alexava 6,973 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 The lies on top of lies at Arkansas is all I'm interested in. The other stuff provides a broader picture of a man who thinks of himself over everyone else. I guess he's the typical modern day man. lol This moderate Republican thinks that sounds like every conservative Republican he meets. Jeb Bush-yep! Governor Scott (FL) -yep! Every idiot in the party that thinks he's wealthy when he/she is only upper-middle class and a medical emergency away from being in financial dire straits-yep! I personally would love to see Bobby P as our HC, but I'd be happy with Jimbo, Strong, Malzahn, etc also. tell me about it. i know people who are actually barely above poverty and already on ss disability but wave the foxnews flag proudly based on ....idk??? We have to get off our high horse and hire a coach. we already have a preacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,481 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 The lies on top of lies at Arkansas is all I'm interested in. The other stuff provides a broader picture of a man who thinks of himself over everyone else. I guess he's the typical modern day man. lol That doesn't make sense in light of this article. "The other stuff" is trumped up nonsense unless Russ Campbell, who has an excellent reputation, is not just bending the truth but lying through his teeth. And the Jetgate thing...the primary mistake he made was not having a proxy meet with them to find out what Auburn was offering. Because otherwise, that thing wasn't any different than about 98% of all coaching searches at major conference schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANSBY 0 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He's also a lying scumbag. "IF" he were to come here he'd have to win immediately to get over this. I don't want the man. I think we can do so much better. Again, so is Saban. I guess we are too good for him too. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,896 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Ok but don't you think he owed something to the players ...to let them know face to face he was leaving....just because adversity exists you still can be man enough and do the noble thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8t2baub 0 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Auburn is better than Petrino. I would argue that Auburn is better than chizik. I wouldn't try to make that argument but I will say I think there are guys who we could hire that I wouldn't distrust from the very beginning. Apparently, trust is not a big deal to the "hire Petrino" crowd. He is a freaking football coach! Why do you even have to trust him? He isn't dating your daughter, he is coaching a football team. Winning is what matters at EVERY school. If you don't win, it doesn't matter how many great men you create, you will be fired. You need to start understanding this. Anybody that is being paid $3 to $4mil a year should be trustworthy. I wonder why coaches talk so much about having to trust their players? Im not being hard on you but how old are you? Trust is an indispensable commodity in any business arrangement. Being the face of the progrram requires that he is worthy of being trusted, in my mind..obviously you dont care if he can trusted or not which seriously makes me wonder about your maturity. I also disagree with this. I trust him to win football games, not get us put on probation and graduate his players. He has proven in the past to be trustworthy in these regards. I'm not interested in marrying him. Thas good but based on the man love in here, I could be persuaded to believe that ALL you guys would say yes if he proposed to you! Trust goes beyond what you've stated. I would like to think I could trust a guy to keep his word too. Bobby Petrino hasn't ever been one you could accuse of that! LOL To answer the other question you asked me, I'm old enough to know that the first person that makes the debate personal is always on the losing side, but you appear comfortable with losing. I'm also old enough to have learned that the person that makes denigrating homoerotic suggestions does so out of repressed homosexuality. Freud and Jung would love your analysis. Another note on trust: his wife apparently trusts him. Do you claim to know him better than his wife? I made a joke that you escalated into a full on psychonanalysis...thats pretty good bud but there was nothing personal about it...it was a joke. Apparently, you're taking yourself AND this debate a little too seriously. At the end of the day there is no winning and losing because the fact is, its all just posted opinions. May I apologize for offfending you to the point of getting personal. Isn't it ironic, isn't it indeed! What did I say that was personal in that post? I merely stated facts. You made it personal when you asked my age (implying that I am an immature PERSON) and by make a sleight about "all this man love", (implying that I am a homosexual PERSON). I have done no such thing to you specifically, I just gave reasons why ANY PERSON would stoop to such tactics in a discussion. Nothing personal bro. To curb any confusion, the word PERSONAL is defined as "of, affecting or belonging to a particular person." I just made generalizations As to the type of person that would conduct himself such as you have. So, as YOU YOURSELF stated to me earlier, try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUIH1 1,515 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 JetGate and even the Falcon situation do not bother me in terms of hiring Petrino, Even the affair by itself would not be a deal killer for me regarding Petrino. It is the hiring of the mistress, the terrible position he put his employer in by hiring the mistress and lying to his AD that makes Petrino radioactive IMO. I will repeat that I believe of the names thrown about, that Petrino is the best coach AU could