homersapien 11,373 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 15 hours ago, AURaptor said: Why WOULD HE ? You're not getting, it, homer. KENNEDY actually was responsible ! Not anyone else. Here, TRUMP is having to defend from 100% bull stories ! The 2 aren't even comparable ! I'm not getting it? Trump is actually responsible also. What percent of the negative stories about Trump are fake? Why is he reacting by attacking the press as an institution instead of individually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, homersapien said: I'm not getting it? Trump is actually responsible also. What percent of the negative stories about Trump are fake? Why is he reacting by attacking the press - as an institution instead of individually - because of these fake stories. 90 ? Yeah. About that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Grumps said: You make a great point. Trump should be more specific about who is creating fake news. Much of the issue, to me, is the motivation behind the comments. I happen to believe (maybe it's the Kool-Aid) that the media has an agenda with its reporting other than reporting the facts and trying to make money for their companies. I think he was specific. He listed all three major networks, CNN and the NYT. Are news agencies biased? Of course. Are they all conspiring to delegitimize Trump? No, he is doing that all by himself. He only labels a news organization as FAKE if they criticize him. Every president in my lifetime has faced criticism. It comes with the territory of being leader of the free world. It's way past time for Trump to grow up and face criticism without crying about being treated unfairly. I'm just not convinced his narcissism will allow that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 4 hours ago, AUUSN said: Trump, who is the President and a federal employee specifically called the press an enemy of the people. Slow down and digest that. Calling them out on their dishonesty is one thing, calling them the enemy is the other. If you are unable to separate the two, we are done here. Based on the information on this thread it is absolutely a lie for you to say that he called the press an enemy of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 2,231 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 5 hours ago, AUUSN said: Every president receives criticism at one time or another during their term(s), so that's not really the problem is it? The issue here is criticism of the press -- and whether or not it's deserved. A recent Gallup poll suggests that less than 1/3 of respondents have any trust in reporting of mass media. And CBS anchor & Face The Nation host Josh Dickerson admitted that President Trump is somewhat correct in that press ruined their own reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, Grumps said: Based on the information on this thread it is absolutely a lie for you to say that he called the press an enemy of the people. Go read his tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, AUloggerhead said: Every president receives criticism at one time or another during their term(s), so that's not really the problem is it? The issue here is criticism of the press -- and whether or not it's deserved. A recent Gallup poll suggests that less than 1/3 of respondents have any trust in reporting of mass media. And CBS anchor & Face The Nation host Josh Dickerson admitted that President Trump is somewhat correct in that press ruined their own reputation. I've already stated that calling the media out is one thing but calling them an enemy of the people is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 54 minutes ago, Grumps said: Based on the information on this thread it is absolutely a lie for you to say that he called the press an enemy of the people. Now that's equivalent to KellyAnne saying alternative facts. Trump tweeted that the press was an enemy of the people. It's his words, not anyone here's words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 39 minutes ago, AUUSN said: Go read his tweet. Here is the tweet, just as you posted it: The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People! I don't know how to read the tweet any way except as you posted it. This means that the FAKE NEWS media is the enemy of the American people. You don't really think that "FAKE NEWS media" is the same thing as the "press". It seems that you are too biased to read the tweet as it is written. There are so many TRUE things for you to bash Trump on, so why do you insist on bashing him for the FALSE things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said: Now that's equivalent to KellyAnne saying alternative facts. Trump tweeted that the press was an enemy of the people. It's his words, not anyone here's words. Would you please link the tweet so that I can have the facts and then offer my proper apology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 30 minutes ago, Grumps said: Here is the tweet, just as you posted it: The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People! I don't know how to read the tweet any way except as you posted it. This means that the FAKE NEWS media is the enemy of the American people. You don't really think that "FAKE NEWS media" is the same thing as the "press". It seems that you are too biased to read the tweet as it is written. There are so many TRUE things for you to bash Trump on, so why do you insist on bashing him for the FALSE things? Good luck with that. He doesn't get to define fake news, whatever that stupid a$$ term means. He said media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,876 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 47 minutes ago, Grumps said: Here is the tweet, just as you posted it: The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People! I don't know how to read the tweet any way except as you posted it. This means that the FAKE NEWS media is the enemy of the American people. You don't really think that "FAKE NEWS media" is the same thing as the "press". It seems that you are too biased to read the tweet as it is written. There are so many TRUE things for you to bash Trump on, so why do you insist on bashing him for the FALSE things? Wow. Just wow at the verbal gymnastics you engage in. Kellyanne can hand you the mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: Wow. Just wow at the verbal gymnastics you engage in. Kellyanne can hand you the mic. Exactly. You guys disregard any of the words in the tweet that you don't like and then accuse me of verbal gymnastics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,876 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Grumps said: Exactly. You guys disregard any of the words in the tweet that you don't like and then accuse me of verbal gymnastics. Ok, Kellyanne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,366 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I don't think Trump is that intelligent to imply the meaning that Grumps is taking it as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 When Trump SAYS " FAKE " news, he's talking about ALL Press. But when Obama says there are 57 states, or that the White House is " MY house ", ....that's just whacky nonsense !! Don't take the President LITERALLY !! Right ? Well, never take Trump literally. But always know what Obama " meant " to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveEmElle 1,559 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Grumps said: Would you please link the tweet so that I can have the facts and then offer my proper apology? While he uses the word fake, he then lists credible media sources then says they are enemies of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, GiveEmElle said: While he uses the word fake, he then lists credible media sources then says they are enemies of the people. credible news sources who have all been caught dealing in FAKE news. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Are any news outlets "real"? To conservatives? This idiot criticized fox worse than any during primaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, alexava said: Are any news outlets "real"? To conservatives? This idiot criticized fox worse than any during primaries. Pretty sure it was Megyn Kelly he criticized, with blood coming out of her..where ever. She's no longer at FOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Just now, AURaptor said: Pretty sure it was Megyn Kelly he criticized, with blood coming out of her..where ever. She's no longer at FOX. No. It was before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, alexava said: No. It was before that. Very well. I guess saying mean things is = to trying to box them out of the WH press pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 14 hours ago, AURaptor said: 90 ? Yeah. About that much. How about identifying three (3)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Grumps said: Exactly. You guys disregard any of the words in the tweet that you don't like and then accuse me of verbal gymnastics. Well I don't think you'reusing "verbal gymnastics". I think you are totally delusional. Trump tweeted the press - or at least the press that is critical of him - is an enemy of the people. You are apparently susceptible to "alternative facts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 8 hours ago, AURaptor said: When Trump SAYS " FAKE " news, he's talking about ALL Press. But when Obama says there are 57 states, or that the White House is " MY house ", ....that's just whacky nonsense !! Don't take the President LITERALLY !! Right ? Well, never take Trump literally. But always know what Obama " meant " to say... OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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