Zeek's Case for Lane Kiffin

[Mikey 16,579]

Since Kiffin and Freeze appear to be close to interchangeable, I'd prefer Freeze. I haven't noticed Freeze making crazy decisions during games. If you want to see Kiffin make crazy decisions that lose his team a game, just watch a re-run of the 2021 AU vs. Ole' Miss game.

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3 minutes ago, Viper said:

Yet another very realistic reason to avoid Kiffin.

There are very few HCs that would leave a program for...not just A rival...THE arch rival.

Kiffin would absolutely do this over broken glass.

No he wouldn't.  You guys need to quit talking to the QAnon segment of the Auburn fanbase.

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10 hours ago, WarEagleT said:

Kiffin would, for Bammer

He and Dabo would be like...

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3 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

No he wouldn't.  You guys need to quit talking to the QAnon segment of the Auburn fanbase.

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On 11/2/2022 at 9:14 AM, kennypowers said:

Deion is the only candidate that 99% of fans would be behind.  Kiffin 50/50...he's a flake and a weirdo...I'm sure the fraternity crew would love it.  After two bad coaches, they need to just give Deion the go...would be excited, and in no way can be worse than the last 2.  Minimal risk other than $$$

Imagine Deion, Bo, and Chuck all laughing it up around Auburn together. 

Makes for good video but nothing else.  Deion MAY be able to coach in the SEC but we need a PROVEN coach.

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13 minutes ago, Viper said:

"Oh ok" nothing.  You're fretting over smoke and vapor.  Lane's only ties to UAT are being an OC there for 3 years.  

Despite their recent successes, their athletic department isn't any more profitable than Auburn's.  In the most recent year there are figures (2019-2020), Alabama had a profit of $16.1 million for their athletic department and Auburn had profit of $17.9 million.  In fact, Auburn was the 5th most profitable athletic department in the NCAA.  Only Oregon, Texas, UGA and Florida made more after expenses.

They don't have a significantly larger alumni pool than Auburn and they don't have any appreciable advantage in terms of big money boosters and donors either.  Auburn would absolutely be able to match anything Alabama offered Lane if they wanted to.

If your mentality is not to take a head coach because he might leave you for someone "better" (even though there's literally zero history of that happening at Auburn), you're buying into a defeatist mentality and worrying about nothing.

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17 hours ago, DAG said:

I mean Deion is my

primary for sure. But let’s be real, I believe Hugh Freeze is the current best coach out of all of them. 

I fully agree. Prime is #1. Danny Hugh is my #2. Kiffin is 2B- I do wonder about the cost of Kiffen and would that hinder our ability to hire a great staff with him. 

10 hours ago, WarEagleT said:

Kiffin would, for Bammer

 

I think this is absolutely bogus. Coaches have never left AU on their own once they got here. Also, IF Kiffen does well and starts kicking The midget's @$$ every other year, when the midget retires Kiffen would smell blood and sink his teeth in even further IMO.

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I'm telling you man it's crazy how people on here matter of factly feel they know inner passions and ethics of people they literally haven't ever spoken to in their life. And then on top of that will try to formulate an argument off of that. And the funniest part is if something comes up that contradict and you point that out, that's a problem as well

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47 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

No he wouldn't.  You guys need to quit talking to the QAnon segment of the Auburn fanbase.

He most certainly would. QAnon fan base? Nope. That's the Trumper Tuberville/Stop the Steal lovers. Why would Kiffin stay at Auburn, based on his history, if he could go back to where he ran the offense,  where football budget is 4x of Auburn's....

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2 minutes ago, WarEagleT said:

He most certainly would. QAnon fan base? Nope. That's the Trumper Tuberville/Stop the Steal lovers. Why would Kiffin stay at Auburn, based on his history, if he could go back to where he ran the offense,  where football budget is 4x of Auburn's....

Well for starters, because your facts are off.  

In the most recent year we have figures for, Alabama's athletic department generated $189.3 million in revenue and had $173.2 million in expenses for a profit of $16.1 million.  Auburn's AD generated $153.7M in revenue vs $135.8M in expenses for a profit of $17.9 million.  Let that sink in - despite Alabama being at the peak of its history and Auburn being in a lull, we're still more profitable than they are.  And as I said before, Alabama doesn't have any appreciable advantage in terms of overall alumni base to draw from or big money alums and boosters.  The respective school's endowments are almost exactly the same even though UAT is 35 years older than Auburn.

He literally has no ties to UAT outside of being an OC for 3 years and there is literally ZERO history of Auburn losing head coaches to "better" jobs, much less to Alabama.

You're fretting over nothing.  It's a loser mentality.

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Its not about bama, the point with kiffn is that he will always be secretly available to …really anyone.  Obviously thats the nature of coaches but imo kiffin is extreme.  He absolutely would turn us around  and maybe that’s enough for now. But every year there will  be the next desperate program with big money boosters willing to spend even further. Is clk on a secret airplane rumors would just be a part of nov and December life.

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59 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

No he wouldn't.  Good Lord, man.

Of course he would- whether we like to admit it or not, because Bammer's program has had much more sustained success than ours; you just don't get any higher on the mountain in the college football world. Kiffin worked there. He knows plenty of influential people there. And he was responsible for keeping them competitive by bringing in a modern offense and winning that 2015 NC. Saban won't be the only one who decides who succeeds him once he retires in the next few years. 

He would leave AU in a heartbeat for the right money, and the Turds have more than we do, buyouts be damned.

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32 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said:

I think this is absolutely bogus. Coaches have never left AU on their own once they got here. Also, 

Well, actually, one did.  John Heisman left Auburn to go to Clemson.  