possibly hire (with Jimbo Fisher #2). wde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,481 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Ok but don't you think he owed something to the players ...to let them know face to face he was leaving....just because adversity exists you still can be man enough and do the noble thing..... He could have handled that better. But that would not be a dealbreaker for me if I was considering hiring him. Tubs shouldn't have told his players he would leave Oxford in a pine box then the next day meet with Auburn and accept that job either. Doesn't mean I wouldn't have hired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He's also a lying scumbag. "IF" he were to come here he'd have to win immediately to get over this. I don't want the man. I think we can do so much better. Again, so is Saban. I guess we are too good for him too. yep I continue to fail to see what relevance Nick Saban has to this issue. I for one thnk Saban is perfect fit at Alabama. There is an awful lot of ENVY issues circulating among Auburn fans about now. Its sad to have to admit that what Bama fans have always said about Auburn fans has come true. They've always contended that all we wanted was to be like them. Seems we're there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjacob 44 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 JetGate and even the Falcon situation do not bother me in terms of hiring Petrino, Even the affair by itself would not be a deal killer for me regarding Petrino. It is the hiring of the mistress, the terrible position he put his employer in by hiring the mistress and lying to his AD that makes Petrino radioactive IMO. I will repeat that I believe of the names thrown about, that Petrino is the best coach AU could possibly hire (with Jimbo Fisher #2). wde Nepotism happens at every job. In many jobs it is about who you know that gets you hired. She obviously could do the job well, because she got hired quickly by another college (USCe I believe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selias 2,398 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He's also a lying scumbag. "IF" he were to come here he'd have to win immediately to get over this. I don't want the man. I think we can do so much better. Again, so is Saban. I guess we are too good for him too. yep I continue to fail to see what relevance Nick Saban has to this issue. I for one thnk Saban is perfect fit at Alabama. There is an awful lot of ENVY issues circulating among Auburn fans about now. Its sad to have to admit that what Bama fans have always said about Auburn fans has come true. They've always contended that all we wanted was to be like them. Seems we're there If wanting to win makes me seem like a Bammer to you, I'll take it. Hell, I'll gladly wear it. I want to win. I want to win at a high level on a regular basis. I want to win so much, teams are afraid to play us. Just win, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Auburn is better than Petrino. I would argue that Auburn is better than chizik. I wouldn't try to make that argument but I will say I think there are guys who we could hire that I wouldn't distrust from the very beginning. Apparently, trust is not a big deal to the "hire Petrino" crowd. He is a freaking football coach! Why do you even have to trust him? He isn't dating your daughter, he is coaching a football team. Winning is what matters at EVERY school. If you don't win, it doesn't matter how many great men you create, you will be fired. You need to start understanding this. Anybody that is being paid $3 to $4mil a year should be trustworthy. I wonder why coaches talk so much about having to trust their players? Im not being hard on you but how old are you? Trust is an indispensable commodity in any business arrangement. Being the face of the progrram requires that he is worthy of being trusted, in my mind..obviously you dont care if he can trusted or not which seriously makes me wonder about your maturity. I also disagree with this. I trust him to win football games, not get us put on probation and graduate his players. He has proven in the past to be trustworthy in these regards. I'm not interested in marrying him. Thas good but based on the man love in here, I could be persuaded to believe that ALL you guys would say yes if he proposed to you! Trust goes beyond what you've stated. I would like to think I could trust a guy to keep his word too. Bobby Petrino hasn't ever been one you could accuse of that! LOL To answer the other question you asked me, I'm old enough to know that the first person that makes the debate personal is always on the losing side, but you appear comfortable with losing. I'm also old enough to have learned that the person that makes denigrating homoerotic suggestions does so out of repressed homosexuality. Freud and Jung would love your analysis. Another note on trust: his wife apparently trusts him. Do you claim to know him better than his wife? I made a joke that you escalated into a full on psychonanalysis...thats pretty good bud but there was nothing personal about it...it was a joke. Apparently, you're taking yourself AND this debate a little too seriously. At the end of the day there is no winning and losing because the fact is, its all just posted opinions. May I apologize for offfending you to the point of getting personal. Isn't it ironic, isn't it indeed! What did I say that was personal in that post? I merely stated facts. You made it personal when you asked my age (implying that I am an immature PERSON) and by make a sleight about "all this man love", (implying that I am a homosexual PERSON). I have done no such thing to you specifically, I just gave reasons why ANY PERSON would stoop to such tactics in a discussion. Nothing personal bro. To curb any confusion, the word PERSONAL is defined as "of, affecting or belonging to a particular person." I just made generalizations As to the type of