TexasTiger 12,897 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 We're asked to respect the Office when the person who will hold it considers it a step down: " Jennifer Jacobs– Verified account @JenniferJJacobs Trump made "enormous sacrifices," Conway said. "He actually gave up more money, more power, more prestige, more position than he will have." 5:17 AM - 20 Jan 2017 179 RETWEETS243 LIKES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: We're asked to respect the Office when the person who will hold it considers it a step down: " Jennifer Jacobs– Verified account @JenniferJJacobs Trump made "enormous sacrifices," Conway said. "He actually gave up more money, more power, more prestige, more position than he will have." 5:17 AM - 20 Jan 2017 179 RETWEETS243 LIKES Actually, yes. He didn't HAVE to do this. He's 70 years old. He could have just chosen to play golf and jet around the world w/ his model wife. Now, if you really want to take a step down, from a higher pace , like Obama... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,897 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Just now, AURaptor said: Actually, yes. He didn't HAVE to do this. He's 70 years old. He could have just chosen to play golf and jet around the world w/ his model wife. Now, if you really want to take a step down, from a higher pace , like Obama... Either respond to the actual comment or go away. "He actually gave up more money, more power, more prestige, more position than he will have." So this is your belief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 minute ago, TexasTiger said: Either respond to the actual comment or go away. "He actually gave up more money, more power, more prestige, more position than he will have." So this is your belief? It's a mixed bag. The 'salary ' of President , which he has said he won't take, and will donate , vs having to step down from his position in private business, yes. Prestige ? Objectively, he's now part of an incredibly elite # of Americans. So no. But he'll take far more abuse from the media and the public than he would had he remained a private citizen. Power ? No. Being CiC wields enormous power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaturdayGT 719 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 If he feels its a step down, thats a good thing. Makes it seem like hes in it for us rather than himself to me. Id rather it be that way, than the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Did Trump say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 hour ago, TexasTiger said: We're asked to respect the Office when the person who will hold it considers it a step down: " Jennifer Jacobs– Verified account @JenniferJJacobs Trump made "enormous sacrifices," Conway said. "He actually gave up more money, more power, more prestige, more position than he will have." 5:17 AM - 20 Jan 2017 179 RETWEETS243 LIKES I have ZERO respect for Trump. And anyone who believes that he gave up more money, more power and more prestige as a sacrifice to lead this country is someone whose ignorance is bigger than Trump's ego. He isn't divesting, he is sacrificing nothing. This is all about his ego and quite possibly about how much control Russia has over his financial security. My disgust for Trump goes beyond my dislike or disagreements with Republican politics. He is a complete waste of oxygen and unfit for such a noble office. I do not accept him as my president and never will. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,534 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said: My disgust for Trump goes beyond my dislike or disagreements with Republican politics. He is a complete waste of oxygen and unfit for such a noble office. I do not accept him as my president and never will. Those views are just as devisive as the ones you hate from Trump. Many of us don't like him personally, but that does not negate his position nor our ability to recognize it. Your unwillingness to support the position of president seems bitter and juvenile. I personally hope he is a roaring success. I don't hope that because I like him but because I love America. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDavE 332 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said: I have ZERO respect for Trump. And anyone who believes that he gave up more money, more power and more prestige as a sacrifice to lead this country is someone whose ignorance is bigger than Trump's ego. He isn't divesting, he is sacrificing nothing. This is all about his ego and quite possibly about how much control Russia has over his financial security. My disgust for Trump goes beyond my dislike or disagreements with Republican politics. He is a complete waste of oxygen and unfit for such a noble office. I do not accept him as my president and never will. I was hoping he would list Hillary's redeeming qualities. Should have taken three words or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,483 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 He gave up more money and perhaps more autonomy. He did not give up more power, prestige or position. Not even close. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: He gave up more money and perhaps more autonomy. He did not give up more power, prestige or position. Not even close. Well yeah, running for offìce IS sorta asking for it... losing autonomy is a trade off, though. And not just for 4 - 8 years either. Trump is the 1st citizen ( non gov employee ) to ascend to the WH since... George Washington. pretty damn historic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,483 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 minute ago, AURaptor said: Well yeah, running for offìce IS sorta asking for it... losing autonomy is a trade off, though. And not just for 4 - 8 years either. Trump is the 1st citizen ( non gov employee ) to ascend to the WH since... George Washington. pretty damn historic Wasn't Washington technically a gov't employee too? Previous job: Commander in Chief of the Continental Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Continental Army... not a US govt thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Continental Army... not a US govt thing. But if you want to claim that, then Donald Trump really is the first citizen president – ever! !