TexasTiger 12,876 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't know the ncaa rules, but whatever rule might exist for these facts would likely be different than the one Khari was relying on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,093 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't know the ncaa rules, but whatever rule might exist for these facts would likely be different than the one Khari was relying on. It basically states there are no more waiver options for any undergrad transfer to be eligible immediately no matter the reason. Based on this, this and this there is no differientiation at all for undergrads based on circumstances. There are no waivers for transferring undergrads to be immediately eligible.The new waivers undergrad transfers can use & would benefit AU would be in a case like Darius James. That waiver is for a 6th year to play 4. If I understand the new rule correctly a player can can file a waiver and possibly be eligible for a 6th year if he was Redshirted at his original school. Darius redshirted his 1st year @ Texas before playing last season as a RS Freshman. He will have to Redshirt a 2nd year for the 2015 season. If AU files a waiver & is accepted then Darius could play for AU for 3 seasons: 2016, 2017, & 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 So. Is Jamel eligible or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,093 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 So. Is Jamel eligible or not? All I can say is it does not look like it & reiterate that at this time, the AU staff does bot think he will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 So. Is Jamel eligible or not? All I can say is it does not look like it & reiterate that at this time, the AU staff does bot think he will be. That's fine. All I needed is some closure on the subject and that should suffice for now at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,876 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't know the ncaa rules, but whatever rule might exist for these facts would likely be different than the one Khari was relying on. It basically states there are no more waiver options for any undergrad transfer to be eligible immediately no matter the reason. Based on this, this and this there is no differientiation at all for undergrads based on circumstances. There are no waivers for transferring undergrads to be immediately eligible.The new waivers undergrad transfers can use & would benefit AU would be in a case like Darius James. That waiver is for a 6th year to play 4. If I understand the new rule correctly a player can can file a waiver and possibly be eligible for a 6th year if he was Redshirted at his original school. Darius redshirted his 1st year @ Texas before playing last season as a RS Freshman. He will have to Redshirt a 2nd year for the 2015 season. If AU files a waiver & is accepted then Darius could play for AU for 3 seasons: 2016, 2017, & 2018. Thanks . It's rules like this that will eventually cripple the ncaa's authority in my opinion -- Ohio St. is given free reign to end a career after they over sign and the young man's options are to give up football or lose a year. The deck is stacked and that's why the NCAA is losing in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,409 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Cornerback Jamel Dean, who will transfer from Ohio State to Auburn, said in an interview that he had been denied an NCAA waiver and will have to sit out next season."Because of the whole NCAA transfer thing, I've got to sit out a year, so I've got to redshirt," Dean, from Cocoa (Fla.) High School, told the Florida Today newspaper. He said he will plans to arrive at Auburn in late July. http://auburn.247sports.com/Bolt/Ohio-State-transfer-will-have-to-sit-out-first-Auburn-season-37752190 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,603 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Quote: "unless he requests to have the waiver....from my one little source, nowheres as good as others... " The thing is, as I understand the new ruling, there are no more waivers. Period. Your 'little source" may be correct for all I know. I'd just like for somebody to post a link stating how and when a waiver is still possible. They wouldn't grant Harding a waiver to play at Tulsa this year so his dying father could see him play. I don't know under what circumstances a guy could get approval to skip his transfer year and play immediately. It won't be called a waiver, the NCAA made that clear. As predicted. Waivers are a thing of the past. Other than for graduated seniors, if you transfer, you sit a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinPF 94 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Would love to have him this year BUT IMHO the need next year will be greater. Let him rehab the knee and be 100% sure without any doubt while getting bigger, faster, stronger as he learns the system. Then in '17 compete for a starting slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronCrazy 1,062 Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 I too think a redshirt would be the best for Mr. Dean. Let him fully recover and compete for the starting job next year after losing three senior DB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDUBB4AU 5,121 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Great time for him to recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,228 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 We Will have some competition at corner next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednilla 5,391 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 ...I don't think the injury is a hindrance to his ability to play this season, it was simply the scapegoat Meyer used to stay under the 85 scholly limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTUmike 79 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Quote: "unless he requests to have the waiver....from my one little source, nowheres as good as