autig90 67 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 14 hours ago, AUIH1 said: corchjay, I have been on AU message boards since the late 90's. I have seen tons of "insiders" come and go and my give a damn about their feelings as what I think of their "insiderness" has been long gone. 23 just plain missed on his inside info on JFIII when it was pretty obvious to anyone watching a heavily edited reality show on Netflix that JFIII should have never been offered at a scholly at AU for any position, much less as a possible starting QB. The fact that 23 doubled down on his opinion that JFIII was the best QB on the team last season after fall practice, just further demonstrated how "deeply involved" insiders can be totally wrong. wde I think you are a bit harsh on 23. From what I remember, he did not 'miss'. He was pretty consistent in saying that JF3 was being given every chance to win the QB job, and that Gus seemed to want him to win it due to his running ability. I imagine this was true because Gus was hoping to catch lightning in a bottle again a la NM. It didn't work out. Move on. I wish JF3 all the best. Seems like a good kid since he came to AU, and I'm proud of him for getting his degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jAUSon 2,836 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Lots of "qb busts" out there on every team. But most programs keep them off the field. Best of luck JF3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 10 hours ago, AdamsHouseCat said: I have felt in recent years we have been overly guilty of telegraphing our intentions based on our personnel packages. JF3 on the field in 2017 would do that. If, and I have to stress if, he could reliably catch the ball he would have been a formidable weapon, because no matter what the play, the D would be forced to keep a man on him to keep him from burning everyone over the top, thus removing that defender from the play. Unfortunately, word was that he was unreliable in that regard, so it was a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, autig90 said: I think you are a bit harsh on 23. From what I remember, he did not 'miss'. He was pretty consistent in saying that JF3 was being given every chance to win the QB job, and that Gus seemed to want him to win it due to his running ability. I imagine this was true because Gus was hoping to catch lightning in a bottle again a la NM. Exactly. It's not like Franklin didn't have skills. We all saw his ability with the long ball last year, and his ability to burn up the field in the read option. What likely wasn't seen in practice (thanks to protecting the QB) was that he didn't protect the ball in traffic. Had that not have been an issue, we might have seen more of Marshall 2.0 last year. Had he been solid at protecting the football, we could have probably done well with a read option package that included a few long balls to keep the D honest. I would not be surprised at all to hear that he lands on lower level team in need of a QB and puts up some crazy numbers against similar level opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abw0004 10,112 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 I don't know why everyone is attacking each other on here. We are all on the same team, and it is not why I created this thread. If the moderators don't stop some of this I will have to delete my thread. I do not want to be a source for people to direct insults and hate at one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 12 hours ago, cole256 said: Being quick and fast two different things. You really don't have to be super fast to be a corner. The faster you are really just helps you be able to cover mistakes. You don't have to be physical to play corner either. Well in most schemes. If Franklin had good instincts and could cover nobody would say we don't want you because you can't hit..... Exactly. Straight line speed is good once you've gotten beat and have to recover. Quick hips, feet, and hands are more valued to me than elite straightline speed. With quickness you are able to stay in phase much longer and stay on the receiver's hip much closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 42 minutes ago, abw0004 said: I don't know why everyone is attacking each other on here. We are all on the same team, and it is not why I created this thread. If the moderators don't stop some of this I will have to delete my thread. I do not want to be a source for people to direct insults and hate at one another. You could create a thread about rainbows and puppy dogs and some people around here would find a way to throw some hate around on it. It's just the way some people are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, abw0004 said: I don't know why everyone is attacking each other on here. We are all on the same team, and it is not why I created this thread. If the moderators don't stop some of this I will have to delete my thread. I do not want to be a source for people to direct insults and hate at one another. I blame @lionheartkc. What a jerkwad. Always getting all bent out of shape and calling names. It wouldn't surprise me if he kicks puppies if I'm being totally honest with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, McLoofus said: I blame @lionheartkc. What a jerkwad. Always getting all bent out of shape and calling names. It wouldn't surprise me if he kicks puppies if I'm being totally honest with you. *sigh*... I know... I totally need to get some professional help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abw0004 10,112 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 hours ago, lionheartkc said: You could create a thread about rainbows and puppy dogs and some people around here would find a way to throw some hate around on it. It's just the way some people are. This is my reaction when I read the posts from those people: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 