teacher's nude photos stolen from phone

[AUUSN 823]

We'll agree to disagree. There are jobs that require a greater level of accountability. Teacher is one of those jobs.

What if it had been an explicit love letter from her husband that he'd slipped into her bag and she'd discovered right before class and the boy rifled through her papers to find it and share with everyone? I mean, it's not like she was showing the photos off to the students or even told them anything about it. Is there no reasonable expectation of privacy?

She does with the phone in her purse, in the desk drawer or in a locker in the teacher's lounge.

She left a media storage device with pornography stored on it on her desk, in the open with no access restrictions.

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC, and I refuse to go look, but what is your take on Clinton's emails?

Why are you asking as if the two incidents are similar.

[Guest NC1406]

The restrictions you imply are not possible. There are billions of naked pictures and videos on the web that are free. If nudity is the problem he had it all at his disposal anyway.

The teacher left a media storage device on her desk in the open that had pornography stored on it. Had the teacher implimented the passcode, the student wouldnt have accessed it.

What did Hillary do?

[Guest NC1406]

We'll agree to disagree. There are jobs that require a greater level of accountability. Teacher is one of those jobs.

What if it had been an explicit love letter from her husband that he'd slipped into her bag and she'd discovered right before class and the boy rifled through her papers to find it and share with everyone? I mean, it's not like she was showing the photos off to the students or even told them anything about it. Is there no reasonable expectation of privacy?

She does with the phone in her purse, in the desk drawer or in a locker in the teacher's lounge.

She left a media storage device with pornography stored on it on her desk, in the open with no access restrictions.

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC, and I refuse to go look, but what is your take on Clinton's emails?

Why are you asking as if the two incidents are similar.

Both left secure information insecure.

[AUUSN 823]

por·nog·ra·phy

pôrˈnäɡrəfē/

noun

• 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.
  
  

[AUUSN 823]

We'll agree to disagree. There are jobs that require a greater level of accountability. Teacher is one of those jobs.

What if it had been an explicit love letter from her husband that he'd slipped into her bag and she'd discovered right before class and the boy rifled through her papers to find it and share with everyone? I mean, it's not like she was showing the photos off to the students or even told them anything about it. Is there no reasonable expectation of privacy?

She does with the phone in her purse, in the desk drawer or in a locker in the teacher's lounge.

She left a media storage device with pornography stored on it on her desk, in the open with no access restrictions.

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC, and I refuse to go look, but what is your take on Clinton's emails?

Why are you asking as if the two incidents are similar.

Both left secure information insecure.

The cases are not similar in any way.

[Guest NC1406]

We'll agree to disagree. There are jobs that require a greater level of accountability. Teacher is one of those jobs.

What if it had been an explicit love letter from her husband that he'd slipped into her bag and she'd discovered right before class and the boy rifled through her papers to find it and share with everyone? I mean, it's not like she was showing the photos off to the students or even told them anything about it. Is there no reasonable expectation of privacy?

She does with the phone in her purse, in the desk drawer or in a locker in the teacher's lounge.

She left a media storage device with pornography stored on it on her desk, in the open with no access restrictions.

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC, and I refuse to go look, but what is your take on Clinton's emails?

Why are you asking as if the two incidents are similar.

Both left secure information insecure.

The cases are not similar in any way.

If you do not see the correlation then we wasted more tax payer dollars than I previously thought.

[homersapien 11,498]

We'll agree to disagree. There are jobs that require a greater level of accountability. Teacher is one of those jobs.

Well, I have a problem with the idea that picking up someone's phone, turning it on, then searching through it until you find a nude photo equates to "being exposed" to a nude photo by the phone's owner.

I also have a problem with the idea that a nude photo is somehow harming a 16 year old boy.

The fact the phone owner was a teacher and the thief was her student is irrelevant as far as I am concerned.

[homersapien 11,498]

por·nog·ra·phy

pôrˈnäɡrəfē/

noun

• 
  
  
  
  printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.
  
  
  

Seems you are making an assumption about the nature of the photo.

Let's also keep in mind that pornography - if is was such - is perfectly legal and certainly harmless in this case.

[Guest NC1406]

We'll agree to disagree. There are jobs that require a greater level of accountability. Teacher is one of those jobs.

Well, I have a problem with the idea that picking up someone's phone, turning it on, then searching through it until you find a nude photo equates to "being exposed" to a nude photo by the phone's owner.

