Converative columnist Mona Charen booed, escorted out (for her safety?) at CPAC

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The crazies have taken over.  Charen's conservative credentials are above reproach.  But she was deemed guilty of ungoodthink (i.e. telling the truth) about our dear leader and the party.  And we just can't have that, now can we?

 

 

 

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I’m Glad I Got Booed at CPAC

By MONA CHAREN

FEB. 25, 2018

I’ve been a conservative my entire life. I fell hard for William F. Buckley as a teenager and my first job was as editorial assistant at Buckley’s National Review, followed by stints writing speeches for first lady Nancy Reagan and then working for the Gipper himself. Looking toward the 1988 race, Vice President George H.W. Bush wasn’t conservative enough for me. I went to work as a speechwriter for Representative Jack Kemp in 1986.

So you’d think that the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, would be a natural fit. It once was. But on Saturday, after speaking to this year’s gathering, I had to be escorted from the premises by several guards who seemed genuinely concerned for my safety.

What happened to me at CPAC is the perfect illustration of the collective experience of a whole swath of conservatives since Donald Trump became the Republican nominee. We built and organized this party — but now we’re made to feel like interlopers.

I was surprised that I was even asked to speak at CPAC. My views on Trump, Roy Moore and Steve Bannon are no secret. I knew the crowd would be hostile, and so I was tempted to pass.

But too many of us have given up the fight. We’ve let disgust and dismay lead us to withdraw while bad actors take control of the direction of our movement. I know how encouraged I feel whenever someone simply states the truth, and so I decided to accept CPAC’s invitation.

Like the Republican Party, CPAC has become heavily Trumpified. Last year, they invited alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos (and withdrew the invitation only after lewd tapes surfaced). This year, in addition to the president and vice president, CPAC invited Marion Maréchal-Le Pen, granddaughter of Jean-Marie Le Pen and niece of National Front leader Marine Le Pen.

Matt Schlapp, CPAC’s chairman, described her as a “classical liberal” on Twitter. This is utter nonsense. Ms. Maréchal-Le Pen is a member of the National Front party, and far from distancing herself from her Holocaust-denying, anti-Semitic and racist grandfather, she has offered him a more full-throated endorsement than her aunt has. “I am the political heir of Jean-Marie Le Pen,” Maréchal-Le Pen told the Washington Post last year. “He was a visionary. He was right about a lot of things.”

So it has come to this: a conservative group whose worst fault in years past may have been excessive flat tax enthusiasm now opens its doors to the blood and soil nationalists of Europe.

While there were reasonable, mainstream Republican speakers at CPAC, the lineup also featured demagogues like Sheriff David Clarke Jr.  While he oversaw the Milwaukee County jail, one pregnant prisoner was repeatedly raped, and several prisoners died in the space of just six months. One was a mentally ill man who was denied water for seven days. No matter. The sheriff was cheered by the CPAC crowd.

My panel was about the #MeToo movement, which was a natural for me since my new book coming out in June, “Sex Matters,” grapples with the movement and other aspects of our fraught sexual ecosystem.

After every woman on the panel had a chance to speak and with 10 minutes remaining on the clock, the moderator threw a slow pitch right over the plate. She asked us about feminist hypocrisy. Ask me that at a cocktail party and I will talk your ear off about how the very people who had lectured us about the utter venality of workplace sexual harassment throughout the 1980s became suddenly quiescent when the malefactor was Bill Clinton.

But this time, and particularly in front of this crowd, it felt far more urgent to point out the hypocrisy of our side. How can conservative women hope to have any credibility on the subject of sexual harassment or relations between the sexes when they excuse the behavior of President Trump? And how can we participate in any conversation about sexual ethics when the Republican president and the Republican Party backed a man credibly accused of child molestation for the United States Senate?

I watched my fellow panelists’ eyes widen. And then the booing began.

I’d been dreading it for days, but when it came, I almost welcomed it. There is nothing more freeing than telling the truth. And it must be done, again and again, by those of us who refuse to be absorbed into this brainless, sinister, clownish thing called Trumpism, by those of us who refuse to overlook the fools, frauds and fascists attempting to glide along in his slipstream into respectability.

I spoke to a hostile audience for the sake of every person who has watched this spectacle of mendacity in disbelief and misery for the past two years. Just hearing the words you know are true can serve as ballast, steadying your mind when so much seems unreal.