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, GiveEmElle said: I have ZERO respect for Trump. And anyone who believes that he gave up more money, more power and more prestige as a sacrifice to lead this country is someone whose ignorance is bigger than Trump's ego. He isn't divesting, he is sacrificing nothing. This is all about his ego and quite possibly about how much control Russia has over his financial security. My disgust for Trump goes beyond my dislike or disagreements with Republican politics. He is a complete waste of oxygen and unfit for such a noble office. I do not accept him as my president and never will. Poor baby. I'm going to enjoy you liberals whining for the next 8 years, especially liberal women like you. Hillary lost. Get over it.........but wait I forgot you can't. So wallow in your agony. Edited January 20, 2017 by Proud Tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,483 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, AURaptor said: Continental Army... not a US govt thing. But if you want to claim that, then Donald Trump really is the first citizen president – ever! !! That's what I was saying. He's the first person elected as president to have zero prior experience working for or in the government here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I consider that a big plus and he is surrounding himself with a great team of successful people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 It's picking nits , I suppose, but the current form of govt, based on the Constitution... G Washington did not serve under until he was elected President. He was a general in AN army... just not this one as it existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,483 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Proud Tiger said: I consider that a big plus and he is surrounding himself with a great team of successful people. I see it as neutral, but interesting nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Time will tell. Remember Jimmy Carter and his cabinet. I voted for him and we know how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,897 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 hour ago, bigbird said: Those views are just as devisive as the ones you hate from Trump. Many of us don't like him personally, but that does not negate his position nor our ability to recognize it. Your unwillingness to support the position of president seems bitter and juvenile. I personally hope he is a roaring success. I don't hope that because I like him but because I love America. The point is he doesn't respect it-- he thinks it's a step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I guess that's your opinion and not fact because I haven't heard him say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: The point is he doesn't respect it-- he thinks it's a step down. He did not say that, did he? Conway made that remark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 2 hours ago, GiveEmElle said: I have ZERO respect for Trump. And anyone who believes that he gave up more money, more power and more prestige as a sacrifice to lead this country is someone whose ignorance is bigger than Trump's ego. He isn't divesting, he is sacrificing nothing. This is all about his ego and quite possibly about how much control Russia has over his financial security. My disgust for Trump goes beyond my dislike or disagreements with Republican politics. He is a complete waste of oxygen and unfit for such a noble office. I do not accept him as my president and never will. I understand your feelings. However, I believe in respect to what is left of our democracy, we should at least give him a chance. Don't forget, the other choice wasn't exactly a gem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1 hour ago, bigbird said: Those views are just as devisive as the ones you hate from Trump. Many of us don't like him personally, but that does not negate his position nor our ability to recognize it. Your unwillingness to support the position of president seems bitter and juvenile. I personally hope he is a roaring success. I don't hope that because I like him but because I love America. I cannot in good conscious support a man who openly mocked a disabled man, then denied he did it. I cannot support a man who thinks that when you're powerful you can grab a woman's genitalia without her consent. I cannot support a man who incited violence at his rallies while he spoke of Hispanics in a deragatory mannercalking them rapists and thugs. I cannot support a man who wants to police religions. I cannot support a man who degrades a POW for being captured and insults a gold star family. I cannot support a man who says companies in America shouldn't outsource to other countries while he himself outsources everything from shirts and ties to hookers. I'm glad you picked up on the devisive tone because I want a great DIVIDE between myself and that kind of misogynistic, racist, xenophobic behavior. I have no desire to associate with it. Bitter, maybe a little since TWICE in my presidential voting life a democrat has won the popular vote and lost the WHITE HOUSE. Now let's address juvenile shall we? I find it worth noting that you haven't frequented this forum until just recently and it's been to promote your "Trump disgusts me, BUT" agenda and to snidely insult those of us who do speak out against him. Your concern for keeping us respectful of the office of the presidency didn't seem to exist when the right wing nuts were attacking our former President. So you can call me whatever name you like because I don't support Trump, I really don't care. But know this, I'm capable of giving credit when it's due but Trump has done nothing yet to get credit. And considering his past actions and his cabinet appointments, it doesn't look like he will. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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