AuCivilEng1 11,046 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/LongFormArticle/nfl-mock-draft-2022-Spencer-Ratler-Sam-Howell-Kayvon-Thibodeaux-165047381/#165047381_1 Has Malik Willis going 23 overall. How bad of a coach is Gus?!!! Jeeezus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,580 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said: https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/LongFormArticle/nfl-mock-draft-2022-Spencer-Ratler-Sam-Howell-Kayvon-Thibodeaux-165047381/#165047381_1 Has Malik Willis going 23 overall. How bad of a coach is Gus?!!! Jeeezus Or how good is Hugh? Probably a combination of both. It makes you wonder how good some of the others might've been able to become Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,034 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 If this is what the QB class looks like next year, I am equally mad the panthers didnt pick up fields.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82be 14,507 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 George Pickens to the Packers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,580 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, gr82be said: George Pickens to the Packers. I thought AR wanted a talented receiver... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,084 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, AuCivilEng1 said: https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/LongFormArticle/nfl-mock-draft-2022-Spencer-Ratler-Sam-Howell-Kayvon-Thibodeaux-165047381/#165047381_1 Has Malik Willis going 23 overall. How bad of a coach is Gus?!!! Jeeezus It's not even that he didn't get to play for me.......he wasn't even allowed to compete........karma though Gus may would still have his job here had he gave him a chance. This is embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, cole256 said: It's not even that he didn't get to play for me.......he wasn't even allowed to compete........karma though Gus may would still have his job here had he gave him a chance. This is embarrassing Let's not even talk about Lamar Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 hours ago, AuCivilEng1 said: https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/LongFormArticle/nfl-mock-draft-2022-Spencer-Ratler-Sam-Howell-Kayvon-Thibodeaux-165047381/#165047381_1 Has Malik Willis going 23 overall. How bad of a coach is Gus?!!! Jeeezus I saw an article the other day predicting him #1 overall. It was far out, but still. I will see if I can find it and link it. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2022-nfl-mock-draft-an-unheralded-passer-goes-first-overall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,034 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said: I saw an article the other day predicting him #1 overall. It was far out, but still. I will see if I can find it and link it. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2022-nfl-mock-draft-an-unheralded-passer-goes-first-overall/ I can’t believe spencer rattler is given this much love. Not hating but this might be one of the weakest QB classes I’ve seen in some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, DAG said: I can’t believe spencer rattler is given this much love. Not hating but this might be one of the weakest QB classes I’ve seen in some time. It is definitely weakest in a decade I would say. I have never been high on Spence. I thought he was overrated coming out of HS and he has just been surrounded by talent everywhere he has been. Yes he has talent, but I am not huge on him. Any one of the top 6 QBS in this years draft come back and they are probably locks for #1 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,034 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said: It is definitely weakest in a decade I would say. I have never been high on Spence. I thought he was overrated coming out of HS and he has just been surrounded by talent everywhere he has been. Yes he has talent, but I am not huge on him. Any one of the top 6 QBS in this years draft come back and they are probably locks for #1 overall. Seriously though ! Sam Howell?! Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual-Threat Rigby 8,819 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 35 minutes ago, DAG said: I can’t believe spencer rattler is given this much love. Not hating but this might be one of the weakest QB classes I’ve seen in some time. I think it has one of the biggest gaps between floor and ceiling imo. That one with EJ Manuel had a ton of very developed QBs that didn’t have much space to grow. I really like Sam Howell, Rattler has flashed elite gun slinger traits, and Willis has equalized the field for a pretty meh Liberty team against some significantly better squads But it’s certainly not jaw dropping. Ridder potentially going top 8 has modern Teddy (post injury) over it imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual-Threat Rigby 8,819 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I’d legit take Howell, Ridder, Willis, Rattler and a flier on Slovis/Daniels over that entire 2013 class tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,034 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Dual-Threat Rigby said: I’d legit take Howell, Ridder, Willis, Rattler and a flier on Slovis/Daniels over that entire 2013 class tbh I do like Kedon. To me he has the highest upside of all these guys. I just can’t get over the Rattler love. I am assuming that is based on the track record of their ball coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Malik