For traditional conservatives, the past two years have felt like a Twilight Zone episode. Politicians, activists and intellectuals have succumbed with numbing regularity, betraying every principle they once claimed to uphold. But there remains a vigorous remnant of dissenters. I hear from them. There were even some at CPAC.

A substantial number of people applauded. And as I was hustled out of the building by security, various supporters gave me the thumbs up sign.

Just before I reached the exit, a woman approached me and called my name. “That was so brave!” she told me.

She was one of my fellow panelists. I hope she’s encouraged. I am.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/25/opinion/im-glad-i-got-booed-at-cpac.html

 

 

 

 

 

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The GOP is now the Shitlord party.

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17 minutes ago, AUDub said:

The GOP is now the Shitlord party.

What does "Shitlord party" mean?

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23 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said:

What does "Shitlord party" mean?

 

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“Shitlord” is a pejorative often used on the Internet against those who are perceived as racist, sexist, homophobic, fat shaming or otherwise prejudicial. The term is often employed by those involved in the online social justice movement to call out bigoted shitposting.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/shitlord

 

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One either rejects Trump for who and what he is, or becomes corrupted by accepting him.

I don't see how the Republican party recovers from this without an intellectual and moral schism.  

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......Charen’s outpouring of dissent accentuated how quickly and completely CPAC has become a pro-Trump gathering, just two years removed from him skipping the event because of a planned walk-out among conservatives who opposed his candidacy. Late Friday morning, with a standing-room-only ballroom full of conservative activists thundering down applause, Trump told of the “horrendous” immigrants taking advantage of our visa lottery system. He warned of dangerous and unproductive people arriving via “chain migration.” And then, underscoring these threats, the president dusted off “The Snake,” a ballad he often recited on the campaign trail, which likens immigrants welcomed by America to a venomous serpent that bites and kills the woman who took it in.

It seemed to set a tone. Gaffney, invited back to CPAC after being banished from the event for years, warned that most of the Chinese nationals in the United States are here to spy on Americans. A short while later, Rick Ungar, a left-wing radio host whom Schlapp invited for a panel discussion, was booed when he described a naturalization ceremony—and again when he said that Mexican immigrants have “more in common” with conservatives than liberals. That night, Schlapp’s communications director, Ian Walters, stunned attendees of the event’s trademark Ronald Reagan Dinner by saying the Republican National Committee elected Michael Steele as chairman in 2009 “because he’s a black guy.”

All of this in one day—and less than 24 hours after the Trump administration changed the mission statement of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services agency to remove the phrase, “a nation of immigrants.”

“None of this happens in a vacuum,” Steele told me Saturday morning, still visibly upset by Walters’ remark. Steele said that Schlapp had apologized to him but then pointed to Steele’s criticisms of Trump and the Republican Party. “And I’m like, ‘Yeah? What the hell does that have to do with what your guy said from the podium last night?' He was twisting it back on me,” Steele said. “There are people who have an attitude regarding race in this party that needs to be cleansed out. Otherwise this party will die from it.”......

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/25/donald-trump-conservatism-cpac-2018-217081

 

 

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6 hours ago, homersapien said:

One either rejects Trump for who and what he is, or becomes corrupted by accepting him.

I don't see how the Republican party recovers from this without an intellectual and moral schism.  

What a pathetically delusional and incompetent ultimatum. *THIS IS COMBATIVE TOWARDS THE COMMENT, not the person who produced it****

i mean good grief, if the man is that bad, then what does it say about the Democratic Party that couldn’t defeat him? And don’t bring up the “popular vote” BS either. 

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17 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said:

What a pathetically delusional and incompetent ultimatum. *THIS IS COMBATIVE TOWARDS THE COMMENT, not the person who produced it****

i mean good grief, if the man is that bad, then what does it say about the Democratic Party that couldn’t defeat him? And don’t bring up the “popular vote” BS either. 

"ultimatum"?         

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Just now, homersapien said:

"ultimatum"?         

Either reject Trump, or become corrupted by accepting him. Those are “the” options right?

 

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1 minute ago, NolaAuTiger said:

Either reject Trump, or become corrupted by accepting him. Those are “the” options right?

 

Yes  

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10 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Yes  

On to the second part of my initial response or do you forfeit for a lack of sufficient rebuttal? (My ultimatum I guess)

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9 hours ago, NolaAuTiger said:

Either reject Trump, or become corrupted by accepting him. Those are “the” options right?

