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Should U.S. Target ISIS In Syria?


Tigermike

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Iraq was ten years ago. Keep harping on it if you must but we are currently in a new asymetric warfare. There will always be more unkowns heading into battle, now it's all about the adjustments.

well i was replying to the charge that our involvement didnt cause the current problem. it obviously did. you are right as now we have a new war. we just need to look ahead 10 years and ask ourselves if it is worth it. so yes i harp.

You say ask if it's worth it, is there any other choice?

I think we must do something, the question is what exactly? Bombing, special forces is one thing-- deploying troops is another. We can degrade the threat, but we can't fix the country.

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Well, I can see why it is a difficult choice to move into Syria to attack ISIS, as in essence we would be helping al-Assad. If we try to get rid of al-Assad, we are helping ISIS. I don't think it is as simple as just following them across different borders.

The lesser of two evils is ISIS. We must destroy them. And I mean destroy. We are going to have to deal with them one way or the other, and I'd like to start by hitting them in droves.

Not saying I don't want to destroy them, but I also want this to be given careful consideration with those in the government that possess far more information than me on this subject. I want pros and cons weighed, I want to ensure that destroying them does not give rise to an even worse group-- much like we have now seen in Iraq. All I am saying is we need to proceed with caution and make sure we are having very serious conversations with our European allies. We must be on the same page (unlike how we have dealt with those being held by ISIS).

ISIS did not come about because of our involvement in Iraq. That is the big misconception out there. Isis, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qeida, they are all the same. They may have slightly different tactics but they are all the same with the same goal in mind, establishing the worldwide islamic caliphate. ISIS was known under a previous name, which hasn't been told too often. They were one known as Al-Qeida in Iraq.

Iraq was in control of Iraq because the extremist feared Saddam. We removed that fear. We gained nothing by doing so. We gave them what they want and need. so it did come about from our involvement.

do you honesty believe these people would not have come to be without our involvement? You seem to forget that Saddam let AL Qeida train in Iraq. Our going in did not cause this.
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This is a 50 plus year fight. We are not going to win it through Middle East field trips every once and awhile. We need to have a constant footprint there. If the American public is not willing to fight then I don't know if I'm down for the struggle again.

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Well, I can see why it is a difficult choice to move into Syria to attack ISIS, as in essence we would be helping al-Assad. If we try to get rid of al-Assad, we are helping ISIS. I don't think it is as simple as just following them across different borders.

The lesser of two evils is ISIS. We must destroy them. And I mean destroy. We are going to have to deal with them one way or the other, and I'd like to start by hitting them in droves.

Not saying I don't want to destroy them, but I also want this to be given careful consideration with those in the government that possess far more information than me on this subject. I want pros and cons weighed, I want to ensure that destroying them does not give rise to an even worse group-- much like we have now seen in Iraq. All I am saying is we need to proceed with caution and make sure we are having very serious conversations with our European allies. We must be on the same page (unlike how we have dealt with those being held by ISIS).

ISIS did not come about because of our involvement in Iraq. That is the big misconception out there. Isis, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qeida, they are all the same. They may have slightly different tactics but they are all the same with the same goal in mind, establishing the worldwide islamic caliphate. ISIS was known under a previous name, which hasn't been told too often. They were one known as Al-Qeida in Iraq.

Iraq was in control of Iraq because the extremist feared Saddam. We removed that fear. We gained nothing by doing so. We gave them what they want and need. so it did come about from our involvement.

do you honesty believe these people would not have come to be without our involvement? You seem to forget that Saddam let AL Qeida train in Iraq. Our going in did not cause this.

Ignorance is often a choice:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/13/alqaeda.saddam/

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Maybe we should stop looking back and attack the problems of today? There's no good future with ISIS/ISIL in it. Period.

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