Others will listen to a sales pitch offering a different perspective. 

In recruiting there is no perfect solution. One kid would prefer Auburn because he gets a lot of carries and gets the chance to shine. Another thinks about having more tread left for the next level. We see all kinds of different reasons why kids come to a school. School is close to home and family can visit, School is far away and kid wants to see something new,  Number of players at their position that go to NFL, School approaches the game like a business, school is family and like home, where girlfriend goes, etc.

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24 minutes ago, AuburnNTexas said:

In recruiting there is no perfect solution. One kid would prefer Auburn because he gets a lot of carries and gets the chance to shine. Another thinks about having more tread left for the next level. We see all kinds of different reasons why kids come to a school. School is close to home and family can visit, School is far away and kid wants to see something new,  Number of players at their position that go to NFL, School approaches the game like a business, school is family and like home, where girlfriend goes, etc.

I don't disagree with this and have in fact made all of these points numerous times in past recruiting threads. 

I was just responding to Mikey because I know he appreciates me stalking his posts and needlessly offering counter points. 

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6 hours ago, McLoofus said:

I don't disagree with this and have in fact made all of these points numerous times in past recruiting threads. 

I was just responding to Mikey because I know he appreciates me stalking his posts and needlessly offering counter points. 

I was basically just adding to what you said. Mikey is very knowledgeable but it is fun to pull his chain every now and then.

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4 hours ago, McLoofus said:

I agree with your point, but you're not really proving it with those stats. Shaun had fewer carries (268) over the 21 games of his 2 seasons in high school than Kerryon Johnson did (285) in his 12 games in 2017. That's just over half the carries per game. 

The NFL is looking for guys with a little more tread left on their tires. That's not lost on college and high school players. Many- maybe even most- will still want as many carries as they can get. Others will listen to a sales pitch offering a different perspective. 

The purpose for Shaun having fewer carries is because he isn't a selfish player. Once we are up on an opponent there was no need for him to continue. He knows how to share the ball. Which resulted in him having fewer carries because he never played in the second half of games because they were blowing out the competition. The is logic reason behind the less carries. 

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3 minutes ago, Momma Worm said:

The purpose for Shaun having fewer carries is because he isn't a selfish player. Once we are up on an opponent there was no need for him to continue. He knows how to share the ball. Which resulted in him having fewer carries because he never played in the second half of games because they were blowing out the competition. The is logic reason behind the less carries. 

Momma Worm, God bless you for being on this forum! I can’t wait to see your son run the ball for AU! Most of all get a great education and do something great in this world. You’re a good mom from what I’ve seen from your posts, and in what I know about your son!

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4 minutes ago, Momma Worm said:

The purpose for Shaun having fewer carries is because he isn't a selfish player. Once we are up on an opponent there was no need for him to continue. He knows how to share the ball. Which resulted in him having fewer carries because he never played in the second half of games because they were blowing out the competition. The is logic reason behind the less carries. 

Totally! And when you're putting up numbers like he has, it doesn't matter how many or how few carries it took to get him there. 

Like I told Mikey, I was agreeing with him that Shaun will eat as many carries as we can feed him. I just like to argue with him and was pointing out something else :)

Trust me, I've been #TeamWorm from the jump and I know he's made for SEC football.

Spring ball will be here before we know it!

 

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Normally can't wait for Spring ball but this year the basketball team is doing so well I have something to keep my interests alive. Now if we could only get a great Auburn Rugby team so we could watch them in the Penn 7's every year.

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6 hours ago, Momma Worm said:

The purpose for Shaun having fewer carries is because he isn't a selfish player. Once we are up on an opponent there was no need for him to continue. He knows how to share the ball. Which resulted in him having fewer carries because he never played in the second half of games because they were blowing out the competition. The is logic reason behind the less carries. 

I was going to say welcome to the forum, and then saw you have been on here since 2016 so I missed the train on that.  Happy to have you on the forum, as well as your son on the team!  Welcome to the Family!

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4 hours ago, AuburnNTexas said:

Normally can't wait for Spring ball but this year the basketball team is doing so well I have something to keep my interests alive. Now if we could only get a great Auburn Rugby team so we could watch them in the Penn 7's every year.

It takes leather balls to play rugby. That's something many of our resident wimps lack.

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6'2" 220 lbs. as a Junior in High School...

Dear lord they make these kids bigger and bigger every year.

He is quoted as saying Miami and Bama are his two favorite teams though Miami hasn't offered yet. So -1* for taste in teams. Miami fans are quite similar to the Turds at times...More like Georgia I suppose, it's always "their year"

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hope we land this young man. I would think with the other guys from the same school we signed will help reel this young man into the best school by far!  I am orange and blue through and through. Come to the school where you will be great and commit tomorrow and don't be late!

I have an elephant cut out attached to a post out back that Lord Maxwell enjoys peeing on everyday now!

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14 minutes ago, doc4aday said:

hope we land this young man. I would think with the other guys from the same school we signed will help reel this young man into the best school by far!  I am orange and blue through and through. Come to the school where you will be great and commit tomorrow and don't be late!

I have an elephant cut out attached to a post out back that Lord Maxwell enjoys peeing on everyday now!

I hope that’s your dogs name!lol

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23 hours ago, toddc said:

I hope that’s your dogs name!lol

that is my darling little Welsh Corgi! He hates anything to do with the turds!

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