I mean, I suppose you could keep a viper around like you would a puppy.  Just don't be surprised if at some point you're on the wrong end of a poisonous bite.

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55 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

I mean, I suppose you could keep a viper around like you would a puppy.  Just don't be surprised if at some point you're on the wrong end of a poisonous bite.

So Trump is the viper? If I 'follow' him eventually he could "bite" me in the figurative sense? You'll need to explain more. What power might the Executive exercise that will harm me in a tangible way? 

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1 hour ago, NolaAuTiger said:

So Trump is the viper? If I 'follow' him eventually he could "bite" me in the figurative sense? You'll need to explain more. What power might the Executive exercise that will harm me in a tangible way? 

I think homer explained it pretty well already.  But to expound, when you're dealing with a person of low moral character, your decisions on how you deal with that have an effect on you whether you like it or not.  When you see wrong words and actions from them and you consistently ignore, or worse, excuse them, you dull or do damage to your own moral conscience and faculties.  When you hold them accountable for those wrong words and actions (even if as you seek to find areas of agreement in other ways), you are forming your moral faculties and strengthening them.  There's a reason the Bible says "bad company corrupts good character."  And I don't think it only applies to close friends.

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1 hour ago, TitanTiger said:

I think homer explained it pretty well already.  But to expound, when you're dealing with a person of low moral character, your decisions on how you deal with that have an effect on you whether you like it or not.  When you see wrong words and actions from them and you consistently ignore, or worse, excuse them, you dull or do damage to your own moral conscience and faculties.  When you hold them accountable for those wrong words and actions (even if as you seek to find areas of agreement in other ways), you are forming your moral faculties and strengthening them.  There's a reason the Bible says "bad company corrupts good character."  And I don't think it only applies to close friends.

I’ll save your poor exegesis for another time, unless you want me to address it now.

You assume that one who supports Trump necessarily excused/excuses his shortcomings. What bad reasoning.

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Ignoring is pretty much the moral equivalent of excusing.

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11 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said:

I’ll save your poor exegesis for another time, unless you want me to address it now.

You assume that one who supports Trump necessarily excused/excuses his shortcomings. What bad reasoning.

How about save it for never?  I weary of your mental gymnastic exercises and only have so much time in the day.

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12 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

How about save it for never?  I weary of your mental gymnastic exercises and only have so much time in the day.

You’re  aware of how the exercises often penetrate your porous claims. Ha

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5 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said:

You’re  aware of how the exercises often penetrate your porous claims. Ha

You're a legend in your own mind.

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Did anyone see the CPAC speaker who said Michael Steele (former head of the RNC) only got the job because he was black?  Yeesh

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22 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said:

Did anyone see the CPAC speaker who said Michael Steele (former head of the RNC) only got the job because he was black?  Yeesh

I read about that in the course of digging into this Charen issue.

Yowza.  I used to wonder why black people consistently voted Democrat even though on social/moral issues they were much more aligned with conservatives.  But if comments like that are indicative of the vibe black folks have been picking up for decades now, no wonder they don't vote Republican.

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6 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

I read about that in the course of digging into this Charen issue.

Yowza.  I used to wonder why black people consistently voted Democrat even though on social/moral issues they were much more aligned with conservatives.  But if comments like that are indicative of the vibe black folks have been picking up for decades now, no wonder they don't vote Republican.

That's part of the story going back to Goldwater. 

Another part is that black folks overwhelmingly gravitate toward the dems because they see government as a source for employment opportunities, protection from long-standing discrimination and the social safety net.

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The moral factor being mentioned here is what the "Conservatives" talked about during the Clinton years. Funny, they totally forget about it now that Cheeto is in power. 

You either have real morals or you just give lip service to them. I disrespected the Dems kissing Clinton's butt back then, I disrespect Reps kissing Cheetos' butt now.

You either have character or you dont.

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4 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

The moral factor being mentioned here is what the "Consevatives" talked about during the Clinton years. Funny, they totally forget about it now that Chetto is in power. 

You either have real morals or you just give lip service to them. I disrespected the Dems kissing Clintons butt back then, I disrespect Reps kissing Cheetos' butt now.

You either have character or you dont.

You're a fine one to speak about character, after calling me a liar and refusing to back down when you couldn't produce the lie.

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Homer, someone saved you the embarrassment by taking down my original reply. 

You know you are lying now. Just like you were lying then. 

Grow up and move on.