"Controversial" Team Names - give me a break

[mustache eagle 2,402]

I am sure this has been covered in the past. But, i could not help myself with this little diddy ...

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/09/12/Goodell-Redskins

Goodell says “If one person is offended, we have to listen,"

are you freaking kidding me ...

does this mean that if i complain and am offended by the wussification of the nfl, then he should listen to me just the same?

[cptau 169]

Almost none of their team names are safe form causing offense......

Saints - Name is religious, atheists are offended...

Packers - Meat processing - Vegetarians and animal rights persons are offended.

Cowboys - Herding Beef Cattle - Vegetarians and animal rights persons are offended.

Vikings - Evil Scandinavian sea raiders - victims offended

Raiders - Evil pirates - victims offended

Buccaneers - Evil sea raiders - victims offended

49s - Evil gold miners - environmentalists offended

Colts, Broncos, Falcons, Eagles, Sea Hawks, Rams, Bears, Bengals, Lions, Dolphins, Panthers, Cardinals, Jaguar, Buffalo Bills, Ravens - animals - animal rights persons are offended

Chiefs - boss indians - indians offended

Redskins - indians - indians offended

Steelers - polluting steel workers - environmentalists offended.

Oilers - Evil fossil fuel workers - environmentalists offended

Jets - noisy polluting planes - environmentalists offended

Browns - color - people who do not like the color brown are offended.

Giants, Titans - big people - little people are offended

Patriots - colonial rebels - descendants of colonial tories are offended

Texans - Texas people - People who do not like texas are offended.

[mustache eagle 2,402]

nice!

[Weegle777 78]

With the sissified culture we have in the US now, does it really surprise you?

[icanthearyou 4,462]

Seriously, you cannot see how native Americans would be offended by the term "redskins"?

[cptau 169]

All names eventually offend someone somewhere.

Just give them numbers and letters to be safe......

New York giants becomes NFL NY1

Chicago bears becomes NFL CH1

.......etc.

Problem solved.....

[icanthearyou 4,462]

All names eventually offend someone somewhere.

Just give them numbers and letters to be safe......

New York giants becomes NFL NY1

Chicago bears becomes NFL CH1

.......etc.

Problem solved.....

This is the second time you have posted your "all names are offensive to someone" theory. It still makes no point. Why not just address the only team name that is questionable.

[AUpocalypse 12]

Didn't grow up on a reservation or anything, but I am Native American and I think this pursuit for political correctness is a silly outlet for bored people to chase a cause. The inclusion of these things in our sports is an honor and representation of history to me. If this were a serious and logical issue, then people should chase movie execs, toy makers, cartoonists, or maybe the European countries responsible for invading in the first place. It's all just an unnecessary waste of time. Sports have more than 150 years under the belt in using names (such as these) to distinguish and identify themselves. Grandfather those who have such names if need be and let's move on society.

[around4ever 4,139]

I'm with AUpocalypse.

My lineage is deeply rooted in the Creek Tribe. My paternal Great Grandmother was full blooded Creek. I am very proud of that part of my heritage. I have no problem with the Redskins, Braves, Indians, Chiefs, etc. being used a nicknames for sports teams. I consider it honoring my heritage. I know that at one time in history, redskin was considered a derogatory term. I tend to think otherwise. I consider it to be a term representing the bravery and courage of Native Americans.

As has been said many times, every nickname is going to be offensive to somebody in today's pudinization of America.

[cptau 169]

All names eventually offend someone somewhere.

Just give them numbers and letters to be safe......

New York giants becomes NFL NY1

Chicago bears becomes NFL CH1

.......etc.

Problem solved.....

This is the second time you have posted your "all names are offensive to someone" theory. It still makes no point. Why not just address the only team name that is questionable.

The word you are concerned with is a direct English translation of an indian word. So is the word whiteskin.

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002961.html

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

[around4ever 4,139]

All names eventually offend someone somewhere.

Just give them numbers and letters to be safe......

New York giants becomes NFL NY1

Chicago bears becomes NFL CH1

.......etc.

Problem solved.....

This is the second time you have posted your "all names are offensive to someone" theory. It still makes no point. Why not just address the only team name that is questionable.

