aubiefifty 16,791 Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 7/5/2019 at 8:01 PM, SaltyTiger said: Are you talking Fort McClellan? Spent much of my career in government/military construction. Got my start building some of the last barracks built at Fort McClellan. That was in the mid to late 70s. Closed in 1999 and doubt that many if any new barracks built. Would need a demo crew today See link below for a drone tour. Also, nothing takes little time or prep with the government and construction. There is a reason we are using private detention centers to house migrants. well pardon me salty. i meant at the time the fort closed down. but i thought you would be smart enough to figure that one out. and i can guarantee you i have been on that base more than you have. i have some family that worked there. matter of fact i have played different venues there four or five times with different bands. and yes there are some that need tearing down. some have been torn down. also many law enforcement groups have taken over some of the barracks as well since they teach a lot of law classes etc there and have been for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,791 Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 also there are tons of folks that have moved onto the fort as well. while a lot of it has gone to waste ghost town is not entirely correct. how old is your video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,798 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, aubiefifty said: well pardon me salty. i meant at the time the fort closed down Well pardon me. Simply pointing out that it would take more than a little effort to get any abandoned barracks ready. Especially considering the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,791 Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: Well pardon me. Simply pointing out that it would take more than a little effort to get any abandoned barracks ready. Especially considering the owner. i am pretty sure you were taking a shot at me by saying none of them were new since they had been closed so long. but i never expect anything decent anymore from you salty. i gave up on you a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,798 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, aubiefifty said: i am pretty sure you were taking a shot at me by saying none of them were new since they had been closed so long. but i never expect anything decent anymore from you salty. i gave up on you a long time ago. good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,140 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/5/2019 at 9:01 PM, SaltyTiger said: Are you talking Fort McClellan? Spent much of my career in government/military construction. Got my start building some of the last barracks built at Fort McClellan. That was in the mid to late 70s. Closed in 1999 and doubt that many if any new barracks built. Would need a demo crew today See link below for a drone tour. Also, nothing takes little time or prep with the government and construction. There is a reason we are using private detention centers to house migrants. Could make this on Mysteries of the Abandoned TV show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,140 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, aubiefifty said: also there are tons of folks that have moved onto the fort as well. while a lot of it has gone to waste ghost town is not entirely correct. how old is your video? around 2014 or so I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,791 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, augolf1716 said: around 2014 or so I think they are adding some industry and just opened a huge bike park last week for those that like to mountain bike. basically they are taking what was once a ghost town and revitalizing it. if our city council would quit fighting and grandstanding as well as lawsuits there would be much more. but anyway thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,798 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, aubiefifty said: they are adding some industry and just opened a huge bike park last week for those that like to mountain bike. basically they are taking what was once a ghost town and revitalizing it. if our city council would quit fighting and grandstanding as well as lawsuits there would be much more. but anyway thanx non sequitur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,798 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, augolf1716 said: around 2014 or so I think Can assure you no "new barracks" on a military base closed in 1999. As recall they had a decent golf course. Government normally puts a chain link fence around the property and keeps the weeds mowed. Read where they did donate some property for community development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,791 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 back on topic.......... U.S. Children sexually assaulted and bullied by US border guards at migrant detention camp, report says The Independent•July 10, 2019 Child migrants and asylum seekers in the US have accused border agents of sexual assault and retaliating against those who complain about the conditions in which they are detained, according to a new report. A 15-year-old Honduran girl told government investigators that one officer put his hands under her bra, pulled down her underwear and groped her during a security check, according to NBC News. The man was “speaking in English to other officers and laughing” during the attack, she reportedly said. It was one of a string of allegations against agents in Yuma, Arizona, that the US broadcaster said had been detailed in reports given by children to government case managers. The claims are just the latest in a series of investigations and testimonies bringing to light the inhumane treatment of some migrants under Donald Trump’s border regime. One child wore soiled underwear for 10 days at the border station because he was scared to ask for a clean pair, NBC reported, while another boy said he was made to sleep outside despite wearing wet clothes after crossing a river. A 16-year-old Guatemalan boy said that after he and his cellmates complained about the food they were given, US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents took