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I know the dems here were hoping I wouldn't find this gem. But your prayers were not answered.

Global Warming Led to ‘Black Hawk Down,’ Congressman Says

Friday, July 11, 2008

By Josiah Ryan, Staff Writer

Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.)On the Spot

(CNSNews.com) – A top Democrat told high school students gathered at the U.S. Capitol Thursday that climate change caused Hurricane Katrina and the conflict in Darfur, which led to the “black hawk down” battle between U.S. troops and Somali rebels.

Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.), chairman of the House (Select) Energy Independence and Global Warming Committee, also equated the drive for global warming legislation with the drive for women’s suffrage in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

But one global warming expert from the conservative Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) told Cybercast News Service that such a remark reveals Markey’s ignorance on the subject of global warming.

“In Somalia back in 1993, climate change, according to 11 three- and four-star generals, resulted in a drought which led to famine,” said Markey. (According to 11, not 2 or 3, but 11, 3 and 4 star generals, hmmm?)

“That famine translated to international aid we sent in to Somalia, which then led to the U.S. having to send in forces to separate all the groups that were fighting over the aid, which led to Black Hawk Down. There was this scene where we have all of our American troops under fire because they have been put into the middle of this terrible situation,” he added.

Markey was referring to the battle of Mogadishu in 1993, when 18 members of a U.S. military team were killed in a helicopter crash and a resulting firefight. The battle was made famous by a 2001 Academy Award-winning film, “Black Hawk Down.”

Markey was speaking to 25 students from the World Wildlife Fund's Allianz Southeast Climate Witness Program. The students had come to the Capitol to brief members of Congress on the risks of global warming. The students were from the Gulf States. (Would that be a global warming reeducation center?)

But Myron Ebell, director of Energy and Global Warming Policy at CEI, told Cybercast News Service that Markey’s remarks reveal his ignorance about the science of global warming. (No s***!)

“Yes, that part of the world is subject to drought at times, but it has very little to do with global warming,” said Ebell. “It is subject to drought whether the global average temperature is going up, down, or staying the same. To say you know the conflict was caused by global warming is to show how really ignorant you are of the scientific issues involved.”

The students who testified at the event, most of whom had lived in New Orleans prior to Hurricane Katrina in August 2005, described the difficulties they faced after the storm and blamed global warming for the disaster.

“Katrina woke me up and made me pay attention,” said 17-year-old Danielle Wold from Harvey, La. “One of the worst disasters in history made me want to do something. In 100 years, New Orleans could just be another Atlantis.”

Fifteen-year-old Stephen Bordes from New Orleans called on lawmakers to do something to end global warming. “Cutting carbon emissions is mainly in your hands since you pass the laws,” he said. ‘You basically control climate change. We should have changed yesterday, but it’s too late to change yesterday so we should start now.”

Bordes said that he thinks the warming of the atmosphere could lead to a situation in which his home, which is near the superdome in New Orleans, could become permanently inundated with water.

Markey also told the students that there no longer exists any debate about whether or not disasters like Katrina are caused by climate change. (You must believe! You must believe!)

“There now is no question that this harm is being caused by human activity,” said Markey. “It’s warming up the planet and melting the glaciers. There is an underwater heat wave going on. The waters get warmer and warmer and that intensifies the storms and creates even greater havoc when those storms reach land.” (There should be laws against this kind of BS! But then that would violate his right of free speech. )

“The planet is running a fever. It’s heating up but there is no emergency rooms for planets,” he said. “The worst consequences affect the planet -- not only New Orleans -- but the whole planet.

“The same thing is true by the way with Darfur,” Markey added. “Darfur is really about water. This is an issue which really goes to the heart of the incredible impact that climate change is having upon our planet. “ (It's all man's fault! We must increase taxes to take care of the world!)

But Ebell said that droughts in Darfur are probably not an effect of global warming. “In that region, droughts have been going on for hundreds of years and before human beings started to burn coal and gas,” he said. “They will continue because of precipitation patterns. Again, I think Chairman Markey has revealed the extent of his ignorance on this issue.”

Markey finished his talk by comparing the debate against global warming to the 20th century fight for women suffrage. “Back 100 years ago, women rose up and said we want the right to vote, and they were successful,” he said. “Now, you are like the green generation and you are rising up and saying we must ensure the planet does not suffer the worst consequences of climate change.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/arti...px?RsrcID=32291

My head hurts.

In case some of you still don't know who this guy is he's Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.), chairman of the House (Select) Energy Independence and Global Warming Committee.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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They don't call him malarkey Markey for nothing.

[Justin5 20]

Actually in about a year, it will be Sen Markey.

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Actually in about a year, it will be Sen Markey.

His views on global warming should be an assett in his bid for the senate when Ted dies. I guess that is what you were referring to.

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Democrats, do you REALLY support this guy? Be honest, is this someone you think should be representing you?

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Actually in about a year, it will be Sen Markey.

That would be sad. Then the Senate will have the same level of ignorance as is usually found only in the House of Representitives.

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Actually in about a year, it will be Sen Markey.

That would be sad. Then the Senate will have the same level of ignorance as is usually found only in the House of Representitives.

Now that was a 1st class bitch slap! Well done Raptor!!

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Here here!

This guy is an asshat.

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No response from the democrats? Shouldn't you guys either be coming to his defense, or outwardly disowning him?

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Was it dumb to say? Yes. Have we been seeing more intense storms recently? Yes. Do some attribute that to global warming? Yes.

The drought thing was dumb though.

Look, if Congressmen were expected to be experts on everything - they would work exclusively in those areas.

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Have we been seeing more intense storms recently? Yes. Do some attribute that to global warming? Yes.

Prove it.

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Have we been seeing more intense storms recently? Yes. Do some attribute that to global warming? Yes.

Prove it.

Does the word 'some' mean anything to you?

As for as the 'more intense' storms: http://www.livescience.com/environment/050...hurricanes.html . Read that for starters. There really is any debate in that field.

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Actually in about a year, it will be Sen Markey Malarky.

Fixed.

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Increase in Major Hurricanes Linked to Warmer Seas

The number of severe hurricanes has doubled worldwide even though the total number of hurricanes has dropped over the last 35 years, a new study finds.

That was dated 15 September 2005. At the time we were in a El Nino pattern (or event) & now it seems we are headed into a La Nina pattern (or event). There are also many indicators that the warming pattern of the past ten years or so has stopped and the earth could most likely be headed into a cooling event. Both are natural occurrences.

And no I am not going to post links, they have been posted more than once over the past several months.

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Yeah if this were accurate, then all the Global Warming evangelicals need to account for the lack of hurricane activity since 2005.