How do you acquire the very best QB?

[Auburn93 544]

For about the sixth year in a row, UAT has acquired the very best QB, one that will win the Heisman next year. Saban has a very strong network. He used to acquire the very best running backs until the game changed.

PAT DYE had a great network in acquiring the very best running backs. Steve Davis being his last acquisition. 

So what do they have, that we don't have? How do we get it? 

[Mikey 16,625]

3 minutes ago, Auburn93 said:

So what do they have, that we don't have? How do we get it? 

Three former UAT QB's starting in the NFL.

[Auburn93 544]

1 hour ago, Mikey said:

Three former UAT QB's starting in the NFL.

How do you get the first one? He had to get the first one. 

[Mikey 16,625]

Part of that was buying the best when most schools couldn't or wouldn't be so brazen about purchasing players. The field has been leveled in that regard now, but they've got the ball rolling.

I give you WR Julio Jones: From the housing projects to having 18 custom-made suits in less than four short years.

[Gowebb11 9,330]

24 minutes ago, Auburn93 said:

How do you get the first one? He had to get the first one. 

My opinion: in the most obvious terms, consistently recruit the pieces around them to make them successful. In other words, don’t sign a great high school qb and fail to recruit great linemen and skill players around them. 
 

Weve had our share of excellent QBs lately like Stidham and Nix. They spent their time here running for their life behind bad o lines and throwing to underdeveloped WRs. 

Edited November 28, 2023 by Gowebb11

[Sizzle 3,916]

50 minutes ago, Auburn93 said:

 

So what do they have, that we don't have? How do we get it? 

They win and win a lot. Also look how players they have put in the first round of the draft over the past decade. We get to that level by winning. Big time recruits wanna join consistent winning programs

Edited November 28, 2023 by Sizzle

[tinman1 487]

1 hour ago, Mikey said:

Three former UAT QB's starting in the NFL.

That plus Saban.  He just may be the very best recruiter ever in college football.  Not the best coach but best recruiter.  That's what he told Mal Moore when hired.  "You didn't just hire the best coach, you hired the best recruiter". 

[woodford 3,659]

I want a very good OL before a very good QB. This isn’t the NFL. You don’t need an AA slinging it around to win ball games. 

[Auburn93 544]

1 hour ago, Sizzle said:

They win and win a lot. Also look how players they have put in the first round of the draft over the past decade. We get to that level by winning. Big time recruits wanna join consistent winning programs

Pat Dye signed Alan Evans and Bo Jackson after his first full year of recruiting and he didn't stop there. He had his network at the beginning. No one was talking about Auburn and the NFL until around 1986.

[Hank2020 3,208]

3 hours ago, Sizzle said:

They win and win a lot. Also look how players they have put in the first round of the draft over the past decade. We get to that level by winning. Big time recruits wanna join consistent winning programs

Great recruiting = great NIL offers.

[GAAubie 501]

You sign more than one, because a lot of them NEVER pan out. Look at how many QBs that bammer signed that were highly rated and never played meaningful snaps for bammer or any other school.

[tigeraddikt 1,611]

6 hours ago, Mikey said:

Part of that was buying the best when most schools couldn't or wouldn't be so brazen about purchasing players. The field has been leveled in that regard now, but they've got the ball rolling.

I give you WR Julio Jones: From the housing projects to having 18 custom-made suits in less than four short years.

This. The REC had an extensive nationwide pay-to-play infrastructure in place for decades. Saban waltzed into the perfect situation for himself: combine his OCD authoritarianism recruiting prowess with normalized impermissible benefits resulting in their roster being stuffed 3-deep with 4- and 5- stars year-over-year. They truly drafted every year as Derek Dooley famously quipped.

[JerryAU 1,677]

5 hours ago, Gowebb11 said:

My opinion: in the most obvious terms, consistently recruit the pieces around them to make them successful. In other words, don’t sign a great high school qb and fail to recruit great linemen and skill players around them. 
 

Weve had our share of excellent QBs lately like Stidham and Nix. They spent their time here running for their life behind bad o lines and throwing to underdeveloped WRs. 

Bingo!

Don't put the pressure and stress of the team's success of failure on your QB.  Just like Saban told Mediocre Milroe this year, be the point guard and let other players help us be successful. 

The head coach needs to give his QB a damn fine oline to work behind, give him options with talented weapons TE's/WR's and a stable of RBs to spread the load and let him work within the established system.  Supply him with good position coaches and a coordinator with a scheme that fits the talent on the roster. In other words, develop the players and manage the roster while year after freaking year you consistently stock NFL rosters every freaking draft.  😬 (It gets sickening watching NFL games that are literally loaded with SEC players from other SEC teams, dozens and dozens from our main rivals.)

[tigeraddikt 1,611]

5 hours ago, tinman1 said:

That plus Saban.  He just may be the very best recruiter ever in college football.  Not the best coach but best recruiter.  That's what he told Mal Moore when hired.  "You didn't just hire the best coach, you hired the best recruiter". 

I believe the quote was more along the lines of: “You just hired a s**t coach, but no one will out-recruit me.” Or something to that effect. But your point definitely still stands.

Edited November 28, 2023 by tigeraddikt

[JerryAU 1,677]

4 minutes ago, tigeraddikt said:

This. The REC had an extensive nationwide pay-to-play infrastructure in place for decades. Saban waltzed into the perfect situation for himself: combine his OCD authoritarianism recruiting prowess with normalized impermissible benefits resulting in their roster being stuffed 3-deep with 4- and 5- stars year-over-year. They truly drafted every year as Derek Dooley famously quipped.

"Saban left the NFL because he only got one 1st round draft pick." 

[Gowebb11 9,330]

2 minutes ago, JerryAU said:

 (It gets sickening watching NFL games that are literally loaded with SEC players from other SEC teams, dozens and dozens from our main rivals.)

Yep. Bama and UGA have nearly 60 players each in the NFL. LSU is not far behind them. Many of those are starting QBs and all pro linemen  and WRs. We have just over 20. (And that includes two kickers and a punter 😅)But to Hugh’s credit, he’s working tirelessly to fix that. 

[auburnatl1 4,965]

54 minutes ago, Gowebb11 said:

Yep. Bama and UGA have nearly 60 players each in the NFL. LSU is not far behind them. Many of those are starting QBs and all pro linemen  and WRs. We have just over 20. (And that includes two kickers and a punter 😅)But to Hugh’s credit, he’s working tirelessly to fix that. 

I was watching one of the nfl games earlier in the season and the commentators were joking that the 2 team’s rosters  were almost entirely from uga or uat.  Stunk.

[tinman1 487]

2 hours ago, auburnatl1 said:

I was watching one of the nfl games earlier in the season and the commentators were joking that the 2 team’s rosters  were almost entirely from uga or uat.  Stunk.

It stinks even more when Ga & Bama show recruits the total bonus $$$ their players got after being drafted.  Multi, multi millions of $$.

[gman87 398]

9 hours ago, Auburn93 said:

How do you get the first one? He had to get the first one. 

You serious Clark?

Saban was using NIL before it was cool...

or legal.

[autigeremt 6,643]

6 hours ago, tigeraddikt said:

This. The REC had an extensive nationwide pay-to-play infrastructure in place for decades. Saban waltzed into the perfect situation for himself: combine his OCD authoritarianism recruiting prowess with normalized impermissible benefits resulting in their roster being stuffed 3-deep with 4- and 5- stars year-over-year. They truly drafted every year as Derek Dooley famously quipped.

Combine that with BamaESPN and the media on their knees for the leprechaun and waaala!