person that would conduct himself such as you have. So, as YOU YOURSELF stated to me earlier, try again. If I was out of line for asking you age, Ive already offered my apology for that. Is my apology insufficient in meeting your needs? Thanks for taking me back to school by explaining to me what personal meant. Your hair splitting over analyzed implication spoke for itself. Thats about all I need to say about the personal content of your post. You over reached in a big and mean spirited way but thats the way of the forum world and its your right to post as you see fit...its also mine to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weagl1 1,784 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Petrino is the best coach available - by far. If we are not going to go after the best available we might as well keep what we have. I just don't think AU spending the money it is going to take to make a change and then turning this over to JJ to hire another mediocre coach such as Jimbo is very good plan. I understand the concerns over the baggage Petrino will bring but hopefully he has learned from his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWeagle 4 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Hardly worth a new thread. That said, I'm sure that the same guy who cheated on his wife and unethically hired his mistress- who was engaged to his coworker- was totally on the up and up when he allowed his agent to tell this story on his behalf. He's a football coach. It doesn't matter what he does in his personal life as long as it is not illegal. A stranger's personal life is none of your business, nor anybody else's. I swear, y'all are like a bunch of women gossiping about tabloid mags. Man. Never once used the ignore function before the merger. Suddenly, I've got about 30 31 names on there. I've heard multiple mentions now that this Russ Campbell guy is legit. I'll believe you guys, despite the fact that he's in a notoriously shady business representing a notoriously shady coach. However, Arthur Blank's integrity is pretty much bullet proof if you ask anybody not named Petrino or Guy That Makes Money Off Petrino's Success. If we're gonna get into "he said, he said" between one of the most respected businessmen and owners in the NFL and the guy who hired the woman he was banging who was not his wife, my choice is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcivE09 582 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I agree that this could have been handled much better than a note taped to lockers - that is what bothers me the most. Also, take into consideration that this is Scarbinsky quoting an agent. I can think of many agents that would have never bothered to try and repair the image of the guy that makes them money........... Hardly worth a new thread - however - as big an anti-BP guy that I have been - I would support a BP hire as long as he has a VERY low buyout (if any). I do not think he will work, but I guess change is coming anyway. Good thing I am no longer use to seeing a good defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,093 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 With all due respect to the people being against Petrino for his coaching and saying we would be a 3rd place team each year with him is a joke. Arky being 3rd every year was being way above their heads. Ina a vacuum with every team having average coaching Arky at best is battling Miss St. and Ole Miss for 5th based on facilities, resources, finances, and talent pool. Now with those same conditions Auburn is 3rd. Now you add Petrinlo to that mix given how great of a game day coach he is and excellent talent developer then Auburn becomes another super power in the west along w/ Bama, LSU, and soon to be A&M. Heck would would probably own Georgia to the point they fire Richt out of frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,481 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I agree that this could have been handled much better than a note taped to lockers - that is what bothers me the most. Also, take into consideration that this is a Scarbinsky quoting an agent. I can think of many agents that would have never bothered to try and repair the image of the guy that makes them money........... Hardly worth a new thread - however - as big an anti-BP guy that I have been - I would support a BP hire as long as he has a VERY low buyout (if any). I do not think he will work, but I guess change is coming anyway. Good thing I am no longer use to seeing a good defense. It's one thing for an agent to sort of 'spin' a story to make his client look as good as possible within the circumstances. But what Campbell is saying would have to be a bald-faced lie. And he has a very good reputation...not given to just making stories up out of whole cloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,481 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I merged the Falcons story into the larger Petrino thread...you big whiny babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANSBY 0 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Point is, I don't want Saban, I don't want Chizik, and I don't want Petrino (in that order). We all love AU, some of us just put more emphasis on winning at all costs than others. I'm cool with that. I venture a guess that you guys, just like me, will prob be left off the list of "people who matter" once it's time to make a decision. Next September when AU takes the field, I will be there in O&B pulling for our Auburn Tigers, and cheering for the guy who coaches them...regardless of who he might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWeagle 4 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I merged the Falcons story into the larger Petrino thread...you big whiny babies. Touche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueVue 177 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving. Let me say, that I