away their sleeping mats and forced them to lie on the concrete floor. “Our clients tell us that they have seen CBP agents kick other children awake, that children do not know whether it’s day or night because lights are left on all the time, and that they have had food thrown at them like they were wild animals,” advocacy lawyer Laura Belous told the broadcaster. CBP told NBC it had several ways people could file complaints and that the allegations would be investigated; the sexual assault claim was already being probed by the homeland security watchdog, it added. The Independent has contacted CBP for further comment. It follows the publication of two investigations by the watchdog – the Department of Homeland Security’s office of the inspector general (OIG) – that revealed the squalid conditions in which migrants and asylum seekers were being held elsewhere. Detention centres in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley were described by staff as a “ticking time bomb” after cells were seen crammed to bursting with people. “At one facility, some single adults were held in standing-room-only conditions for a week,” inspectors said, and children at three of the five sites inspected had no access to showers. “Many” people were being fed only processed sausage sandwiches and “thousands” had been detained longer than the legal 72-hour limit – some for up to a month, during which time they had not been able to shower. An earlier OIG report into conditions in California, Louisiana, Colorado and New Jersey detailed “egregious violations of detention standards” including people being served spoiled food, poor medical care and misuse of isolation cells. And further testimony provided by a paediatrician revealed that babies and young children were being held in squalor at the US Border Patrol’s Ursula facility in McAllen, Texas, where children were left traumatised by their experience. A mother whose baby had diarrhoea was denied fresh clothing while a 15-month-old with a fever had been detained for three weeks and was fed from the same unwashed bottle for several days, Dr Dolly Sevier said. The children she encountered were “totally fearful”, she added. Mr Trump has previously tweeted to say that people detained after migrating illegally or seeking asylum “are living far better now than where they came from, and in far safer conditions”. He added: “No matter how good things actually look, even if perfect, the Democrat visitors will act shocked & aghast at how terrible things are. Just Pols.” Strengthening immigration rules, closing loopholes and instituting a merit-based system are the solutions to the crisis afflicting the border with Mexico, the president has said. On Tuesday, homeland security officials reported a 28 per cent drop in the numbers of migrants encountered by CBP in June, from 144,278 in May to 104,344 last month. The tally included apprehensions between ports of entry as well as people who were deemed “inadmissible” by customs officers. Congress has been forced to approve $4.5bn (£3.6bn) in emergency funds to ease dangerous overcrowding at border camps, after a huge rise in the number of children and families arriving from central America even in the face of Mr Trump’s hardline policies. Homeland security leaders are expected to testify before the House Oversight Committee on Friday. Additional reporting by AP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child migrants and asylum seekers in the US have accused border agents of sexual assault and retaliating against those who complain about the conditions in which they are detained, according to a new report. A 15-year-old Honduran girl told government investigators that one officer put his hands under her bra, pulled down her underwear and groped her during a security check, according to NBC News. The man was “speaking in English to other officers and laughing” during the attack, she reportedly said. It was one of a string of allegations against agents in Yuma, Arizona, that the US broadcaster said had been detailed in reports given by children to government case managers. The claims are just the latest in a series of investigations and testimonies bringing to light the inhumane treatment of some migrants under Donald Trump’s border regime. One child wore soiled underwear for 10 days at the border station because he was scared to ask for a clean pair, NBC reported, while another boy said he was made to sleep outside despite wearing wet clothes after crossing a river. A 16-year-old Guatemalan boy said that after he and his cellmates complained about the food they were given, US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents took away their sleeping mats and forced them to lie on the concrete floor. “Our clients tell us that they have seen CBP agents kick other children awake, that children do not know whether it’s day or night because lights are left on all the time, and that they have had food thrown at them like they were wild animals,” advocacy lawyer Laura Belous told the broadcaster. CBP told NBC it had several ways people could file complaints and that the allegations would be investigated; the sexual assault claim was already being probed by the homeland security watchdog, it added. The Independent has contacted CBP for further comment. It follows the publication of two investigations by the watchdog – the Department of Homeland Security’s office of the inspector general (OIG) – that revealed the squalid conditions in which migrants and asylum seekers were being held elsewhere. Detention centres in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley were described by staff as a “ticking time bomb” after cells were seen crammed to bursting with people. “At one facility, some single adults were held in standing-room-only conditions for a week,” inspectors said, and children at three of the five sites inspected had no access to showers. “Many” people were being fed only processed sausage sandwiches and “thousands” had been detained longer than the legal 72-hour limit – some for up to a month, during which time they had not been able to shower. An earlier OIG report into conditions in California, Louisiana, Colorado and New Jersey detailed “egregious violations of detention standards” including people being served spoiled food, poor medical care and misuse of isolation