others... " The thing is, as I understand the new ruling, there are no more waivers. Period. Your 'little source" may be correct for all I know. I'd just like for somebody to post a link stating how and when a waiver is still possible. They wouldn't grant Harding a waiver to play at Tulsa this year so his dying father could see him play. I don't know under what circumstances a guy could get approval to skip his transfer year and play immediately. It won't be called a waiver, the NCAA made that clear. As predicted. Waivers are a thing of the past. Other than for graduated seniors, if you transfer, you sit a year. This was far from certain. Far be it from me to predict the NCAA's decisions, but there have been numerous non-graduate transfer waivers granted in the past few months. http://wvmetronews.com/2015/05/30/michigan-transfer-bosch-eligible-to-play-at-wvu-in-2015-thanks-to-waiver/ http://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports/csu/football/2015/06/01/vanderbilt-transfer-mitch-parsons-colorado-state/28325547/ http://www.chron.com/sports/cougars/article/UH-receiver-Chance-Allen-will-be-eligible-to-play-6305233.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,603 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Quote: "unless he requests to have the waiver....from my one little source, nowheres as good as others... " The thing is, as I understand the new ruling, there are no more waivers. Period. Your 'little source" may be correct for all I know. I'd just like for somebody to post a link stating how and when a waiver is still possible. They wouldn't grant Harding a waiver to play at Tulsa this year so his dying father could see him play. I don't know under what circumstances a guy could get approval to skip his transfer year and play immediately. It won't be called a waiver, the NCAA made that clear. As predicted. Waivers are a thing of the past. Other than for graduated seniors, if you transfer, you sit a year. This was far from certain. Far be it from me to predict the NCAA's decisions, but there have been numerous non-graduate transfer waivers granted in the past few months. http://wvmetronews.c...anks-to-waiver/ http://www.coloradoa...state/28325547/ http://www.chron.com...lay-6305233.php In the first of the above cases, the guy will have already been gone from his prior school for a year when this season starts. The only thing he needed "waived" was getting one year of eligibility tacked onto the end of his "four to play five". The Vandy guy was grey shirted, then redshirted and never played there. In the case of the guy heading to Houston, the NCAA has some explaining to do. I'd like to see the reasoning behind the last two, since they have clearly stated there will be no more of it. In any case, as others have stated, our coaches did not expect Dean to be allowed to play at AU this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,093 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Quote: "unless he requests to have the waiver....from my one little source, nowheres as good as others... " The thing is, as I understand the new ruling, there are no more waivers. Period. Your 'little source" may be correct for all I know. I'd just like for somebody to post a link stating how and when a waiver is still possible. They wouldn't grant Harding a waiver to play at Tulsa this year so his dying father could see him play. I don't know under what circumstances a guy could get approval to skip his transfer year and play immediately. It won't be called a waiver, the NCAA made that clear. As predicted. Waivers are a thing of the past. Other than for graduated seniors, if you transfer, you sit a year. This was far from certain. Far be it from me to predict the NCAA's decisions, but there have been numerous non-graduate transfer waivers granted in the past few months. http://wvmetronews.c...anks-to-waiver/ http://www.coloradoa...state/28325547/ http://www.chron.com...lay-6305233.php Based on the new NCAA rules that were passed in March & referred here many times, none of those waivers should have gone through. The NCAA said the only waivers now available were to get a 6th year to play 4 for undergrad transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTUmike 79 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Quote: "unless he requests to have the waiver....from my one little source, nowheres as good as others... " The thing is, as I understand the new ruling, there are no more waivers. Period. Your 'little source" may be correct for all I know. I'd just like for somebody to post a link stating how and when a waiver is still possible. They wouldn't grant Harding a waiver to play at Tulsa this year so his dying father could see him play. I don't know under what circumstances a guy could get approval to skip his transfer year and play immediately. It won't be called a waiver, the NCAA made that clear. As predicted. Waivers are a thing of the past. Other than for graduated seniors, if you transfer, you sit a year. This was far from certain. Far be it from me to predict the NCAA's decisions, but there have been numerous non-graduate transfer waivers granted in the past few months. http://wvmetronews.c...anks-to-waiver/ http://www.coloradoa...state/28325547/ http://www.chron.com...lay-6305233.php Based on the new NCAA rules that were passed in March & referred here many times, none of those waivers should have gone through. The NCAA said the only waivers now available were to get a 6th year to play 4 for undergrad transfers. Yeah I'm not disputing the rule passed in March--I've never looked at it. But these were just a few cases (sounds like we should exclude the first link) in which waivers were granted after that rule passage, but there are more. So not to beat a dead horse, but because of the situation surrounding the Dean transfer to AU, I though it was at least a 50/50 shot he'd be eligible immediately. Anyway, glad to have him in the rotation next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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