had no intention of upsetting you folks today by posting my opinions. For those of you I did upset, please accept my apologies. The good news, for you is, I have no say whatsoever in the hiring of the next coach. I hope we're all happy with the results of that endeavor...better days ahead - War Eagle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyeHardAllTheWay 0 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I repeat. This is absolutely the wrong hirer at the wrong time in the wrong place for the wrong reasons. Good coach. No ethics. Will screw Auburn in a heartbeat. Everyone said that about Nick Saban in 2007 when he went to Alabama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegle777 78 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Auburn is better than Petrino. I would argue that Auburn is better than chizik. I wouldn't try to make that argument but I will say I think there are guys who we could hire that I wouldn't distrust from the very beginning. Apparently, trust is not a big deal to the "hire Petrino" crowd. He is a freaking football coach! Why do you even have to trust him? He isn't dating your daughter, he is coaching a football team. Winning is what matters at EVERY school. If you don't win, it doesn't matter how many great men you create, you will be fired. You need to start understanding this. Anybody that is being paid $3 to $4mil a year should be trustworthy. I wonder why coaches talk so much about having to trust their players? Im not being hard on you but how old are you? Trust is an indispensable commodity in any business arrangement. Being the face of the progrram requires that he is worthy of being trusted, in my mind..obviously you dont care if he can trusted or not which seriously makes me wonder about your maturity. I also disagree with this. I trust him to win football games, not get us put on probation and graduate his players. He has proven in the past to be trustworthy in these regards. I'm not interested in marrying him. Thas good but based on the man love in here, I could be persuaded to believe that ALL you guys would say yes if he proposed to you! Trust goes beyond what you've stated. I would like to think I could trust a guy to keep his word too. Bobby Petrino hasn't ever been one you could accuse of that! LOL No offense, but Auburn football isn't just about YOU. It makes no difference if YOU don't trust him. Well dayum...theres a real news alert caliber of post.....this forum is about posting opinions. Is it not? Good lord...you're seemingly in full on meltdown son! LMAO Ah yes, the old, "I know I'm wrong so I'm going to switch gears and make it sound like you are in meltdown mode." strategy. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANSBY 0 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 With all due respect to the people being against Petrino for his coaching and saying we would be a 3rd place team each year with him is a joke. Arky being 3rd every year was being way above their heads. Ina a vacuum with every team having average coaching Arky at best is battling Miss St. and Ole Miss for 5th based on facilities, resources, finances, and talent pool. Now with those same conditions Auburn is 3rd. Now you add Petrinlo to that mix given how great of a game day coach he is and excellent talent developer then Auburn becomes another super power in the west along w/ Bama, LSU, and soon to be A&M. Heck would would probably own Georgia to the point they fire Richt out of frustration. I think you have to take into account Petrino's Scarlet A, that will surely be mentioned early and often on the recruiting trail. I know most players just want to win and get a chance to play in the league, but it will be a challenge Petrino has to overcome. If he comes to AU, he will be an easy target, he better hope he wins early, often, and big....because he will already have 2 strikes against him. Auburn football is already a joke, do we need a punchline as a head coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,481 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 With all due respect to the people being against Petrino for his coaching and saying we would be a 3rd place team each year with him is a joke. Arky being 3rd every year was being way above their heads. Ina a vacuum with every team having average coaching Arky at best is battling Miss St. and Ole Miss for 5th based on facilities, resources, finances, and talent pool. Now with those same conditions Auburn is 3rd. Now you add Petrinlo to that mix given how great of a game day coach he is and excellent talent developer then Auburn becomes another super power in the west along w/ Bama, LSU, and soon to be A&M. Heck would would probably own Georgia to the point they fire Richt out of frustration. I think you have to take into account Petrino's Scarlet A, that will surely be mentioned early and often on the recruiting trail. I know most players just want to win and get a chance to play in the league, but it will be a challenge Petrino has to overcome. If he comes to AU, he will be an easy target, he better hope he wins early, often, and big....because he will already have 2 strikes against him. Auburn football is already a joke, do we need a punchline as a head coach? Louisville seems to have survived Pitino's "big scarlet 'A'" just fine. It's not the recruiting killer you're making it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwillaub 0 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Everyone said that about Nick Saban in 2007 when he went to Alabama. The end of that story hasn't been written yet. BP is a man without ethics or morals and I DO NOT want him back at AUBURN! It's funny how some of you out there who are wanting the poor excuse of a human are the very same ones making fun of him and condemning him for the Atlanta Falcons screwing and the Arky debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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