TexasTiger 13,055 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Attorney general aide won't testify on firingsMon Mar 26, 2007 7:44PM EDT By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An aide to U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on Monday invoked her constitutional right against self-incrimination and refused to testify before a Senate panel investigating the firing of eight prosecutors. Monica Goodling, who was involved in the firings, said: "I have decided to follow my lawyer's advice and respectfully invoke my constitutional right because the ... circumstances present a perilous environment in which to testify." Democrats, who took power in Congress in January, accuse the Bush administration of firing the prosecutors for political reasons, partly because Republicans viewed them as not pursuing corruption allegations against Democrats strongly enough. They and some Republicans want Gonzales, who is close to President George W. Bush, to resign. Goodling, 33, a counsel to Gonzales and White House liaison, said in a two-page declaration she would decline to answer any of the Senate Judiciary Committee's questions "about the firings of U.S. attorneys or related questions." The committee chairman, Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, said he was disappointed by her decision. "The American people are left to wonder what conduct is at the base of Ms. Goodling's concern that she may incriminate herself in connection with criminal charges if she appears before the committee under oath." http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2639373920070326 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFTiger 282 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Attorney general aide won't testify on firingsMon Mar 26, 2007 7:44PM EDT By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An aide to U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on Monday invoked her constitutional right against self-incrimination and refused to testify before a Senate panel investigating the firing of eight prosecutors. Monica Goodling, who was involved in the firings, said: "I have decided to follow my lawyer's advice and respectfully invoke my constitutional right because the ... circumstances present a perilous environment in which to testify." Democrats, who took power in Congress in January, accuse the Bush administration of firing the prosecutors for political reasons, partly because Republicans viewed them as not pursuing corruption allegations against Democrats strongly enough. They and some Republicans want Gonzales, who is close to President George W. Bush, to resign. Goodling, 33, a counsel to Gonzales and White House liaison, said in a two-page declaration she would decline to answer any of the Senate Judiciary Committee's questions "about the firings of U.S. attorneys or related questions." The committee chairman, Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, said he was disappointed by her decision. "The American people are left to wonder what conduct is at the base of Ms. Goodling's concern that she may incriminate herself in connection with criminal charges if she appears before the committee under oath." http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2639373920070326 One way to avoid a trap by hostile forces is to not step into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger in Spain 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Good analogy! I was always taught that the best way to avoid being bitten by a snake is to try not to pet it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCTAU 3,351 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I said it before. By the time the dims finally get a bite of their own tail, the republicans will have taken back their seats. People were disgusted with the republicans for not doing their job. They will be even more disgusted with the dims for not doing ANYTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,067 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 What is there to hide? I've been wondering that about dems for years. Why is it they rarely campaign on their true agenda? Why do they always try to position themselves toward the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFTiger 282 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 TT, there is nothing to hide but the Democrats have set this stage. The Wall Street Journal weighs in REVIEW & OUTLOOKThe Libby Precedent Why government officials prefer to take the Fifth. Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:01 a.m. EDT If Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy wants to investigate the Bush Administration's dismissal of eight U.S. attorneys, that's certainly his prerogative. But he and other Democrats determined to play up this faux scandal shouldn't be surprised if government officials decide they'd rather not step into this obvious perjury trap. The Judiciary Committee is seeking testimony from, among others, Monica Goodling, the Justice Department's liaison to the White House. Democrats want to quiz Ms. Goodling on her communications with other Justice officials such as Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty, who testified about the firings before the Senate committee in February. This week Ms. Goodling indicated she will exercise her Constitutional right to keep mum. Sad to say, this is one more unfortunate result of the Beltway's modern habit of criminalizing political differences, a la the Scooter Libby travesty. Congress has the right to conduct oversight of the executive, and in a better world government officials would be willing to testify and give as good as they get. Thus would the public be educated about the facts and policy differences be aired. But Ms. Goodling has been around, and she can see Democrats don't really want to know the truth; they want to shout "liar, liar" and set the stage to accuse Justice officials of criminal behavior. In a statement to the committee explaining her decision, Ms. Goodling said, "I have read public remarks by members of both the House and Senate Committees on the Judiciary in which those members have drawn conclusions about the subject matter and the testimony now under investigation by the Committee." We've read them, too. Representative Linda Sanchez has already concluded that there have been "attempts to mislead the public on this issue." In a joint press conference, Senators Charles Schumer and Dianne Feinstein characterized Justice's testimony as "misleading statement after misleading statement--deliberate misleading statements." Mr. Schumer is also a lawyer, and we reckon he deliberately chose that word "deliberate" as a prelude to charging criminal deception and keeping the issue alive long enough to help elect more Senate Democrats next year. (He runs the Senate Democratic campaign committee.) Senator Leahy himself issued a press release asserting that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Mr. McNulty "failed to tell Congress the whole truth about this matter under oath." Now that these Democrats have reached a verdict, they want to hold the trial. If anyone had any doubt about this criminalization game, it should have vanished late Monday with Senator Leahy's suggestion that Ms. Goodling's decision not to testify implies that she's done something wrong. "The American people are left to wonder what conduct is at the base of Ms. Goodling's concern that she may