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23 minutes ago, WarEagleT said:

He most certainly would. QAnon fan base? Nope. That's the Trumper Tuberville/Stop the Steal lovers. Why would Kiffin stay at Auburn, based on his history, if he could go back to where he ran the offense,  where football budget is 4x of Auburn's....

You literally have no idea what he would do. You have no idea what his priorities, plans, or passions are. To fear he would leave us for anybody is an absurd reason to be against him, especially when you’re worried about him going to Bama. That’s the point

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55 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

"Oh ok" nothing.  You're fretting over smoke and vapor.  Lane's only ties to UAT are being an OC there for 3 years.  

Despite their recent successes, their athletic department isn't any more profitable than Auburn's.  In the most recent year there are figures (2019-2020), Alabama had a profit of $16.1 million for their athletic department and Auburn had profit of $17.9 million.  In fact, Auburn was the 5th most profitable athletic department in the NCAA.  Only Oregon, Texas, UGA and Florida made more after expenses.

They don't have a significantly larger alumni pool than Auburn and they don't have any appreciable advantage in terms of big money boosters and donors either.  Auburn would absolutely be able to match anything Alabama offered Lane if they wanted to.

If your mentality is not to take a head coach because he might leave you for someone "better" (even though there's literally zero history of that happening at Auburn), you're buying into a defeatist mentality and worrying about nothing.

No- the superior approach is that if Deon and Lane are competing over the same 4 and 5 star recruits, we know who would win most of those battles. No contest. Hell we're now seeing prime prospects tweeting out hope that Prime comes to AU and they will flip to come also. He has more contacts at the highest levels of football than Kiffin (plenty of NFL assistants who've been successful in D1 college) so it's a safe assumption he would assemble a top notch staff. NIL? No contest. Excitement and national media coverage 24/7, which makes even more blue chips want to come to AU? Again, no contest between Prime and Joey Feshwater.

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6 minutes ago, WarEagleT said:

Of course he would- whether we like to admit it or not, because Bammer's program has had much more sustained success than ours; you just don't get any higher on the mountain in the college football world. Kiffin worked there. He knows plenty of influential people there. And he was responsible for keeping them competitive by bringing in a modern offense and winning that 2015 NC. Saban won't be the only one who decides who succeeds him once he retires in the next few years. 

He would leave AU in a heartbeat for the right money, and the Turds have more than we do, buyouts be damned.

No, they don't.  I've said this a couple of times now, but the fact is, Auburn's athletic department is more profitable than Alabama's.  In the most recent year we have figures, Auburn made a profit of $17.9 million on athletics to Alabama's $16.1 million - and that is with Alabama at the peak of its history and Auburn in a lull.  They don't have any advantage to speak of in terms of overall alumni base, nor number of big money alums and boosters either.  

You guys are buying into mythology.  Kiffin's only ties to Alabama was three years as an OC and he got let go before the national title game because he was itching to get going coaching Florida Atlantic.

Auburn has ZERO history of losing head coaches to other schools.  None.  It's no more true this time than it has ever been.

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9 minutes ago, Mike4AU said:

Well, actually, one did.  John Heisman left Auburn to go to Clemson.  

I really don't think that going all the way back to the pre-leather helmet days is relevant.

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and those saying Kiffin would leave here for a better job because no AU coach has ever done that...well, the stars have never been aligned like they will be when Saban steps down and a former OC that helped win a NC can go there. OK to bleed orange/blue- but we ain't the center of the football universe.

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6 minutes ago, WarEagleT said:

No- the superior approach is that if Deon and Lane are competing over the same 4 and 5 star recruits, we know who would win most of those battles. No contest. Hell we're now seeing prime prospects tweeting out hope that Prime comes to AU and they will flip to come also. He has more contacts at the highest levels of football than Kiffin (plenty of NFL assistants who've been successful in D1 college) so it's a safe assumption he would assemble a top notch staff. NIL? No contest. Excitement and national media coverage 24/7, which makes even more blue chips want to come to AU? Again, no contest between Prime and Joey Feshwater.

If you want to argue that Deion would outrecruit Lane then make that argument.  But the "Lane would jump ship for bammer" one is devoid of facts, logic, history, or anything else to back it up.

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Just now, WarEagleT said:

and those saying Kiffin would leave here for a better job because no AU coach has ever done that...well, the stars have never been aligned like they will be when Saban steps down and a former OC that helped win a NC can go there. OK to bleed orange/blue- but we ain't the center of the football universe.

We've never been the center of the football universe.  And we saw this movie at Alabama before right after Bear retired.

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36 minutes ago, cole256 said:

I'm telling you man it's crazy how people on here matter of factly feel they know inner passions and ethics of people they literally haven't ever spoken to in their life. And then on top of that will try to formulate an argument off of that. And the funniest part is if something comes up that contradict and you point that out, that's a problem as well

Are there ever AUFamily tailgates? Or would that be a bad idea? lol

Edited November 3, 2022 by AUINSY

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I swear to heaven some of you are rival plants just here to troll.  

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1 minute ago, TitanTiger said:

If you want to argue that Deion would outrecruit Lane then make that argument.  But the "Lane would jump s*** for bammer" one is devoid of facts, logic, history, or anything else to back it up.

 

1 minute ago, TitanTiger said:

If you want to argue that Deion would outrecruit Lane then make that argument.  But the "Lane would jump s*** for bammer" one is devoid of facts, logic, history, or anything else to back it up.

and your stance that he would fall in love so much with Auburn that he would never want to go back to a place where he helped win a NC, is naive, and devoid of facts, logic, HISTORY, or anything else to back it up. 

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4 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

I really don't think that going all the way back to the pre-leather helmet days is relevant.

Sure thing.  It’s always a good idea to say things that are inaccurate.