McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Barnacle said: It's the same way I view members of Congress. Most of these guys are talented, but none of them would have gotten here without unrelenting ambition. It shouldn't surprise any of us to find out what goes in behind closed doors, but damn if they don't sell themselves in a way that has us believing something else. Marcus Aurelius hired a servant to walk behind him and every time a citizen or follower would bow or praise him, the servant would whisper in Aurelius' ear, "You're just a man, you're just a man." Never heard that before. My goodness. Even if it's not true, I give mad props to whoever came up with the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUsince72 11,084 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, McLoofus said: Agreed. I don't think folks always realize what kind of single-mindedness it takes for most of these guys to succeed at the level they do. ...... These guys want to win more than the average joe wants anything. I get it. It's like me heading to the Beer Fridge one more time on game day. My wife tells me I've had enough, but I WON'T be denied. Then, later I'm on probation and have to walk the line until the penalty is lifted... I understand these guys completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, AUsince72 said: I get it. It's like me heading to the Beer Fridge one more time on game day. My wife tells me I've had enough, but I WON'T be denied. Then, later I'm on probation and have to walk the line until the penalty is lifted... I understand these guys completely. Naileded it. *hiccup* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 hours ago, McLoofus said: These guys want to win more than the average joe wants anything. That's the thing that makes me shake my head the most about a lot of the negative conspiracy theories floated around here. They totally disregard the fact that this applies to every football coach, even ours. Ours just seems to be a little less willing to cheat to do it than most... of course, that could be driven by our compliance office more than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, lionheartkc said: That's the thing that makes me shake my head the most about a lot of the negative conspiracy theories floated around here. They totally disregard the fact that this applies to every football coach, even ours. Ours just seems to be a little less willing to cheat to do it than most... of course, that could be driven by our compliance office more than him. Some people lack imagination. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Back to Freeze. Him at Alabama scares the crap out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, lionheartkc said: That's the thing that makes me shake my head the most about a lot of the negative conspiracy theories floated around here. They totally disregard the fact that this applies to every football coach, even ours. Ours just seems to be a little less willing to cheat to do it than most... of course, that could be driven by our compliance office more than him. bammer and the REC is no conspiracy theory. I have said it over and over....there are posters here who have witnessed things and have first hand knowledge of how it all works. There is a rape case and a murder case that are in the public realm thanks to Donald Watkins, and it highlights perfectly how the REC works. There was well documented evidence presented to the NCAA on bammer that was completely ignored. T-Town Menswear is a perfect example of the corrupt bammer way of life. You may not be able to see it or understand it for whatever reason but it is very real and has been a cancer on the state of Alabama in many ways. Just ask UAB about the BOT and how many times they have been openly sabotaged. Quite frankly it's not hard to see unless you just refuse to open your eyes. In the last 10 years they have been pretty open about everything they do because there has been no one who would do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, Barnacle said: Some people lack imagination. Just saying. First hand knowledge is not imagination. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Tigerbelle said: bammer and the REC is no conspiracy theory. I have said it over and over....there are posters here who have witnessed things and have first hand knowledge of how it all works. There is a rape case and a murder case that are in the public realm thanks to Donald Watkins, and it highlights perfectly how the REC works. There was well documented evidence presented to the NCAA on bammer that was completely ignored. T-Town Menswear is a perfect example of the corrupt bammer way of life. You may not be able to see it or understand it for whatever reason but it is very real and has been a cancer on the state of Alabama in many ways. Just ask UAB about the BOT and how many times they have been openly sabotaged. Quite frankly it's not hard to see unless you just refuse to open your eyes. In the last 10 years they have been pretty open about everything they do because there has been no one who would do anything about it. Not sure how you missed my point, but I was talking about the Gus conspiracy theories... like he landed a big contract, so he isn't coaching as hard, or he coached harder against teams to save his job, or he doesn't play certain players because of whatever reason that has nothing to do with their ability on the field, etc. The point is, he like every other coach in the sport, wants to win above all else, so he's not going to do anything to intentionally sabotage that goal. As mentioned before, I totally am with you on the REC. I've seen the footprints and paper trails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, lionheartkc said: Not sure how you missed my point, but I was talking about the Gus conspiracy theories... like he landed a big contract, so he isn't coaching as hard, or he coached harder against teams to save his job, or he doesn't play certain players because