The word you are concerned with is a direct English translation of an indian word. So is the word whiteskin.

http://itre.cis.upen...ves/002961.html

http://anthropology....ard/redskin.pdf

More from Ives Goddard the curator and senior linguist in the Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution. He is a specialist in Algonquian languages, he serves as the linguistic editor and technical editor of the "Handbook of North American Indians". In this letter from Chief Black Thunder to William Clark, he refers to his own people as red skins.

http://anthropology....lk-speeches.pdf

[icanthearyou 4,462]

All names eventually offend someone somewhere.

Just give them numbers and letters to be safe......

New York giants becomes NFL NY1

Chicago bears becomes NFL CH1

.......etc.

Problem solved.....

This is the second time you have posted your "all names are offensive to someone" theory. It still makes no point. Why not just address the only team name that is questionable.

The word you are concerned with is a direct English translation of an indian word. So is the word whiteskin.

http://itre.cis.upen...ves/002961.html

http://anthropology....ard/redskin.pdf

More from Ives Goddard the curator and senior linguist in the Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution. He is a specialist in Algonquian languages, he serves as the linguistic editor and technical editor of the "Handbook of North American Indians". In this letter from Chief Black Thunder to William Clark, he refers to his own people as red skins.

http://anthropology....lk-speeches.pdf

All native Americans can be represented by the Algonquians? Honestly, your argument is that native Americans shouldn't be offended? Oh, okay. You and Ives go right ahead telling native Americans how they should feel.

[Weegle777 78]

Seriously, you cannot see how native Americans would be offended by the term "redskins"?

It's no more offensive than calling someone white or black.

[around4ever 4,139]

All names eventually offend someone somewhere.

Just give them numbers and letters to be safe......

New York giants becomes NFL NY1

Chicago bears becomes NFL CH1

.......etc.

Problem solved.....

This is the second time you have posted your "all names are offensive to someone" theory. It still makes no point. Why not just address the only team name that is questionable.

The word you are concerned with is a direct English translation of an indian word. So is the word whiteskin.

http://itre.cis.upen...ves/002961.html

http://anthropology....ard/redskin.pdf

More from Ives Goddard the curator and senior linguist in the Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution. He is a specialist in Algonquian languages, he serves as the linguistic editor and technical editor of the "Handbook of North American Indians". In this letter from Chief Black Thunder to William Clark, he refers to his own people as red skins.

http://anthropology....lk-speeches.pdf

All native Americans can be represented by the Algonquians? Honestly, your argument is that native Americans shouldn't be offended? Oh, okay. You and Ives go right ahead telling native Americans how they should feel.

No, my point was that the Native Americans at the time of this letter CALLED THEMSELVES red skins.

[Weegle777 78]

A4E, there are just some in this country that have dainty wittle feewings, and have a hard time with the long lost art of something called, "sucking it up and being a man." Sickens me when men say they are "offended". These type of idiotic issues just further the reality that our society has been pansified. Pretty soon, men will start demanding that everyone has to start wearing pink little panties.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

Seriously, you cannot see how native Americans would be offended by the term "redskins"?

It's no more offensive than calling someone white or black.

I don't think you get to make that call for an entire race of people. You can't tell other people how they should feel.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

All names eventually offend someone somewhere.

Just give them numbers and letters to be safe......

New York giants becomes NFL NY1

Chicago bears becomes NFL CH1

.......etc.

Problem solved.....

This is the second time you have posted your "all names are offensive to someone" theory. It still makes no point. Why not just address the only team name that is questionable.

The word you are concerned with is a direct English translation of an indian word. So is the word whiteskin.

http://itre.cis.upen...ves/002961.html

http://anthropology....ard/redskin.pdf

More from Ives Goddard the curator and senior linguist in the Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution. He is a specialist in Algonquian languages, he serves as the linguistic editor and technical editor of the "Handbook of North American Indians". In this letter from Chief Black Thunder to William Clark, he refers to his own people as red skins.

http://anthropology....lk-speeches.pdf

All native Americans can be represented by the Algonquians? Honestly, your argument is that native Americans shouldn't be offended? Oh, okay. You and Ives go right ahead telling native Americans how they should feel.

No, my point was that the Native Americans at the time of this letter CALLED THEMSELVES red skins.

Some yes, all no. However, it has nothing to do with the feelings of native Americans today.