I also have a problem with the idea that a nude photo is somehow harming a 16 year old boy.

The fact the phone owner was a teacher and the thief was her student is irrelevant as far as I am concerned.

Damn neighbor.....it's rare but I agree with you. Cheers!! Going to pour a damn good scotch in celebration.

[homersapien 11,498]

We'll agree to disagree. There are jobs that require a greater level of accountability. Teacher is one of those jobs.

What if it had been an explicit love letter from her husband that he'd slipped into her bag and she'd discovered right before class and the boy rifled through her papers to find it and share with everyone? I mean, it's not like she was showing the photos off to the students or even told them anything about it. Is there no reasonable expectation of privacy?

She does with the phone in her purse, in the desk drawer or in a locker in the teacher's lounge.

She left a media storage device with pornography stored on it on her desk, in the open with no access restrictions.

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC, and I refuse to go look, but what is your take on Clinton's emails?

Why are you asking as if the two incidents are similar.

Both left secure information insecure.

A nude photo is private information, not security information. The dissemination of the photo harmed only the teacher and no one else. There is no responsibility for the teacher to encrypt it, other than the responsibility to protect herself.

[homersapien 11,498]

We'll agree to disagree. There are jobs that require a greater level of accountability. Teacher is one of those jobs.

Well, I have a problem with the idea that picking up someone's phone, turning it on, then searching through it until you find a nude photo equates to "being exposed" to a nude photo by the phone's owner.

I also have a problem with the idea that a nude photo is somehow harming a 16 year old boy.

The fact the phone owner was a teacher and the thief was her student is irrelevant as far as I am concerned.

Damn neighbor.....it's rare but I agree with you. Cheers!! Going to pour a damn good scotch in celebration.

If that's the result of our agreeing, then I'll try to do you a favor and agree more often.

[AUUSN 823]

Similarly, when school districts hire teachers on a contract, the contract may not clearly spell out absolutely everything that a teacher might do wrong and how the district will respond if that happens. This is in part because no one can guess all the things that could possibly go wrong at the outset and in part because there are more important things to talk about in teacher contracts (like sick leave, salary, resources, etc.). For this reason, teacher contracts have traditionally included what are generally called "moral turpitude" clauses. A "moral turpitude" clause basically means that "anything else that you might do that the community thinks is wrong," like coming to work in a bathrobe and penny loafers, "is probably wrong, and the district can punish you accordingly."

[augolf1716 21,432]

:popcorn:

[Guest NC1406]

We'll agree to disagree. There are jobs that require a greater level of accountability. Teacher is one of those jobs.

Well, I have a problem with the idea that picking up someone's phone, turning it on, then searching through it until you find a nude photo equates to "being exposed" to a nude photo by the phone's owner.

I also have a problem with the idea that a nude photo is somehow harming a 16 year old boy.

The fact the phone owner was a teacher and the thief was her student is irrelevant as far as I am concerned.

Damn neighbor.....it's rare but I agree with you. Cheers!! Going to pour a damn good scotch in celebration.

If that's the result of our agreeing, then I'll try to do you a favor and agree more often.

Please, I need no help in pouring more scotch With that said we all need to move to finding any common ground that is available.

[AUUSN 823]

Denial or Revocation of Teaching Certificate

Courts have held consistently that teaching certificates are not contracts. Thus, requirements to attain or maintain a certificate may be changed and applied to all teachers and prospective teachers. The certification process is administered by state certifying agencies in each state, and most of these agencies have been delegated significant authority with respect to the administration of these rules. Despite this broad delegation, however, the state agencies may not act arbitrarily, nor may these agencies deny or revoke certification on an arbitrary basis. Some state statutes provide that a certificate may be revoked for "just cause." Other common

statutory

grounds include the following:

• Immoral conduct or indecent behavior
  
• Incompetency
  
• Violations of ethical standards
  
• Unprofessional conduct
  
• Misrepresentation or fraud
  
• Willful neglect of duty
  

[AUUSN 823]

Privacy Rights

Teachers enjoy limited rights to personal privacy, though courts will often support disciplinary action taken by a school district when a teacher's private life affects the integrity of the school district or the effectiveness by which a teacher can teach. Thus, for example, a teacher may be terminated from his or her position for such acts as adultery or other sexual conduct outside marriage, and

courts will be hesitant to overrule the decisions of the school board.