of whatever reason that has nothing to do with their ability on the field, etc. The point is, he like every other coach in the sport, wants to win above all else, so he's not going to do anything to intentionally sabotage that goal. As mentioned before, I totally am with you on the REC. I've seen the footprints and paper trails. Sorry where was Gus mentioned in a conspiracy? Thought we were talking about bammer and Hugh Freeze. I am obviously totally confused by your conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, Tigerbelle said: Sorry where was Gus mentioned in a conspiracy? Thought we were talking about bammer and Hugh Freeze. I am obviously totally confused by your conversation. Loof mentioned that every coach wants to win bad... really bad. So I brought up how that fact flies in the face of a lot of the Gus conspiracies around here that he's got all these other agendas. It was a tangent... sorry for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, lionheartkc said: Loof mentioned that every coach wants to win bad... really bad. So I brought up how that fact flies in the face of a lot of the Gus conspiracies around here that he's got all these other agendas. It was a tangent... sorry for the confusion. Oh okay. Sorry I was looking at it in a different context! Maybe too much hot tea with lemon and honey....gotta cut back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SphyNxXx 96 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just read on Twitter that the SEC offices blocked Missouri from hiring Freeze. Be interesting to see if they allow little Nicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 55 minutes ago, Tigerbelle said: First hand knowledge is not imagination. Just saying. I'm sorry, I'm completely confused by this comment. I was musing with lionheart that Gus may not cheat as much as other coaches because he lacks the imagination necessary to get away with it. Sorry if you thought it was directed at another comment, or you personally. edit: okay, reading back over it I definitely understand why it would read that I was speaking about you, or other people who have personal knowledge about Alabama. That was definitely not my intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,456 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 uat proved long ago that they do not care about morality. Win at all cost. It will cost them...eventually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never2Yield 1,005 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, WarTim said: uat proved long ago that they do not care about morality. Win at all cost. It will cost them...eventually... Maybe ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Barnacle said: I'm sorry, I'm completely confused by this comment. I was musing with lionheart that Gus may not cheat as much as other coaches because he lacks the imagination necessary to get away with it. Sorry if you thought it was directed at another comment, or you personally. edit: okay, reading back over it I definitely understand why it would read that I was speaking about you, or other people who have personal knowledge about Alabama. That was definitely not my intent. There was apparently a separate conversation going on inside the thread that I missed and it was confusing for all of us.....no worries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, WarTim said: uat proved long ago that they do not care about morality. Win at all cost. It will cost them...eventually... I agree they don't care about morality. And I keep hoping something will break the corruption wide open and show the rest of the world how rotten to the core that place is. Maybe Donald Watkins will be that guy who brings it all down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 14 hours ago, WarTim said: uat proved long ago that they do not care about morality. Win at all cost. It will cost them...eventually... Yea... when is Emmert retiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Tigerbelle said: I agree they don't care about morality. And I keep hoping something will break the corruption wide open and show the rest of the world how rotten to the core that place is. Maybe Donald Watkins will be that guy who brings it all down. I keep imagining the 30 for 30 that ESPN will be salivating to produce about the biggest scandal in the history of sports once Emmert/Saban leave and the veil of protection is lifted. The college team that blatantly bought multiple national championships while implementing mafia like tactics to eliminate naysayers, earning the school hundreds of millions of dollars and their coach an unprecedented and outrageous salary, all while under the protection of the head of the NCAA. You know that ESPN will turn on them in a heartbeat to get ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUsince72 11,084 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, lionheartkc said: Yea... when is Emmert retiring? Same year as Saban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, AUsince72 said: Same year as Saban? Have they got their cozy retirement cottage all picked out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUsince72 11,084 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, lionheartkc said: Have they got their cozy retirement cottage all picked out? HAHA! Honestly, I almost suspect it's more like Saban's forcing Emert to stay on with blackmail material until Saban's satisfied. I have NO evidence to back this up....just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,924 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 My goodness, I'm not sure if people on here are serious or not? I think my Momma drove home the "Golden Rule" way too far into me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 2:25 PM, Barnacle said: Back to Freeze. Him at Alabama scares the crap out of me. Locksley officially promoted to OC. Phewwwww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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