cells. And further testimony provided by a paediatrician revealed that babies and young children were being held in squalor at the US Border Patrol’s Ursula facility in McAllen, Texas, where children were left traumatised by their experience. A mother whose baby had diarrhoea was denied fresh clothing while a 15-month-old with a fever had been detained for three weeks and was fed from the same unwashed bottle for several days, Dr Dolly Sevier said. The children she encountered were “totally fearful”, she added. Mr Trump has previously tweeted to say that people detained after migrating illegally or seeking asylum “are living far better now than where they came from, and in far safer conditions”. He added: “No matter how good things actually look, even if perfect, the Democrat visitors will act shocked & aghast at how terrible things are. Just Pols.” Strengthening immigration rules, closing loopholes and instituting a merit-based system are the solutions to the crisis afflicting the border with Mexico, the president has said. On Tuesday, homeland security officials reported a 28 per cent drop in the numbers of migrants encountered by CBP in June, from 144,278 in May to 104,344 last month. The tally included apprehensions between ports of entry as well as people who were deemed “inadmissible” by customs officers. Congress has been forced to approve $4.5bn (£3.6bn) in emergency funds to ease dangerous overcrowding at border camps, after a huge rise in the number of children and families arriving from central America even in the face of Mr Trump’s hardline policies. Homeland security leaders are expected to testify before the House Oversight Committee on Friday. Additional reporting by AP
Child migrants and asylum seekers in the US have accused border agents of sexual assault and retaliating against those who complain about the conditions in which they are detained, according to a new report. A 15-year-old Honduran girl told government investigators that one officer put his hands under her bra, pulled down her underwear and groped her during a security check, according to NBC News. The man was “speaking in English to other officers and laughing” during the attack, she reportedly said. It was one of a string of allegations against agents in Yuma, Arizona, that the US broadcaster said had been detailed in reports given by children to government case managers. The claims are just the latest in a series of investigations and testimonies bringing to light the inhumane treatment of some migrants under Donald Trump’s border regime. One child wore soiled underwear for 10 days at the border station because he was scared to ask for a clean pair, NBC reported, while another boy said he was made to sleep outside despite wearing wet clothes after crossing a river. A 16-year-old Guatemalan boy said that after he and his cellmates complained about the food they were given, US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents took away their sleeping mats and forced them to lie on the concrete floor. “Our clients tell us that they have seen CBP agents kick other children awake, that children do not know whether it’s day or night because lights are left on all the time, and that they have had food thrown at them like they were wild animals,” advocacy lawyer Laura Belous told the broadcaster. CBP told NBC it had several ways people could file complaints and that the allegations would be investigated; the sexual assault claim was already being probed by the homeland security watchdog, it added. The Independent has contacted CBP for further comment. It follows the publication of two investigations by the watchdog – the Department of Homeland Security’s office of the inspector general (OIG) – that revealed the squalid conditions in which migrants and asylum seekers were being held elsewhere. Detention centres in Texas’ Rio Grande Valley were described by staff as a “ticking time bomb” after cells were seen crammed to bursting with people. “At one facility, some single adults were held in standing-room-only conditions for a week,” inspectors said, and children at three of the five sites inspected had no access to showers. “Many” people were being fed only processed sausage sandwiches and “thousands” had been detained longer than the legal 72-hour limit – some for up to a month, during which time they had not been able to shower. An earlier OIG report into conditions in California, Louisiana, Colorado and New Jersey detailed “egregious violations of detention standards” including people being served spoiled food, poor medical care and misuse of isolation cells. And further testimony provided by a paediatrician revealed that babies and young children were being held in squalor at the US Border Patrol’s Ursula facility in McAllen, Texas, where children were left traumatised by their experience. A mother whose baby had diarrhoea was denied fresh clothing while a 15-month-old with a fever had been detained for three weeks and was fed from the same unwashed bottle for several days, Dr Dolly Sevier said. The children she encountered were “totally fearful”, she added. Mr Trump has previously tweeted to say that people detained after migrating illegally or seeking asylum “are living far better now than where they came from, and in far safer conditions”. He added: “No matter how good things actually look, even if perfect, the Democrat visitors will act shocked & aghast at how terrible things are. Just Pols.” Strengthening immigration rules, closing loopholes and instituting a merit-based system are the solutions to the crisis afflicting the border with Mexico, the president has said. On Tuesday, homeland security officials reported a 28 per cent drop in the numbers of migrants encountered by CBP in June, from 144,278 in May to 104,344 last month. The tally included apprehensions between ports of entry as well as people who were deemed “inadmissible” by customs officers. Congress has been forced to approve $4.5bn (£3.6bn) in emergency funds to ease dangerous overcrowding at border camps, after a huge rise in the number of children and families arriving from central America even in the face of Mr Trump’s hardline policies. Homeland security leaders are expected to testify before the House Oversight Committee on Friday. Additional reporting by AP
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