[Guest NC1406]

Similarly, when school districts hire teachers on a contract, the contract may not clearly spell out absolutely everything that a teacher might do wrong and how the district will respond if that happens. This is in part because no one can guess all the things that could possibly go wrong at the outset and in part because there are more important things to talk about in teacher contracts (like sick leave, salary, resources, etc.). For this reason, teacher contracts have traditionally included what are generally called "moral turpitude" clauses. A "moral turpitude" clause basically means that "anything else that you might do that the community thinks is wrong," like coming to work in a bathrobe and penny loafers, "is probably wrong, and the district can punish you accordingly."

My wife stopped teaching two years before retirement. It was a personal decision and she had just been awarded teacher of the year 24 months before. The fact you hold teachers to a higher standard than our SOS makes me even more proud of her decision.

[AUUSN 823]

Similarly, when school districts hire teachers on a contract, the contract may not clearly spell out absolutely everything that a teacher might do wrong and how the district will respond if that happens. This is in part because no one can guess all the things that could possibly go wrong at the outset and in part because there are more important things to talk about in teacher contracts (like sick leave, salary, resources, etc.). For this reason, teacher contracts have traditionally included what are generally called "moral turpitude" clauses. A "moral turpitude" clause basically means that "anything else that you might do that the community thinks is wrong," like coming to work in a bathrobe and penny loafers, "is probably wrong, and the district can punish you accordingly."

My wife stopped teaching two years before retirement. It was a personal decision and she had just been awarded teacher of the year 24 months before. The fact you hold teachers to a higher standard than our SOS makes me even more proud of her decision.

Dude follow the discussion or leave me alone.

I'm discussing teachers and their special conditions of employment.

Go find Raptor if you want to discuss Clinton.

[wdefromtx 3,159]

por·nog·ra·phy

pôrˈnäɡrəfē/

noun

• 
  
  
  
  printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.
  
  
  

Seems you are making an assumption about the nature of the photo.

Let's also keep in mind that pornography - if is was such - is perfectly legal and certainly harmless in this case.

Based on this definition, I'd guess there would be a lot of teachers that would need to be fired if they accidentally left their Kindle Books out.

[Guest NC1406]

Similarly, when school districts hire teachers on a contract, the contract may not clearly spell out absolutely everything that a teacher might do wrong and how the district will respond if that happens. This is in part because no one can guess all the things that could possibly go wrong at the outset and in part because there are more important things to talk about in teacher contracts (like sick leave, salary, resources, etc.). For this reason, teacher contracts have traditionally included what are generally called "moral turpitude" clauses. A "moral turpitude" clause basically means that "anything else that you might do that the community thinks is wrong," like coming to work in a bathrobe and penny loafers, "is probably wrong, and the district can punish you accordingly."

My wife stopped teaching two years before retirement. It was a personal decision and she had just been awarded teacher of the year 24 months before. The fact you hold teachers to a higher standard than our SOS makes me even more proud of her decision.

Dude follow the discussion or leave me alone.

I'm discussing teachers and their special conditions of employment.

Go find Raptor if you want to discuss Clinton.

I have not attacked you personally. Not sure why you feel I should find Raptor to discuss professional standards. You need to observe the larger picture of this situation. I am not specifically talking about Clinton, but if we expect teachers to respect certain operating procedures. Then I really have to tell you that I expect private industry and high level government officials to uphold and exceed the same standards. You can't support one and condemn the other.

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

Denial or Revocation of Teaching Certificate

Courts have held consistently that teaching certificates are not contracts. Thus, requirements to attain or maintain a certificate may be changed and applied to all teachers and prospective teachers. The certification process is administered by state certifying agencies in each state, and most of these agencies have been delegated significant authority with respect to the administration of these rules. Despite this broad delegation, however, the state agencies may not act arbitrarily, nor may these agencies deny or revoke certification on an arbitrary basis. Some state statutes provide that a certificate may be revoked for "just cause." Other common

statutory

grounds include the following:

• Immoral conduct or indecent behavior
  
• Incompetency
  
• Violations of ethical standards
  
• Unprofessional conduct
  
• Misrepresentation or fraud
  
• Willful neglect of duty
  

Please explain to me why it is immoral or indecent for a married woman to share a private nude photo with her husband?