Willis' best decision he ever made was to leave Gus Malzahn. All Gus ever cared about was making a QB better in his system. He had zero interest in developing a QB's skill set, fundamentals, football IQ. His QB's spent more time reading a Waffle House menu than an opponent's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, auburnphan said: All Gus ever cared about was making a QB better in his system. To care so much about a task makes the failure to complete all the more depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,034 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 33 minutes ago, auburnphan said: Malik Willis' best decision he ever made was to leave Gus Malzahn. All Gus ever cared about was making a QB better in his system. He had zero interest in developing a QB's skill set, fundamentals, football IQ. His QB's spent more time reading a Waffle House menu than an opponent's defense. Yep! Also I liked how MW took responsibility about his preparation and put in that work . @GwillMac6, Malik has came a long way lol . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpro2a 5,650 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, DAG said: Yep! Also I liked how MW took responsibility about his preparation and put in that work . Many people forget or never realized this. Gus failed MW and every other QB not named Cam or NM he coached at AU, but Malik stated he didn't take it serious or put in the work. Probably saw writing on the wall that Gus was not naming him starter so makes it easy to get lethargic about putting in said work. I get it. I am glad he is flourishing at Liberty under CHF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,046 Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Tigerpro2a said: Many people forget or never realized this. Gus failed MW and every other QB not named Cam or NM he coached at AU, but Malik stated he didn't take it serious or put in the work. Probably saw writing on the wall that Gus was not naming him starter so makes it easy to get lethargic about putting in said work. I get it. I am glad he is flourishing at Liberty under CHF. I’d almost throw Nick in that failed category. He had the tools to be another Lamar Jackson. He needed guidance and coaching on his passing. Gus doesn’t do that, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Tigerpro2a said: Many people forget or never realized this. Gus failed MW and every other QB not named Cam or NM he coached at AU, but Malik stated he didn't take it serious or put in the work. Probably saw writing on the wall that Gus was not naming him starter so makes it easy to get lethargic about putting in said work. I get it. I am glad he is flourishing at Liberty under CHF. Yep. Remember players all talked about what a great leader he was. It was part of the culture that was being allowed to take place. "Put in the effort you want to......" and not "Put in this effort or here is the door." There was this coach the kids who wanted to be coached mentality. There needed to be more accountability and I am glad that we are seeing that change with the new leadership. Different styles, but the new one lays the groundwork for consistent and sustainable success, the other is more of a "once in a blue moon " success rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 12 hours ago, DAG said: I can’t believe spencer rattler is given this much love. Not hating but this might be one of the weakest QB classes I’ve seen in some time. I wonder if any of the analysts who rated Rattler so highly as a recruit are involved in this mock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,084 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Also lol at the heated arguments of why Willis shouldn't even get to play in blowouts and he should move to running back 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,084 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Don't forget one of the best QB's that would'vemade a bunch of noise was drafted in the NBA draft. He wouldn't be in this mock but he'd have everybody waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,034 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, auburnphan said: There needed to be more accountability and I am glad that we are seeing that change with the new leadership. Great point! I think with this new staff we won't have any repeats. Everyone will have accountability from the players to the coaches. As much as we want to blame the coaches (and rightfully so), growth is seen in our fallacies. I honestly believe his self evaluation and the Hugh Freeze tutelage is why he appears to be a 1st round pick. Trey Lance 2.0 Low key Trey Lance needs to perform because that can indirectly open doors for guys like MW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravejd 3,272 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Man i remember being soooo frustrated watching Malik play. He was not allowed to pass and i'm pretty sure his option reads were not really reads at all. How a DI coach can think it is a good idea to not develop a back up QB is so far beyond my ability to understand i literally don't have a guess as to why he did that. Maybe he didn't want the starting QB to feel threatened about losing their job?? That doesn't make sense to me but it is a least a reason. Anyway....water under the bridge now. Glad we have moved on from that staff. And great for Malik that he found a place to thrive and is going to get a nice pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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