23 hours ago, WFE12 said: "Former "Last Chance U" star..." Kind of a crappy way to put it, and I'd hate for John to be remembered that way. I hope he lights it up at FAU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,982 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 hours ago, lionheartkc said: Exactly. It's not like Franklin didn't have skills. We all saw his ability with the long ball last year, and his ability to burn up the field in the read option. What likely wasn't seen in practice (thanks to protecting the QB) was that he didn't protect the ball in traffic. Had that not have been an issue, we might have seen more of Marshall 2.0 last year. Had he been solid at protecting the football, we could have probably done well with a read option package that included a few long balls to keep the D honest. I would not be surprised at all to hear that he lands on lower level team in need of a QB and puts up some crazy numbers against similar level opponents. Franklin will not be playing QB at FAU. They have a legit stud at QB who is only there due to a past aggression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKEEL75 2,566 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, DAG said: Franklin will not be playing QB at FAU. They have a legit stud at QB who is only there due to a past aggression This is absolutely correct! JFIII will be a WR\KR\PR or something of that nature. Or maybe 2nd QB. The kids at QB is a baller and made a big mistake years ago that landed him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, DAG said: Franklin will not be playing QB at FAU. They have a legit stud at QB who is only there due to a past aggression Is he for certain going to FAU? I thought that was just people joking around because of Kiffin. Guess it would help if I read the post above yours, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,982 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, lionheartkc said: Is he for certain going to FAU? I thought that was just people joking around because of Kiffin. I don't know if this suppose to be yellow font or not but he is going to FAU. They already have a QB who originally signed to FSU... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, DAG said: I don't know if this suppose to be yellow font or not but he is going to FAU. They already have a QB who originally signed to FSU... No yellow font. I was just in meetings when the post about his destination made it to this thread, so I had to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, DAG said: I don't know if this suppose to be yellow font or not but he is going to FAU. They already have a QB who originally signed to FSU... I think that information might lead someone to believe that he wouldn't actually be going to FAU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triangletiger 1,599 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, lkeel75 said: This is absolutely correct! JFIII will be a WR\KR\PR or something of that nature. Or maybe 2nd QB. The kids at QB is a baller and made a big mistake years ago that landed him there. De'Andre Johnson. He's the guy who was raked over the coals in the media for punching the girl in the Tallahassee bar. I'd say he's learned his lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKEEL75 2,566 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, triangletiger said: De'Andre Johnson. He's the guy who was raked over the coals in the media for punching the girl in the Tallahassee bar. I'd say he's learned his lesson. Seemed like in LCU-2. Kid seemed legit talent and sincerely regretful for the situation he put himself in and what he did. Of course that could all just be editing as well. Who knows. While I never hit a girl (or woman), I would hate to be judged for the rest of my days based on something that I did at 17\18 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,123 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 21 hours ago, cole256 said: This may be harsh but I said it and now I feel even better about our wr's. I said that if jf3 can come in and earn playing time in our wr rotation we weren't very good. He wanted playing time, wasn't any to go around with us and I'm happy about that. Now two years ago he probably would've gotten playing time. Testament to that recruiting class....we have upped our talent level since then. yes you did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,982 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Barnacle said: I think that information might lead someone to believe that he wouldn't actually be going to FAU. I don't think JF3 expects to play QB, more so, he wants a chance to show what he can do on the offensive end of the ball, including WR/Returner. Plus, he will be closer to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,059 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 6 hours ago, lkeel75 said: Seemed like in LCU-2. Kid seemed legit talent and sincerely regretful for the situation he put himself in and what he did. Of course that could all just be editing as well. Who knows. While I never hit a girl (or woman), I would hate to be judged for the rest of my days based on something that I did at 17\18 years old Especially when the woman started hitting you first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Best wishes to JF3. I hope he does well where ever he lands. He has an AU degree and that makes him a winner no matter what happens with football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully to Beasley 643 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I wish John all the best. He is an Auburn man who holds an Auburn degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Freak 2,528 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm not seeing JF3 or De'Andre playing QB tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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