bigbird 60,560 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 https://reason.com/2021/02/18/bidens-coronavirus-relief-package-has-almost-nothing-to-do-with-the-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR3fhtGEf449FToRu8XWqzc7mXfGNriD5bjxriG9m5CXGGVpS6cBC-5FH9Q& I believe there needs to be another stimulus for most families and communities, but as in most bills, the pork turns me off to the benefits. Why can't we spend our money wiser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 A bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy... or double-edged sword... or chicken and egg... hell, I don't know the right cliche/metaphor. But I guess this happens because these people- on both sides- make it so hard to pass anything on its own. I happen to see merit in most of what that article discusses, but I can't argue the central point. Doesn't seem like a lot of that money will be spent immediately and urgently on the current crisis. Now, will it be needed to recover from the crisis? I think a case can be made. But that's a different argument, I suppose. As for complaining about states and families getting equal payouts, I find that somewhat humorous. Both sides of the aisle have whined ad nauseam about equality (D) and paying your fair share (R) as long as I've been alive. I'd hate to see the concept of wealthier people receiving their fair share criticized now that it's a Dem dominated government doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,560 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-stimulus-bill-is-a-1-9-trillion-clunker-11614102899 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Just a colossal waste of more money destined to line the pockets of the donors of the party. Clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right. Middle class Americans are stuck in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAUsome09 738 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 14 hours ago, wdefromtx said: Just a colossal waste of more money destined to line the pockets of the donors of the party. Clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right. Middle class Americans are stuck in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 9:24 AM, SuperAUsome09 said: How he gave you a thumbs down is beyond me! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,560 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, wdefromtx said: How he gave you a thumbs down is beyond me! lol He didn't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, bigbird said: He didn't get it Appears that way!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Looks like the Dems are about to shoot themselves in the foot on purpose by trying to do something with the minimum wage in this bill. They know the rules for reconciliation. I would not be surprised if they F this up even more and drag it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,202 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 2/25/2021 at 5:41 PM, bigbird said: He didn't get it He never has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wdefromtx 3,159 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, bigbird said: You can have lots of pulled pork sandwiches with all that pork stuff in there!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,560 Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, wdefromtx said: You can have lots of pulled pork sandwiches with all that pork stuff in there!! We must pass it now! The country's well being depends on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,560 Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 I agree @icanthearyou, it an absolute travesty to have that amount of pork trying to be passed off as critical need. Which fluff in the bill upsets you the most and which do you support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 hours ago, bigbird said: We must pass it now! The country's well being depends on it! If it was brisket, I would say do it. I am not much of a pulled pork person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,947 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 hours ago, bigbird said: I agree @icanthearyou, it an absolute travesty to have that amount of pork trying to be passed off as critical need. Which fluff in the bill upsets you the most and which do you support? Did you post about the previous “relief” deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,560 Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: Did you post about the previous “relief” deals? I don't think so, but I'm not 100%. Did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,947 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Just now, bigbird said: I don't think so, but I'm not 100%. Did you? I don’t recall. The first one was 2.2 trillion. If someone did a similar misleading pie chart on how much went to “Covid health spending” it would have been even less than 9%. It was mostly economic and not that precisely targeted. Tons of abuse and other checks going to folks not economically impacted much, if any, by Covid. Sure, this Bill can be picked apart, too. Many criticisms will be valid, but those won’t likely come from McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 On 2/25/2021 at 4:41 PM, bigbird said: He didn't get it Happens all too often. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,911 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: I don’t recall. The first one was 2.2 trillion. If someone did a similar misleading pie chart on how much went to “Covid health spending” it would have been even less than 9%. It was mostly economic and not that precisely targeted. Tons of abuse and other checks going to folks not economically impacted much, if any, by Covid. Sure, this Bill can be picked apart, too. Many criticisms will be valid, but those won’t likely come from McCarthy. So what you are mad someone didn't post about the first one? Jeez, how about focusing on the present. You know it's bad, condemn it dammit and move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,947 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 59 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said: So what you are mad someone didn't post about the first one? Jeez, how about focusing on the present. You know it's bad, condemn it dammit and move on! Not mad, just think the discrepancy is interesting. I don’t “know it’s bad.” I think it’s typical, which in this case means some much needed stuff with some other things that meet an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 hours ago, TexasTiger said: Did you post about the previous “relief” deals? I recall he did, we discussed the wasteful spending and wondered how many cronies made out like bandits. Did you defend the first one? Or just now defending since it is all by the dems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,947 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, wdefromtx said: I recall he did, we discussed the wasteful spending and wondered how many cronies made out like bandits. Gotta a link to refresh Bird’s and my memories because I didn’t find it? I felt similar to the other bills as this one— all three should have been better targeted— focus on small businesses and those who’ve lost work, not cutting everyone a check. But something needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Just now, TexasTiger said: Gotta a link to refresh Bird’s and my memories? If you want it bad you can search for it. Not worth wasting my time going back. I don't think he started the particular thread, but it was discussed. I am pretty sure we discussed it in round two as well. Besides, he is talk about the current bill. Not last year's so not sure why it even matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,947 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 minute ago, wdefromtx said: If you want it bad you can search for it. Not worth wasting my time going back. I don't think he started the particular thread, but it was discussed. I am pretty sure we discussed it in round two as well. Besides, he is talk about the current bill. Not last year's so not sure why it even matters. I looked for it and he doesn’t recall it. I assumed you were doing what you do best— just making s*** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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