AgentOrange 36 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I don't remember this happening when Obama was elected: http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2016/11/as_anger_over_election_of_dona_1.html#incart_river_home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Obama's not a racist demagogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 5 hours ago, homersapien said: Obama's not a racist demagogue. Nor was his late grandmother, you know, that typical white person. Generally, when one is accused of being racist, there can be examples of where that racism has been displayed. Trump has no such examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-HANDLEY-TIGER 205 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 The quote from one "gentleman" about how he will divide the country is priceless he obviously doesn't get out much because that ship has sailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 5 hours ago, AURaptor said: Nor was his late grandmother, you know, that typical white person. Generally, when one is accused of being racist, there can be examples of where that racism has been displayed. Trump has no such examples. There are ample examples of him being a racist demagogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 5 hours ago, AU-HANDLEY-TIGER said: The quote from one "gentleman" about how he will divide the country is priceless he obviously doesn't get out much because that ship has sailed. I thought Trump saying it's time for the country to come together was priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, homersapien said: There are ample examples of him being a racist demagogue. None of which you can cite. OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I wonder what percentage of the demonstrators voted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 31 minutes ago, AURaptor said: None of which you can cite. OK How about: Questioning the qualifications of a federal judge based exclusively on that judge's ethnic descent? Characterizing members of a particular nationality/ethnic group as 'rapists' and 'drug dealers'? Supporting 'stop and frisk' policies already found unconstitutional/biased by a federal court for our inner cities? Saying "I don't want blacks counting my money, I want the guys who wear beanies"? Being slow to reject David Duke's endorsement early in the primaries? Referring to an African-American attendee at one of his rallies as "My 'Black' "? Encouraging his supporters to engage in vigilante monitoring of polling places in other precincts? "You know what I'm talking about..." Suggesting our inner cities/African-American neighborhoods are 'more dangerous than war zones like Afghanistan'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, quietfan said: How about: Questioning the qualifications of a federal judge based exclusively on that judge's ethnic descent? Characterizing members of a particular nationality/ethnic group as 'rapists' and 'drug dealers'? Supporting 'stop and frisk' policies already found unconstitutional/biased by a federal court for our inner cities? Saying "I don't want blacks counting my money, I want the guys who wear beanies"? Being slow to reject David Duke's endorsement early in the primaries? Referring to an African-American attendee at one of his rallies as "My 'Black' "? Encouraging his supporters to engage in vigilante monitoring of polling places in other precincts? "You know what I'm talking about..." Suggesting our inner cities/African-American neighborhoods are 'more dangerous than war zones like Afghanistan'? The closet racists will always deny the politics of race. Both sides play race to their perceived advantage. It will be interesting to see what Trump does now. Ultimately, I think race is irrelevant. Will he serve the majority of Americans or, those with political and economic power? Is the politics of race more rhetoric than reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 @quiet - nope. Inferences & vaguely phrased innuendo isn't in any way citations of any racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Regarding the thread topic: I support the right of people to peacefully protest and/or voice their freedom of speech. Such post-election protests, of course, have zero impact on the results of the election and have no Constitutional power to change the results, so in that respect they are pointless. But as merely an expression of unhappiness or a rallying call for future elections, it's certainly everyone's right. I did not vote for Trump and I am extremely disappointing that he won. But I recognize him as my duly elected President-elect and do not question his authority to govern. I don't think American elections are 'rigged'. Nor do I care to emigrate or secede from my home and, to my mind, still the greatest nation on earth. But while I recognize Trump's legal authority as the properly elected President, I will continue to speak out for justice, equality, and freedom for all PERSONS, of every ethnicity, religion, gender, and sexual orientation while opposing war, bigotry, hate, and plutocracy, and consider it my civic duty to criticize specific actions of any President with whom I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 hour ago, AURaptor said: None of which you can cite. OK That's BS and you know it. Do you have memory issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, AURaptor said: @quiet - nope. Inferences & vaguely phrased innuendo isn't in any way citations of any racism. Exactly. They are deliberate cynical plays directed toward racists, so that's a distinction without a difference. But it's natural that a closet racist would support hiding behind such dog whistles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 15 minutes ago, AURaptor said: @quiet - nope. Inferences & vaguely phrased innuendo isn't in any way citations of any racism. Vaguely phrased innuendo can most certainly be racist. Very few racists in this country outside of the KKK and their ilk come out publicly to overtly declare their racism. But you are certainly within your rights to 'infer' that the examples I see as clear examples of racism are false inferences on my part. Doesn't mean you are necessarily correct or that I must agree, but it's your right even if I consider it incorrect or voluntary selective blindness. You are also fully entitled to consider me incorrect or voluntarily blind...it neither offends nor concerns me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,125 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Racist, racist, everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80Tiger 899 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 13 hours ago, AgentOrange said: I don't remember this happening when Obama was elected: http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2016/11/as_anger_over_election_of_dona_1.html#incart_river_home Because while extremely disappointed, most got up and went to work the next day and respected how the process worked, not pitch a fit like child who didn't get their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japantiger 4,051 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 2 hours ago, icanthearyou said: I wonder what percentage of the demonstrators voted? Good question....I wonder what % were paid to be there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 minute ago, japantiger said: Good question....I wonder what % were paid to be there? I wonder who would have paid them and, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 14 hours ago, AgentOrange said: I don't remember this happening when Obama was elected: http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2016/11/as_anger_over_election_of_dona_1.html#incart_river_home Were there outright protests? No. Were people questioning the legitimacy of Obama's win based on false pretenses of brotherism? Yep. And some of that came from Republican leadership. It should be noted that not a single Democratic leader has questioned the election results, their legitimacy, etc. In fact, it's been a chorus of "let's respect the will of the people and have a peaceful transfer of power" largely based on the grace that Bush 43 showed when he left office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savorytiger 182 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: Were there outright protests? No. Were people questioning the legitimacy of Obama's win based on false pretenses of brotherism? Yep. And some of that came from Republican leadership. It should be noted that not a single Democratic leader has questioned the election results, their legitimacy, etc. In fact, it's been a chorus of "let's respect the will of the people and have a peaceful transfer of power" largely based on the grace that Bush 43 showed when he left office. I dunno about trying to excuse it. People simply have a strong dislike for Trump and I am not surprised at all that these are happening. This election has been our most divided yet. There's nothing wrong with the protests as long as it doesn't spill into violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,879 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 People just need to get over it... Time for someone to kill another gorilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, Mims44 said: People just need to get over it... Time for someone to kill another gorilla. How about an elephant (endangered) or a leopard (endangered)? People who trophy hunt endangered animals are a-holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,879 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, homersapien said: How about an elephant (endangered) or a leopard (endangered)? People who trophy hunt endangered animals are a-holes. Always seem smug too, when I tell them I don't hunt animals. I love to see them crap their pants when I tell them I only hunt humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I have no problem with hunting as long as it's compatible with the ecology of the animal hunted, such as deer or doves. Hunting things like endangered big game or predators is perverted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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