[AU64 10,122]

The NFL is late to this game so to speak. Probably ten years ago the NCAA brow-beat all college teams that had "offensive" team mascots by threatening to keep them out of bowl and TV productions. Money did the trick obviously and teams like William and Mary, Stanford, and dozens more dropped their Native American references though somehow FSU was able to get the Seminoles to allow them to keep their traditional name...and amazingly, allowed them to use the horse and rider to celebrate TDs and the like....I mean, did the Seminoles even ride horses down in the Everglades? most likely not.

Otherwise, all across the nation colleges and universities did the PC thing which I guess is not too surprising since colleges and universities are the most PC institutions in this country. Thus far the Braves, Redskins and Indians in professional sports have ignored the whining but looks like someone in congress is threatening ole Roger G....maybe time to look at the NFL's exemption to the country's anti-trust laws?

[around4ever 4,139]

There are still plenty of college teams with Native American related names. Looking over the list I found some very interesting nicknames. One of the funniest was the Scripps College Stags. Whats funny about it? It is an all women school. Oh well, check out the list if you are interested. If not, then as the bammer admins say, "nothing to see here, move along".

[icanthearyou 4,462]

A4E, there are just some in this country that have dainty wittle feewings, and have a hard time with the long lost art of something called, "sucking it up and being a man." Sickens me when men say they are "offended". These type of idiotic issues just further the reality that our society has been pansified. Pretty soon, men will start demanding that everyone has to start wearing pink little panties.

If being considerate of other people feelings makes me a pansy then yes, you are correct. I am a pink panty wearing pansy and proud of it. Have you moved into the Rush Limbaugh alternate reality where being insulting makes your opinion the correct one? Talking tough doesn't make you tough.

[cptau 169]

All names eventually offend someone somewhere.

Just give them numbers and letters to be safe......

New York giants becomes NFL NY1

Chicago bears becomes NFL CH1

.......etc.

Problem solved.....

This is the second time you have posted your "all names are offensive to someone" theory. It still makes no point. Why not just address the only team name that is questionable.

The word you are concerned with is a direct English translation of an indian word. So is the word whiteskin.

http://itre.cis.upen...ves/002961.html

http://anthropology....ard/redskin.pdf

More from Ives Goddard the curator and senior linguist in the Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution. He is a specialist in Algonquian languages, he serves as the linguistic editor and technical editor of the "Handbook of North American Indians". In this letter from Chief Black Thunder to William Clark, he refers to his own people as red skins.

http://anthropology....lk-speeches.pdf

All native Americans can be represented by the Algonquians? Honestly, your argument is that native Americans shouldn't be offended? Oh, okay. You and Ives go right ahead telling native Americans how they should feel.

No, my point was that the Native Americans at the time of this letter CALLED THEMSELVES red skins.

Some yes, all no. However, it has nothing to do with the feelings of native Americans today.

The word was orginally documented as being used by tribes in the midwest.

The use of the word in Hollywood cowboy and Indian fantasy movies have more to with their reaction than anything else. I've never heard the term used in conversation except to refer to the football team, even in the 50s and 60s before political correctness.

And Arkansas needs to get rid of their pig mascot too. Offensive to Moslem students.

[around4ever 4,139]

If I was Daniel Snyder I would change the nickname to the Washington Christian Whiteskins. After all it is OK to offend White Christians.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

If I was Daniel Snyder I would change the nickname to the Washington Christian Whiteskins. After all it is OK to offend White Christians.

If I were DS, I would change the name to the Washington Bureaucrats. Sell the team to the federal government. Buy it back in ten years for one tenth of what I sold it for.

Are white Christians offended by being called white Christians?

[around4ever 4,139]

If I was Daniel Snyder I would change the nickname to the Washington Christian Whiteskins. After all it is OK to offend White Christians.

If I were DS, I would change the name to the Washington Bureaucrats. Sell the team to the federal government. Buy it back in ten years for one tenth of what I sold it for.

Are white Christians offended by being called white Christians?

No, not at all. But I can't speak for everybody, only myself. Christians, no matter the color, white, black, RED, yellow or purple should never be offended by being called a Christian.

[AU64 10,122]

Any of you folks old enough to remember the old Atlanta Crackers baseball team?.....boy that would not be acceptable these days....but fortunately the AAA team folded and it's now the Braves who call Atlanta home. Gotta love it.....as Bielema's wife would say......karma....ain't it wonderful.