AUTiger25 29 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Bill O'Brien ...would not be interested in coming to Auburn at this time. With all due respect my friend I have been told he is interested and wants out of Penn St because he had no idea the NCAA sanctins would be as bad as they are. He has yet to commit to 2013 at Penn St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike4AU 1,739 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 O'Brien has weathered (at least for this year), one of the worst storms in the history of college football. That gets my respect, big time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjacob 44 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 What O'Brien might want to worry about is if there is a reduction in scholies, which I believe there is (but I could be wrong) how is that going to affect Penn St's success in the coming seasons. Will the fans after this season's success be patient as they should be or will they be like Tenn's fans, who just fired a coach that had to deal with being on probation, because of the last coach? Penn St is going to continue to have depth issues for a few years and O'Brien may not want to deal with it and risk a "Dooley situation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigertill 0 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I don't know much about O'Brien. I do know quite a bit about Jimbo. Can someone provide a comparison of why AU would want one more than the other. In my limited knowledge it seems as if Jimbo has a better HC background, and is more proven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,723 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I don't know much about O'Brien. I do know quite a bit about Jimbo. Can someone provide a comparison of why AU would want one more than the other. In my limited knowledge it seems as if Jimbo has a better HC background, and is more proven? You're correct about Jimbo's better background. My guess is that O'Brien's name comes up because if we can't get Jimbo, O'Brien would be a viable option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike4AU 1,739 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 O'Brien is not a viable option. His buyout is at least $9.2 mil. My reading of his contract says that his buyout is $18.4 mil. Not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjacob 44 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Isn't the buy out in place to help the coach in case he is prematurely fired? Why would there be a buyout for him to leave? Such a buyout would not help him in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike4AU 1,739 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Isn't the buy out in place to help the coach in case he is prematurely fired? Why would there be a buyout for him to leave? Such a buyout would not help him in the least. Mutual buyouts are common, but, IMO, O'Brien's lawyer didn't do a good job on that buyout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,114 Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Isn't the buy out in place to help the coach in case he is prematurely fired? Why would there be a buyout for him to leave? Such a buyout would not help him in the least. Mutual buyouts are common, but, IMO, O'Brien's lawyer didn't do a good job on that buyout. Well someone needs to tell O'Brien because at this point he is not committed to Penn St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selias 2,398 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Isn't the buy out in place to help the coach in case he is prematurely fired? Why would there be a buyout for him to leave? Such a buyout would not help him in the least. Mutual buyouts are common, but, IMO, O'Brien's lawyer didn't do a good job on that buyout. Well someone needs to tell O'Brien because at this point he is not committed to Penn St. Isn't his buyout something ridiculous? Like 10+ million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUbritt 611 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Isn't the buy out in place to help the coach in case he is prematurely fired? Why would there be a buyout for him to leave? Such a buyout would not help him in the least. Mutual buyouts are common, but, IMO, O'Brien's lawyer didn't do a good job on that buyout. Well someone needs to tell O'Brien because at this point he is not committed to Penn St. Isn't his buyout something ridiculous? Like 10+ million? Yep. It's discussed above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike4AU 1,739 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Isn't the buy out in place to help the coach in case he is prematurely fired? Why would there be a buyout for him to leave? Such a buyout would not help him in the least. Mutual buyouts are common, but, IMO, O'Brien's lawyer didn't do a good job on that buyout. Well someone needs to tell O'Brien because at this point he is not committed to Penn St. That would be a good idea. It is possible that OB could try to void the contract by saying PSU officials mislead him when he interviewed for the job. I'm not sure that we would want a guy who might be headed for litigation. I am impressed with OB, but I think the buyout kills the deal. And, yes, I can read the same sources that say he is not committed to PSU, but I can also read his contract and he will be facing a huge uphill battle if he leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,114 Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Isn't the buy out in place to help the coach in case he is prematurely fired? Why would there be a buyout for him to leave? Such a buyout would not help him in the least. Mutual buyouts are common, but, IMO, O'Brien's lawyer didn't do a good job on that buyout. Well someone needs to tell O'Brien because at this point he is not committed to Penn St. That would be a good idea. It is possible that OB could try to void the contract by saying PSU officials mislead him when he interviewed for the job. I'm not sure that we would want a guy who might be headed for litigation. I am impressed with OB, but I think the buyout kills the deal. And, yes, I can read the same sources that say he is not committed to PSU, but I can also read his contract and he will be facing a huge uphill battle if he leaves. I apologize if my post came across as insulting your intellegence. That was not my intent at all. I was just being serious that someone needs to tell him because he is not committed to Penn St for 2013 and has reached out to Auburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Kentucky did the only right thing. Tennessee did the only right thing. Will Auburn do the only right thing to save their football program and athletic department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,114 Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Kentucky did the only right thing. Tennessee did the only right thing. Will Auburn do the only right thing to save their football program and athletic department? halfway yes. Chizik is down 5 touchdowns with 3 minutes left in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Are ya'll saying that there's a real chance that Bill O'Brien's really reaching out to become Auburn's new head coach for 2013? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUbritt 611 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Are ya'll saying that there's a real chance that Bill O'Brien's really reaching out to become Auburn's new head coach for 2013? 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Would he a be a good hire? what does he know about the SEC style of football? To win in the SEC, you have to have a strong defense and even a stronger running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike4AU 1,739 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Isn't the buy out in place to help the coach in case he is prematurely fired? Why would there be a buyout for him to leave? Such a buyout would not help him in the least. Mutual buyouts are common, but, IMO, O'Brien's lawyer didn't do a good job on that buyout. Well someone needs to tell O'Brien because at this point he is not committed to Penn St. That would be a good idea. It is possible that OB could try to void the contract by saying PSU officials mislead him when he interviewed for the job. I'm not sure that we would want a guy who might be headed for litigation. I am impressed with OB, but I think the buyout kills the deal. And, yes, I can read the same sources that say he is not committed to PSU, but I can also read his contract and he will be facing a huge uphill battle if he leaves. I apologize if my post came across as insulting your intellegence. That was not my intent at all. I was just being serious that someone needs to tell him because he is not committed to Penn St for 2013 and has reached out to Auburn. Hey, man, no problem. He will not be the first coach to make a monumental blunder when it comes to contracts. His buyout states that he will pay PSU an amount equal to the amount that he would have earned as the HC for the entire length of his original contract AND any extensions. I emphasized extensions because his contract was extended in July by 4 years when PSU got put on probation. That took his then current buyout from $9.2 to $18.4. If he is serious about leaving I supposed OB is going to travel on the "I was hoodwinked" theory. That said, considering all the hoodwinking that did go on at PSU, he may well have a very good case. Even so, litigation is lengthy, time consuming and expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,114 Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Isn't the buy out in place to help the coach in case he is prematurely fired? Why would there be a buyout for him to leave? Such a buyout would not help him in the least. Mutual buyouts are common, but, IMO, O'Brien's lawyer didn't do a good job on that buyout. Well someone needs to tell O'Brien because at this point he is not committed to Penn St. That would be a good idea. It is possible that OB could try to void the contract by saying PSU officials mislead him when he interviewed for the job. I'm not sure that we would want a guy who might be headed for litigation. I am impressed with OB, but I think the buyout kills the deal. And, yes, I can read the same sources that say he is not committed to PSU, but I can also read his contract and he will be facing a huge uphill battle if he leaves. I apologize if my post came across as insulting your intellegence. That was not my intent at all. I was just being serious that someone needs to tell him because he is not committed to Penn St for 2013 and has reached out to Auburn. Hey, man, no problem. He will not be the first coach to make a monumental blunder when it comes to contracts. His buyout states that he will pay PSU an amount equal to the amount that he would have earned as the HC for the entire length of his original contract AND any extensions. I emphasized extensions because his contract was extended in July by 4 years when PSU got put on probation. That took his then current buyout from $9.2 to $18.4. If he is serious about leaving I supposed OB is going to travel on the "I was hoodwinked" theory. That said, considering all the hoodwinking that did go on at PSU, he may well have a very good case. Even so, litigation is lengthy, time consuming and expensive. Fair and valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyeHardAllTheWay 0 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ellitor, would Auburn be willing to buy out O'Brien's contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,114 Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ellitor, would Auburn be willing to buy out O'Brien's contract? Just my opinion but No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,302 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Ellitor, would Auburn be willing to buy out O'Brien's contract? Just my opinion but No. ^^This^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
around4ever 4,139 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Most buyout clauses have provisions for both sides. To protect a coach in the case of a firing, the coach gets money. In the case of a coach leaving before his contract is up, he would be responsible for paying the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike4AU 1,739 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 IIRC, Chiz's buyout from ISU was $750K. AU loaned GC that money and the amount owed by him to AU is reduced by $150K each year at AU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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