around4ever 4,139 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 7 hours ago, channonc said: More tone deafness from the first family. One question: where is Melania's staff? MIA? LINK I don't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,631 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 8 hours ago, channonc said: More tone deafness from the first family. One question: where is Melania's staff? MIA? LINK Quote from the link: " .....although it's worth mentioning that the First Lady didn't wear it in Texas or anywhere close to the immigrant facility". Tone deaf? I don't think so. The jacket is directed at the press, who richly deserves the remark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,874 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 7 hours ago, NolaAuTiger said: He said that Sandra had always wanted to experience 'the American dream' and hoped to find a good job in the States. But not the legit way obviously... I wanna be a millionaire, guess I should rob a bank instead of working. If I'm caught tons of tards will cry for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolaAuTiger 3,295 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 17 hours ago, channonc said: More tone deafness from the first family. One question: where is Melania's staff? MIA? LINK Fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 4 hours ago, NolaAuTiger said: Fake news It's not fake. She chose to wear the jacket on a trip to see the immigrant situation at the border for herself. I've heard the post-facto explanation about what the message meant. Even if true, that only makes channoc's question even more applicable. Where is her staff to tell her that this moment is a *really* bad time to wear that jacket. Save it for another occasion. It's going to be interpreted differently than you think and is a very bad look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolaAuTiger 3,295 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: It's not fake. She chose to wear the jacket on a trip to see the immigrant situation at the border for herself. I've heard the post-facto explanation about what the message meant. Even if true, that only makes channoc's question even more applicable. Where is her staff to tell her that this moment is a *really* bad time to wear that jacket. Save it for another occasion. It's going to be interpreted differently than you think and is a very bad look. She's hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said: She's hot Ivanka's hotter, but yes. But still, not fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolaAuTiger 3,295 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just now, TitanTiger said: Ivanka's hotter, but yes. But still, not fake news. Of course it's not fake news that she's hot Anyways, not like the media would be falling at her feet and praising her otherwise. They hate the Trump family. Water under the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just now, NolaAuTiger said: Of course it's not fake news that she's hot Anyways, not like the media would be falling at her feet and praising her otherwise. They hate the Trump family. Water under the bridge. I think the point you're missing is that even if she wasn't wearing the jacket as a commentary on the immigrant children being separated from families, it was a terrible decision on her part and a terrible fail on her staff's part. In fact, if I were on her staff and in charge of such things and she refused to use a different jacket after pointing this out to her, I'd quit. I can't work for someone that stupid. So at best, it's terrible optics. At worst, it's calloused and repulsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 minute ago, TitanTiger said: I think the point you're missing is that even if she wasn't wearing the jacket as a commentary on the immigrant children being separated from families, it was a terrible decision on her part and a terrible fail on her staff's part. In fact, if I were on her staff and in charge of such things and she refused to use a different jacket after pointing this out to her, I'd quit. I can't work for someone that stupid. So at best, it's terrible optics. At worst, it's calloused and repulsive. NO it's not if it is aimed at calloused and repulsive Trump haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: NO it's not if it is aimed at calloused and repulsive Trump haters. You need to read more closely. I'll explain a bit more clearly: "at best, it's terrible optics" = Melania wore it not to take shots at the immigrant children situation, but to take a shot at the media over Trump coverage. If that's the case, it's still terrible optics - a really bad look. She should have known better. -OR- "at worst it's calloused and repulsive" = The explanation that it was aimed at the media is bull**** and it was a shot at the immigrant children situation. If that's the case it's calloused and repulsive. She should have known better and she's a truly awful person. It's a choice. The best light this can possibly be cast in is that it was a mistake on her part to miss how that would be interpreted. The worst case scenario is that she's an a**hole. Understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolaAuTiger 3,295 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: In fact, if I were on her staff and in charge of such things and she refused to use a different jacket after pointing this out to her, I'd quit. I can't work for someone that stupid. haha if i was in charge of what she wore.... nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: You need to read more closely. I'll explain a bit more clearly: "at best, it's terrible optics" = Melania wore it not to take shots at the immigrant children situation, but to take a shot at the media over Trump coverage. If that's the case, it's still terrible optics - a really bad look. She should have known better. -OR- "at worst it's calloused and repulsive" = The explanation that it was aimed at the media is bull**** and it was a shot at the immigrant children situation. If that's the case it's calloused and repulsive. She should have known better and she's a truly awful person. It's a choice. The best light this can possibly be cast in is that it was a mistake on her part to miss how that would be interpreted. The worst case scenario is that she's an a**hole. Understand? I clearly understand.......we disagree and you will post until hell freezes over to challenge my OPINION. So carry on if you like. My opinion stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said: haha if i was in charge of what she wore.... nvm Yeah, yeah. Funny. You know what I'm saying. The First Lady, the President, et all have staff people who have as one of their main responsibilities that they pay