incriminate herself in connection with criminal charges if she appears before the committee under oath," Mr. Leahy said. But the only thing the American people might wonder about is why the Senator, a lawyer who should know better, has seen fit to bully an individual for doing nothing more than invoking her Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. Mr. Leahy's public smear prompted a rebuttal from Ms. Goodling's lawyer, John Dowd, who reminded the Senator that "the Fifth Amendment protects innocent persons who might otherwise be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances, as much as it protects those who may have done something wrong." Count Ms. Goodling's silence as one more unintended consequence of the Scooter Libby case. Mr. Libby made the mistake of cooperating with the investigation into a leak he had nothing to do with, and he later found himself charged with perjury based on little more than conflicting memories of who said what and when. The prosecutor never even charged anyone for the leak that started it all. There's no apparent underlying crime in this "scandal" either, but we'll bet more than one Democrat will soon be calling for a "special prosecutor" to investigate it nonetheless. The New York Times has already floated the idea, as usual. As Mr. Dowd put it in his letter to Mr. Leahy: "The potential for legal jeopardy for Ms. Goodling from even her most truthful and accurate testimony under these circumstances is very real. One need look no further than the recent circumstances and proceedings involving Lewis Libby." If the probing Senators want to know why lawyers can't in good conscience advise their honest clients in government to answer Senate questions, they should look first to the bitter climate their own habits have created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,055 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 If you don't lie, you don't have anything to worry about. TT, there is nothing to hide but the Democrats have set this stage. The Wall Street Journal weighs in REVIEW & OUTLOOKThe Libby Precedent Why government officials prefer to take the Fifth. Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:01 a.m. EDT If Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy wants to investigate the Bush Administration's dismissal of eight U.S. attorneys, that's certainly his prerogative. But he and other Democrats determined to play up this faux scandal shouldn't be surprised if government officials decide they'd rather not step into this obvious perjury trap. The Judiciary Committee is seeking testimony from, among others, Monica Goodling, the Justice Department's liaison to the White House. Democrats want to quiz Ms. Goodling on her communications with other Justice officials such as Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty, who testified about the firings before the Senate committee in February. This week Ms. Goodling indicated she will exercise her Constitutional right to keep mum. Sad to say, this is one more unfortunate result of the Beltway's modern habit of criminalizing political differences, a la the Scooter Libby travesty. Congress has the right to conduct oversight of the executive, and in a better world government officials would be willing to testify and give as good as they get. Thus would the public be educated about the facts and policy differences be aired. But Ms. Goodling has been around, and she can see Democrats don't really want to know the truth; they want to shout "liar, liar" and set the stage to accuse Justice officials of criminal behavior. In a statement to the committee explaining her decision, Ms. Goodling said, "I have read public remarks by members of both the House and Senate Committees on the Judiciary in which those members have drawn conclusions about the subject matter and the testimony now under investigation by the Committee." We've read them, too. Representative Linda Sanchez has already concluded that there have been "attempts to mislead the public on this issue." In a joint press conference, Senators Charles Schumer and Dianne Feinstein characterized Justice's testimony as "misleading statement after misleading statement--deliberate misleading statements." Mr. Schumer is also a lawyer, and we reckon he deliberately chose that word "deliberate" as a prelude to charging criminal deception and keeping the issue alive long enough to help elect more Senate Democrats next year. (He runs the Senate Democratic campaign committee.) Senator Leahy himself issued a press release asserting that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Mr. McNulty "failed to tell Congress the whole truth about this matter under oath." Now that these Democrats have reached a verdict, they want to hold the trial. If anyone had any doubt about this criminalization game, it should have vanished late Monday with Senator Leahy's suggestion that Ms. Goodling's decision not to testify implies that she's done something wrong. "The American people are left to wonder what conduct is at the base of Ms. Goodling's concern that she may incriminate herself in connection with criminal charges if she appears before the committee under oath," Mr. Leahy said. But the only thing the American people might wonder about is why the Senator, a lawyer who should know better, has seen fit to bully an individual for doing nothing more than invoking her Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. Mr. Leahy's public smear prompted a rebuttal from Ms. Goodling's lawyer, John Dowd, who reminded the Senator that "the Fifth Amendment protects innocent persons who might otherwise be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances, as much as it protects those who may have done something wrong." Count Ms. Goodling's silence as one more unintended consequence of the Scooter Libby case. Mr. Libby made the mistake of cooperating with the investigation into a leak he had nothing to do with, and he later found himself charged with perjury based on little more than conflicting memories of who said what and when. The prosecutor never even charged anyone for the leak that started it all. There's no apparent underlying crime in this "scandal" either, but we'll bet more than one Democrat will soon be calling for a "special prosecutor" to investigate it nonetheless. The New York Times has already floated the idea, as usual. As Mr. Dowd put it in his letter to Mr. Leahy: "The potential for legal jeopardy for Ms. Goodling from even her most truthful and accurate testimony under these circumstances is very real. One need look no further than the recent circumstances and proceedings involving Lewis Libby." If the probing Senators want to know why lawyers can't in good conscience advise their honest clients in government to answer Senate questions, they should look first to the bitter climate their own habits have created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,128 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 We saw w/ Scooter Libby that not remembering things correctly can land your a$$ in jail, even if you've not done anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFTiger 282 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 If you don't lie, you don't have anything to worry about. Maybe when investigations were about finding the truth but with Democrats now it is a lynch mob and truth is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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