If the teen had jumped the fence of their backyard, pushed away bushes, and found a way to peer into their bedroom and found her posing nude for him then are you saying the same? Cause in both cases the student invaded her property, searched inside that property, and witnessed a private moment of a married couple.

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

Privacy Rights

Teachers enjoy limited rights to personal privacy, though courts will often support disciplinary action taken by a school district when a teacher's private life affects the integrity of the school district or the effectiveness by which a teacher can teach. Thus, for example, a teacher may be terminated from his or her position for such acts as adultery or other sexual conduct outside marriage, and

courts will be hesitant to overrule the decisions of the school board.

por·nog·ra·phy

pôrˈnäɡrəfē/

noun

• 
  
  
  
  printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.
  
  

Seems you are making an assumption about the nature of the photo.

Let's also keep in mind that pornography - if is was such - is perfectly legal and certainly harmless in this case.

Based on this definition, I'd guess there would be a lot of teachers that would need to be fired if they accidentally left their Kindle Books out.

50 Shades of Fired.

[wdefromtx 3,159]

Privacy Rights

Teachers enjoy limited rights to personal privacy, though courts will often support disciplinary action taken by a school district when a teacher's private life affects the integrity of the school district or the effectiveness by which a teacher can teach. Thus, for example, a teacher may be terminated from his or her position for such acts as adultery or other sexual conduct outside marriage, and

courts will be hesitant to overrule the decisions of the school board.

por·nog·ra·phy

pôrˈnäɡrəfē/

noun

• 
  
  
  
  printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.
  
  

Seems you are making an assumption about the nature of the photo.

Let's also keep in mind that pornography - if is was such - is perfectly legal and certainly harmless in this case.

Based on this definition, I'd guess there would be a lot of teachers that would need to be fired if they accidentally left their Kindle Books out.

50 Shades of Fired.

Exactly.

[AUUSN 823]

Denial or Revocation of Teaching Certificate

Courts have held consistently that teaching certificates are not contracts. Thus, requirements to attain or maintain a certificate may be changed and applied to all teachers and prospective teachers. The certification process is administered by state certifying agencies in each state, and most of these agencies have been delegated significant authority with respect to the administration of these rules. Despite this broad delegation, however, the state agencies may not act arbitrarily, nor may these agencies deny or revoke certification on an arbitrary basis. Some state statutes provide that a certificate may be revoked for "just cause." Other common

statutory

grounds include the following:

• Immoral conduct or indecent behavior
  
• Incompetency
  
• Violations of ethical standards
  
• Unprofessional conduct
  
• Misrepresentation or fraud
  
• Willful neglect of duty
  

Please explain to me why it is immoral or indecent for a married woman to share a private nude photo with her husband?

If the teen had jumped the fence of their backyard, pushed away bushes, and found a way to peer into their bedroom and found her posing nude for him then are you saying the same? Cause in both cases the student invaded her property, searched inside that property, and witnessed a private moment of a married couple.

It's not and that's not the reason for her dismissal.

[Guest NC1406]

Denial or Revocation of Teaching Certificate

Courts have held consistently that teaching certificates are not contracts. Thus, requirements to attain or maintain a certificate may be changed and applied to all teachers and prospective teachers. The certification process is administered by state certifying agencies in each state, and most of these agencies have been delegated significant authority with respect to the administration of these rules. Despite this broad delegation, however, the state agencies may not act arbitrarily, nor may these agencies deny or revoke certification on an arbitrary basis. Some state statutes provide that a certificate may be revoked for "just cause." Other common

statutory

grounds include the following:

• Immoral conduct or indecent behavior
  
• Incompetency
  
• Violations of ethical standards
  
• Unprofessional conduct
  
• Misrepresentation or fraud
  
• Willful neglect of duty
  

Please explain to me why it is immoral or indecent for a married woman to share a private nude photo with her husband?

If the teen had jumped the fence of their backyard, pushed away bushes, and found a way to peer into their bedroom and found her posing nude for him then are you saying the same? Cause in both cases the student invaded her property, searched inside that property, and witnessed a private moment of a married couple.

It's not and that's not the reason for her dismissal.

Okay, she violated her contract, would you hire her for another position of equal or even more importance? Let's say she ran for Superintendent of Schools? Is she suitable for this job?