autigeremt 6,661 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, and Cam Newton's father discussed play for pay. Let's wait to see what comes out after a legal investigation or a trial. If they broke the law, then shame on them and let them suffer the consequences. Hillary says "hello"....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,509 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, and Cam Newton's father discussed play for pay. Let's wait to see what comes out after a legal investigation or a trial. If they broke the law, then shame on them and let them suffer the consequences. Ok. So StemExpress just tells clinics it's financially profitable for them even though profiting from this stuff is illegal. They're just making s*** up. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,426 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, and Cam Newton's father discussed play for pay. Let's wait to see what comes out after a legal investigation or a trial. If they broke the law, then shame on them and let them suffer the consequences. Ok. So StemExpress just tells clinics it's financially profitable for them even though profiting from this stuff is illegal. They're just making s*** up. Gotcha. OK. So Cam's father discussed payment for Cam's services with Miss. State but Cam came to Auburn and played without being paid? Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,509 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, and Cam Newton's father discussed play for pay. Let's wait to see what comes out after a legal investigation or a trial. If they broke the law, then shame on them and let them suffer the consequences. Ok. So StemExpress just tells clinics it's financially profitable for them even though profiting from this stuff is illegal. They're just making s*** up. Gotcha. OK. So Cam's father discussed payment for Cam's services with Miss. State but Cam came to Auburn and played without being paid? Gotcha. Because highly regulated industries with rules about not only the selling babies but about false advertising are the exact same thing as private, under the radar conversations between some guy's dad and some backwater boosters. Keep spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,426 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, and Cam Newton's father discussed play for pay. Let's wait to see what comes out after a legal investigation or a trial. If they broke the law, then shame on them and let them suffer the consequences. Ok. So StemExpress just tells clinics it's financially profitable for them even though profiting from this stuff is illegal. They're just making s*** up. Gotcha. OK. So Cam's father discussed payment for Cam's services with Miss. State but Cam came to Auburn and played without being paid? Gotcha. Because highly regulated industries with rules about not only the selling babies but about false advertising are the exact same thing as private, under the radar conversations between some guy's dad and some backwater boosters. Keep spinning. Same principle. Keep obfuscating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,509 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, and Cam Newton's father discussed play for pay. Let's wait to see what comes out after a legal investigation or a trial. If they broke the law, then shame on them and let them suffer the consequences. Ok. So StemExpress just tells clinics it's financially profitable for them even though profiting from this stuff is illegal. They're just making s*** up. Gotcha. OK. So Cam's father discussed payment for Cam's services with Miss. State but Cam came to Auburn and played without being paid? Gotcha. Because highly regulated industries with rules about not only the selling babies but about false advertising are the exact same thing as private, under the radar conversations between some guy's dad and some backwater boosters. Keep spinning. Same principle. Keep obfuscating. Only if you ignore every relevant detail. Not analogous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,426 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, and Cam Newton's father discussed play for pay. Let's wait to see what comes out after a legal investigation or a trial. If they broke the law, then shame on them and let them suffer the consequences. Ok. So StemExpress just tells clinics it's financially profitable for them even though profiting from this stuff is illegal. They're just making s*** up. Gotcha. OK. So Cam's father discussed payment for Cam's services with Miss. State but Cam came to Auburn and played without being paid? Gotcha. Because highly regulated industries with rules about not only the selling babies but about false advertising are the exact same thing as private, under the radar conversations between some guy's dad and some backwater boosters. Keep spinning. Same principle. Keep obfuscating. Only if you ignore every relevant detail. Not analogous. The details aren't relevant. The principle involved is the same, which makes it a valid analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,426 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 States Try To Dig Up Planned Parenthood Violations, Fail Miserably "......Conservatives and anti-abortion activists have argued that Planned Parenthood is illegally benefiting from the sales, but the health organization says that any associated fees are simply to cover the cost of processing, storage and transfer of the tissues for medical research, and that all donations are made voluntarily. Planned Parenthood has said the videos are misleading and heavily edited.... A number of states followed Congress' lead, declaring investigations of their own. But many of those probes -- in Georgia, Indiana, Massachusetts and South Dakota -- have found area Planned Parenthood affiliates to be in full compliance with state laws and regulations. “In every state where these investigations have concluded, officials have cleared Planned Parenthood of any wrongdoing," said Dawn Laguens, executive vice president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, in a statement Friday. "We've said all along that Planned Parenthood follows all laws and has very high medical standards, and that's what every one of these investigations has found. This campaign by anti-abortion extremists is nothing less than a fraud, intended to deceive the public with patently false claims in order to pursue an extreme political agenda." Laguens added that while Planned Parenthood will continue to cooperate with any investigations, "the public does not want elected officials spending time and money looking into bogus claims that are just part of a political agenda....." http://www.huffingto...9d1490?q21n61or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcivE09 582 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I just think it is ridiculous to cross Ben off the list over Planned Parenthood. If we are actually going to judge our next president solely over this issue - or even act like it is close to our biggest problem then we are pretty screwed. Handling PP should be secondary at best - but it sure gets our blood boiling. More than likely the only reason any GOP candidate wants to defund them is because of the hundreds of thousands of dollars they have shuffled off to the democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 AUcivE09=BOOM! I completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,661 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I just think it is ridiculous to cross Ben off the list over Planned Parenthood. If we are actually going to judge our next president solely over this issue - or even act like it is close to our biggest problem then we are pretty screwed. Handling PP should be secondary at best - but it sure gets our blood boiling. More than likely the only reason any GOP candidate wants to defund them is because of the hundreds of thousands of dollars they have shuffled off to the democrats. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,661 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 States Try To Dig Up Planned Parenthood Violations, Fail Miserably "......Conservatives and anti-abortion activists have argued that Planned Parenthood is illegally benefiting from the sales, but the health organization says that any associated fees are simply to cover the cost of processing, storage and transfer of the tissues for medical research, and that all donations are made voluntarily. Planned Parenthood has said the videos are misleading and heavily edited.... A number of states followed Congress' lead, declaring investigations of their own. But many of those probes -- in Georgia, Indiana, Massachusetts and South Dakota -- have found area Planned Parenthood affiliates to be in full compliance with state laws and regulations. “In every state where these investigations have concluded, officials have cleared Planned Parenthood of any wrongdoing," said Dawn Laguens, executive vice president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, in a statement Friday. "We've said all along that Planned Parenthood follows all laws and has very high medical standards, and that's what every one of these investigations has found. This campaign by anti-abortion extremists is nothing less than a fraud, intended to deceive the public with patently false claims in order to pursue an extreme political agenda." Laguens added that while Planned Parenthood will continue to cooperate with any investigations, "the public does not want elected officials spending time and money looking into bogus claims that are just part of a political agenda....." http://www.huffingto...9d1490?q21n61or It's bad PR and a moral "standard". Nothing more....but it should be universally unacceptable but it's not because we see life inside separate boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,426 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I just think it is ridiculous to cross Ben off the list over Planned Parenthood. If we are actually going to judge our next president solely over this issue - or even act like it is close to our biggest problem then we are pretty screwed. Handling PP should be secondary at best - but it sure gets our blood boiling. More than likely the only reason any GOP candidate wants to defund them is because of the hundreds of thousands of dollars they have shuffled off to the democrats. That is an ironically backwards way of looking at the money angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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