rollingtoomers 4 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Looking through 247's prospect rankings, it appears we only have one commitment rated in the top 100. Even though we have a good number of 4 stars and are sitting at the number 10 class, it seems like we are a little light on the top tier recruits. This makes me think we might have some that could be underrated. What are y'alls thoughts? Is there any commit that you think is underrated and should be in the top 100 and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,598 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, rollingtoomers said: Looking through 247's prospect rankings, it appears we only have one commitment rated in the top 100. Even though we have a good number of 4 stars and are sitting at the number 10 class, it seems like we are a little light on the top tier recruits. This makes me think we might have some that could be underrated. What are y'alls thoughts? Is there any commit that you think is underrated and should be in the top 100 and why? Q. Monday and J. Irvin are certainly under rated. There may be others here and there that need a bump but those two are "not even in the ballpark" under rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Monday seems like Moultry last year. They moved him up late in the process, but it wasn't enough. I felt last year like you could see Moultry as a lock to contribute as a true freshman, but he was still just a mid-tier 4* on Rivals. That was too low, and he proved it this year. I feel the same way about Monday. He's a rotation guy, potentially a starter, as a true freshman on a very, very good defense, but he's a low 4* on Rivals. That's silly. Newkirk is the one I really think is underrated. He looks dynamic inside. I'll be really surprised if he's not immediately in the rotation in a loaded DT group. I know the JUCO rankings are always a little screwy, but he's underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUinGA44 265 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Monday is the best safety prospect in the southeast, possibly the country. He’s also got an awesome personality. Expect him to play early and unfortunately only be on the Plains for 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingtoomers 4 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 What about Asa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUtigers2324 42 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 hours ago, mcgufcm said: Monday seems like Moultry last year. They moved him up late in the process, but it wasn't enough. I felt last year like you could see Moultry as a lock to contribute as a true freshman, but he was still just a mid-tier 4* on Rivals. That was too low, and he proved it this year. I feel the same way about Monday. He's a rotation guy, potentially a starter, as a true freshman on a very, very good defense, but he's a low 4* on Rivals. That's silly. Newkirk is the one I really think is underrated. He looks dynamic inside. I'll be really surprised if he's not immediately in the rotation in a loaded DT group. I know the JUCO rankings are always a little screwy, but he's underrated. Do we know Newkirk's current weight? Rivals has him at 290 & 247 has him at 282. On signing day the AU Football account tweeted out 260. Big difference that could determine how much of an impact he makes next season and at what position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corchjay 5,311 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I'm going to give my opinion on each of our commits. Ratings based off 247 composite Gatewood - rated about right Monday - rated about right Seth Williams - very very slightly under rated McClain - slightly over rated Asa Martin - rated about right Tutt - slightly over rated Sherwood - underrated Harris - slightly under rated Oladele - rated about right Shivers - rated about right Irvin - underrated Newkirk - slightly under rated Jackson - rated about right Stutts - rated about right Marsh - slightly under rated Unsigned Guys Hill - slightly over rated Miller - underrated Jibunor - over rated Fuqua - slightly under rated Siposs - no clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corchjay 5,311 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 14 hours ago, rollingtoomers said: Looking through 247's prospect rankings, it appears we only have one commitment rated in the top 100. Even though we have a good number of 4 stars and are sitting at the number 10 class, it seems like we are a little light on the top tier recruits. This makes me think we might have some that could be underrated. What are y'alls thoughts? Is there any commit that you think is underrated and should be in the top 100 and why? I also wanted to comment on this as well. This is a very solid class. Just no huge star power but no bad players that it appears as. I think this class per player will finish up somewhere around the Top 4 or 5 for AU all time per player average. This is kind of how I break down the ratings. 95 and above - 4 year solid contributor (starter 3 years) 92-95 - 3 year solid contributor (starter 2 years) 89-92 - 2 year solid contributor (possible starter late in career) 89 and below - role player unless a specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, corchjay said: Jibunor - over rated Please elaborate if you don't mind/have time. I've been excited about this guy based off sheer athleticism and what I perceive to be a fondness for contact, but I'm not qualified to break down film beyond that. In my daydreams, he's a Keanu Neal/Deion Jones/Kam Chancellor hybrid... who is evidently going to play a completely different position from all of them... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corchjay 5,311 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 minute ago, McLoofus said: Please elaborate if you don't mind/have time. I've been excited about this guy based off sheer athleticism and what I perceive to be a fondness for contact, but I'm not qualified to break down film beyond that. In my daydreams, he's a Keanu Neal/Deion Jones/Kam Chancellor hybrid... who is evidently going to play a completely different position from all of them... lol. He's very very undersized and I'm not sure his frame can handle 240lbs and still keep his quickness and burst which is what makes him effective. He's sorta like Dee Ford but you could tell from Ford's frame he could put on pounds although it was very hard for him. Jibunor is counted on being a Buck/WDE/OLB, and mainly a pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, corchjay said: He's very very undersized and I'm not sure his frame can handle 240lbs and still keep his quickness and burst which is what makes him effective. He's sorta like Dee Ford but you could tell from Ford's frame he could put on pounds although it was very hard for him. Jibunor is counted on being a Buck/WDE/OLB, and mainly a pass rusher. I recently brought up the Dee Ford comparison, but I'm going to put that on hold for a bit because I forgot that Dee was a weight room legend. All the stories about him carrying a milk jug full of water around, bribing security at the fitness center to let him in after hours, etc. Jib might have that in him, but we certainly can't count on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corchjay 5,311 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Just now, McLoofus said: I recently brought up the Dee Ford comparison, but I'm going to put that on hold for a bit because I forgot that Dee was a weight room legend. All the stories about him carrying a milk jug full of water around, bribing security at the fitness center to let him in after hours, etc. Jib might have that in him, but we certainly can't count on it. That and just basic frame Dee seemed