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On 5/7/2024 at 2:48 PM, auburnatl1 said:

This is the paradox that hurts my head. Could someone, anyone please explain the rationale for this to be possible.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/05/07/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-evangelical-appeal-00156488

They are calculating hypocrites.

Evangelicals - at least the dominionists - view Trump as the imperfect/sinner warrior working in their behalf.  He is going deliver to them - the righteous - a theocracy.

https://time.com/6130228/donald-trump-christmas-evangelicals/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/21/christian-conservatives-trump-values-voters

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On 5/7/2024 at 1:48 PM, auburnatl1 said:

This is the paradox that hurts my head. Could someone, anyone please explain the rationale for this to be possible.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/05/07/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-evangelical-appeal-00156488

That was one weird article/interview. I'm not saying this type of stuff isn't happening, but I cannot relate. 

 

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Some on the left want to put pastors in jail for preaching verses that come out of the KJV Bible.  They want it deemed "hate speech" and to make it a crime.

Is that what you want aubiefifty?  Evangelical Pastors in jail?

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57 minutes ago, JMWATS said:

Some on the left want to put pastors in jail for preaching verses that come out of the KJV Bible.

Example?

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1 hour ago, JMWATS said:

Some on the left want to put pastors in jail for preaching verses that come out of the KJV Bible.  They want it deemed "hate speech" and to make it a crime.

Is that what you want aubiefifty?  Evangelical Pastors in jail?

i have never even thought anything of that nature. you think what you want. you sling shade not knowing what i think. did the chosen one trump tell you to say that?

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4 hours ago, homersapien said:

They are calculating hypocrites.

Evangelicals - at least the dominionists - view Trump as the imperfect/sinner warrior working in their behalf.  He is going deliver to them - the righteous - a theocracy.

https://time.com/6130228/donald-trump-christmas-evangelicals/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/21/christian-conservatives-trump-values-voters

Need to get some new material Brother Homer……just being kind.

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This whole thread is super rich with hypocrisy.   Imagine a thread starting with condemning people of faith by someone who claims to be of faith.   Wow!  Just wow.   

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16 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

Need to get some new material Brother Homer……just being kind.

I didn't create it, I just display it.  (And it's not like you actually read those links. :-\)

"Reading his remarks, Trump exclaimed, “It’s impossible to think of the life of our own country without the influence of [Jesus’] example and of his teachings. Our miraculous founding, overcoming civil war, abolishing slavery, defeating communism and fascism, reaching boundless heights of science and discovering so many incredible things…And the United States ultimately becoming a truly great nation and we’re gonna keep it that way. We’re not going to let it go.”

That is the promise of MAGA. It’s the reason the vast majority of white evangelicals elevate Trump and what his possible return as President means for the future of the country.

As Trump slowly walked off stage, he began a chant of “USA! USA!” throughout the First Baptist audience. What viewers online could not hear was the small group of attendees next to me in the back of the sanctuary who changed the chant into, “We love you! We love you! We love you!” They weren’t chanting to Jesus. They were chanting to their savior."

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One of the things that ties Trump to Christians - as ironic as it is - is a strong sense of victimhood:

"The president’s grip on the evangelical movement looked as solid as ever. He dips into a deep well of grievance: criticism of him in the media only appears to strengthen him among groups who complain that they, too, are persecuted by the urban elites. Their consciences have found their own way of coming to terms with the seemingly glaring contradiction between their strict moral principles and Trump’s private life, often by reaching for biblical terms such as forgiveness and redemption."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/21/christian-conservatives-trump-values-voters

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Of course there's also the shear blind gullibility"

"Christine Munnin, 54, cradling her eight-month-old granddaughter Genevieve, said she thought the president was doing a “phenomenal” job, boosting the economy and creating jobs. “He’s pro-life and he supports the right of the unborn.

“I believe people change. He has made wrong choices but I have made wrong choices. He has the best interests of the country at heart.”

Yeah, just like most narcissists. :laugh: 

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