attention to optics for public events. Any time the President or First Lady are going to be seen, ESPECIALLY if it's a public event on a hot button political issue, these people advise on everything from what they should wear, to who they should acknowledge first, to whether they should speak to reporters, to anything visual about the event. Bad optics will drown out good audio and information 9 times out of 10. So yes, there is someone on that staff who pays attention to such things and I will almost guarantee you they told her that jacket was a bad idea for this event and she didn't listen. Or she snuck that jacket out and surprised that staff member. I were that staff member, I'd quit on the spot. On the off chance that person on her staff saw the coat and said nothing, the First Lady should fire their ass yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: I clearly understand.......we disagree and you will post until hell freezes over to challenge my OPINION. So carry on if you like. My opinion stands. No you don't. If you did the above response wouldn't have been typed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,392 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Well, at least the response pattern by Trumpbots is consistent: First, fake news! It didn't happen. Then, well, it happened, but the anti-Trump media misrepresented what it really meant, which was < insert whatever lame excuse that the Trump staff could come up with>. Finally, this just proves the media hates trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolaAuTiger 3,295 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, homersapien said: Well, at least the response pattern by Trumpbots is consistent: First, fake news! It didn't happen. Then, well, it happened, but the anti-Trump media misrepresented what it really meant, which was < insert whatever lame excuse that the Trump staff could come up with>. Finally, this just proves the media hates trump. Fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, homersapien said: Well, at least the response pattern by Trumpbots is consistent: First, fake news! It didn't happen. Then, well, it happened, but the anti-Trump media misrepresented what it really meant, which was < insert whatever lame excuse that the Trump staff could come up with>. Finally, this just proves the media hates trump. Almost verbatim. Predictability off the charts. Atomic clocks have nothing on these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 21 hours ago, RunInRed said: Roasted The child's dad refutes this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/22/crying-migrant-girl-on-time-magazine-cover-was-not-separated-from-mother-family-says.html But Time won't back down. Can't admit their mistake apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,631 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, TitanTiger said: I think the point you're missing is that even if she wasn't wearing the jacket as a commentary on the immigrant children being separated from families, it was a terrible decision on her part and a terrible fail on her staff's part. In fact, if I were on her staff and in charge of such things and she refused to use a different jacket after pointing this out to her, I'd quit. I can't work for someone that stupid. So at best, it's terrible optics. At worst, it's calloused and repulsive. 1)Were she callous toward those children she wouldn't have been in Texas visiting them. 2)The jacket wasn't worn while she was in Texas. How many days/weeks/months should have been allowed to pass between the times she wore the jacket and this visit? Now, should someone on her staff have anticipated that the press would twist the wearing of this jacket in Washington, DC into looking like something that happened in Texas, then yes, someone should have anticipated that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Mikey said: 1)Were she callous toward those children she wouldn't have been in Texas visiting them. Then, at best it's terrible optics. And a tad clueless. See? That's how such grammatical constructions work. 16 minutes ago, Mikey said: 2)The jacket wasn't worn while she was in Texas. How many days/weeks/months should have been allowed to pass between the times she wore the jacket and this visit? Days/weeks/months isn't really the issue so much as the event she's heading out for. Look, you're a smart guy. Let's not play this game where you pretend not to understand things. 16 minutes ago, Mikey said: Now, should someone on her staff have anticipated that the press would twist the wearing of this jacket in Washington, DC into looking like something that happened in Texas, then yes, someone should have anticipated that. If no one on her staff could see that at least SOMEONE would see her leaving to go see the immigrant family situation at the border wearing a jacket with that message on it and think, "What the hell?", then she needs to fire that entire staff and get a new one. They are too dumb or too scared to do their jobs properly. If someone on her staff told her that it was a bad idea to wear that coat when heading out for this event, then Melania needs her head examined and that staff member should quit if they have any self-respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonc 466 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 22 hours ago, Mikey said: Quote from the link: " .....although it's worth mentioning that the First Lady didn't wear it in Texas or anywhere close to the immigrant facility". Tone deaf? I don't think so. The jacket is directed at the press, who richly deserves the remark. Sorry, she was boarding a plane to head to the border. The fact that she deplaned without it says one of two things happened: 1) she finally listened to her staff or 2) staff didn’t realize or was too afraid to correct her wardrobe choice until they were on the plane. This looked terrible and it’s even worse that the President doubled down on the wardrobe choice later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,368 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I’m shocked she was caught in public wearing a $39 jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japantiger 4,051 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 The fact that the big news out of all of this is Melania's wardrobe pretty much says it all...more hard hitting news from the folks that have given us crucial stories like "two scoops of ice cream" and "ranch dressing instead of vinagarette". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,216 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 6 hours ago, NolaAuTiger said: She's hot Now I do agree with that statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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