to be built with a larger frame. Like wider shoulders and such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthGATiger 1,801 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, McLoofus said: Please elaborate if you don't mind/have time. I've been excited about this guy based off sheer athleticism and what I perceive to be a fondness for contact, but I'm not qualified to break down film beyond that. In my daydreams, he's a Keanu Neal/Deion Jones/Kam Chancellor hybrid... who is evidently going to play a completely different position from all of them... lol. I think it will be a big mistake for the staff to pigeon hole him at Buck. If it were me this kid would never put a hand on the ground. Great athleticism as a backer who can cover and play sideline to sideline. Think Deion Jones instead of Dee Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,096 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Ford had/has broad shoulders, but he has like a 29 inch waist or something like that. He's a narrow dude. He played at 190 lbs. as a true freshman in 2009 (which was bordering on dangerous for his health... he got flattened like a folding chair a few times against Bama that year). The way I see Jibunor is, he's either going to be a terror off the edge as a Buck/DE or he's going to slide back to OLB in the Darrell Williams role of coverage and pass rushing. Williams, at times, seemed to play more of a hybrid role than the Buck position did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,525 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I would expect RJ to play more OLB than Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,066 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I know next year wr from Florence named cadarrius Thompson athletically has everything. Somebody get him here and coach him, you have an NFL.we in the making and I don't think he's ranked high, but he was first team 6A all state junior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnNTexas 7,147 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 The Punter from Australia. All kickers are underrated as they are almost all 3*'s. But when you get one who changes field position for you it really helps your team. It has been a while since our Punter was a field changer. From his highlights he has that type of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeek 16,650 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, AuburnNTexas said: The Punter from Australia. All kickers are underrated as they are almost all 3*'s. But when you get one who changes field position for you it really helps your team. It has been a while since our Punter was a field changer. From his highlights he has that type of potential. Ask the Turds how much a kicker matters lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonAU 4,606 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Zeek said: Ask the Turds how much a kicker matters lol Enough to win 5 National Championships in 8 years I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,093 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ClaytonAU said: Enough to win 5 National Championships in 8 years I guess But it was despite their kicking sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnNTexas 7,147 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 17 hours ago, Zeek said: Ask the Turds how much a kicker matters lol FG kicker was weak for the Turds but their Punter kept changing Field Position. Their Punter was one of the best in the SEC this year and really helped them keep other teams pinned in their own ends. With the D we had this year that type of Punter changes our year. LSU punt return doesn't happen so we win even with Gus going super conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeek 16,650 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, AuburnNTexas said: FG kicker was weak for the Turds but their Punter kept changing Field Position. Their Punter was one of the best in the SEC this year and really helped them keep other teams pinned in their own ends. With the D we had this year that type of Punter changes our year. LSU punt return doesn't happen so we win even with Gus going super conservative. I think we're making the same point. I'm simply making jest at how Alabama has struggled with field goals at crucial moments and that shows the importance of a kicker. If they had a half decent kicker they wouldn't have to of gone into overtime with the dawgs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnNTexas 7,147 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 You are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthGATiger 1,801 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 12/27/2017 at 4:38 PM, rollingtoomers said: Looking through 247's prospect rankings, it appears we only have one commitment rated in the top 100. Even though we have a good number of 4 stars and are sitting at the number 10 class, it seems like we are a little light on the top tier recruits. This makes me think we might have some that could be underrated. What are y'alls thoughts? Is there any commit that you think is underrated and should be in the top 100 and why? I think the difference in top 10 and top 5 is what really separates the good teams from the great ones. You can't have iron sharpens iron if there is nobody equally as good to push the star player. I think there are a few positions at Auburn where there are really good battles for playing time. I think mostly though that the best players we have get playing time without grinding day in and day out against equal competition. We just saw Freshman all over the field in the Championship game. Who is really pushing who for playing time at Auburn? QB- Nope RB- Nope WR- Maybe but nobody has broken into the line up outside of Gus' original starters OL- Probably had some good battles DL/DE- I know Garner had these guys going at it CB- Nope Safety- Nope Kick and punt returner- Nope It takes great talent battling great talent everyday for a position to play to be a great team. That's where a team that signs 7 or 8 of the top 30 players in the country has the advantage. I just don't see players being pushed by other players in fear of losing a spot on our roster right now. Thats where we need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredst 9,064 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, NorthGATiger said: I think the difference in top 10 and top 5 is what really separates the good teams from the great ones. You can't have iron sharpens iron if there is nobody equally as good to push the star player. I think there are a few positions at Auburn where there are really good battles for playing time. I think mostly though that the best players we have get playing time without grinding day in and day out against equal competition. We just saw Freshman all over the field in the Championship game. Who is really pushing who for playing time at Auburn? QB- Nope RB- Nope WR- Maybe but nobody has broken into the line up outside of Gus' original starters OL- Probably had some good battles DL/DE- I know Garner had these guys going at it CB- Nope Safety- Nope Kick and punt returner- Nope It takes great talent battling great talent everyday for a position to play to be a great team. That's where a team that signs 7 or 8 of the top 30 players in the country has the advantage. I just don't see players being pushed by other players in fear of losing a spot on our roster right now. Thats where we need to be. I don’t know. Given Gus’ apparent pattern not sure that the talent isn’t there so much as it isn’t being given fair opportunity to really compete for PT (that’s the perception at least) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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