AFTiger 282 Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, homersapien said: So, in your mind, science is a fraud. Isn't that what I just said? You don't believe in science. I feel like am talking to a child. That is not what I said and you should know that. I cite for one example the debunked and infamous hockey stick author Michael Mann. You seem to have forgotten the scandalous events at UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) where the science was cooked. Mann and cooperating scientists influenced science publications to reject papers questioning "consensus" of climate change. That is fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 17 hours ago, AFTiger said: I feel like am talking to a child. That is not what I said and you should know that. I cite for one example the debunked and infamous hockey stick author Michael Mann. You seem to have forgotten the scandalous events at UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) where the science was cooked. Mann and cooperating scientists influenced science publications to reject papers questioning "consensus" of climate change. That is fraud. Yeah, it's one big global scientific hoax. Virtually all of the climatic and related scientists around the world - not to mention every serious scientific professional organization are complicit in it. They aren't just wrong, they are perpetuating a hoax. (No doubt you know their motivation.) All of the data that supports AGW theory is fake. The world is not getting warmer, it's getting cooler. Are you satisfied now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFTiger 282 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Pitiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Sue 325 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Maybe NASA has it right. https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-30-nasa-admits-climate-change-not-caused-by-suvs-fossil-fuels.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Tiger Sue said: Maybe NASA has it right. https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-30-nasa-admits-climate-change-not-caused-by-suvs-fossil-fuels.html Good grief. You probably took this seriously, didn't you Sue? "(Natural News) For more than 60 years, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has known that the changes occurring to planetary weather patterns are completely natural and normal. But the space agency, for whatever reason, has chosen to let the man-made global warming hoax persist and spread, to the detriment of human freedom." Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a conspiracy theory and fake news website.[2] The website sells various dietary supplements, promotes alternative medicine, tendentious nutrition and health claims,[3] fake news,[4][5][6] and espouses various conspiracy theories.[7] These conspiracy theories include chemophobic claims about the purported dangers of "chemtrails",[2] fluoridated drinking water,[8] anti-perspirants, laundry detergent, monosodium glutamate, aspartame), and alleged health problems caused by allegedly "toxic" ingredients in vaccines,[2][3] including the now-discredited link to autism.[9] It has also spread conspiracy theories about the Zika virus allegedly being spread by genetically modified mosquitoes[10] and purported adverse effects of genetically modified crops, as well as the farming practices associated with and foods derived from them.[11] The site's founder, Michael Allen "Mike" Adams, gained attention after posting a blog entry implying a call for violence against proponents of GMO foods, and then allegedly creating another website with a list of names of alleged supporters. He has been accused of using "pseudoscience to sell his lies".[12] Adams has described vaccines as "medical child abuse".[13] Characterized as a "conspiracy-minded alternative medicine website", Natural News has approximately 7 million unique visitors per month.[14] (Apparently including Sue.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good grief. You probably took this seriously, didn't you Sue? "(Natural News) For more than 60 years, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has known that the changes occurring to planetary weather patterns are completely natural and normal. But the space agency, for whatever reason, has chosen to let the man-made global warming hoax persist and spread, to the detriment of human freedom." Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a conspiracy theory and fake news website.[2] The website sells various dietary supplements, promotes alternative medicine, tendentious nutrition and health claims,[3] fake news,[4][5][6] and espouses various conspiracy theories.[7] These conspiracy theories include chemophobic claims about the purported dangers of "chemtrails",[2] fluoridated drinking water,[8] anti-perspirants, laundry detergent, monosodium glutamate, aspartame), and alleged health problems caused by allegedly "toxic" ingredients in vaccines,[2][3] including the now-discredited link to autism.[9] It has also spread conspiracy theories about the Zika virus allegedly being spread by genetically modified mosquitoes[10] and purported adverse effects of genetically modified crops, as well as the farming practices associated with and foods derived from them.[11] The site's founder, Michael Allen "Mike" Adams, gained attention after posting a blog entry implying a call for violence against proponents of GMO foods, and then allegedly creating another website with a list of names of alleged supporters. He has been accused of using "pseudoscience to sell his lies".[12] Adams has described vaccines as "medical child abuse".[13] Characterized as a "conspiracy-minded alternative medicine website", Natural News has approximately 7 million unique visitors per month.[14] (Apparently including Sue.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News
homersapien 11,373 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 18 hours ago, AFTiger said: Pitiful What's the matter? Either you - or one of the deniers you have referenced - has made one of these claims: It's one big global scientific hoax. Virtually all of the climatic and related scientists around the world - not to mention every serious scientific professional organization are complicit in it. They aren't just wrong, they are perpetuating a hoax. (No doubt you know their motivation.) All of the data that supports AGW theory is fake. The world is not getting warmer, it's getting cooler. It all means complete government control of our lives. I give up. You are right. You win the debate! Are you not satisfied now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,148 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 10:32 AM, homersapien said: Good grief. You probably took this seriously, didn't you Sue? "(Natural News) For more than 60 years, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has known that the changes occurring to planetary weather patterns are completely natural and normal. But the space agency, for whatever reason, has chosen to let the man-made global warming hoax persist and spread, to the detriment of human freedom." Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a conspiracy theory and fake news website.[2] The website sells various dietary supplements, promotes alternative medicine, tendentious nutrition and health claims,[3] fake news,[4][5][6] and espouses various conspiracy theories.[7] These conspiracy theories include chemophobic claims about the purported dangers of "chemtrails",[2] fluoridated drinking water,[8] anti-perspirants, laundry detergent, monosodium glutamate, aspartame), and alleged health problems caused by allegedly "toxic" ingredients in vaccines,[2][3] including the now-discredited link to autism.[9] It has also spread conspiracy theories about the Zika virus allegedly being spread by genetically modified mosquitoes[10] and purported adverse effects of genetically modified crops, as well as the farming practices associated with and foods derived from them.[11] The site's founder, Michael Allen "Mike" Adams, gained attention after posting a blog entry implying a call for violence against proponents of GMO foods, and then allegedly creating another website with a list of names of alleged supporters. He has been accused of using "pseudoscience to sell his lies".[12] Adams has described vaccines as "medical child abuse".[13] Characterized as a "conspiracy-minded alternative medicine website", Natural News has approximately 7 million unique visitors per month.[14] (Apparently including Sue.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News This is Mike Adams' site. I just mentioned this dude lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good grief. You probably took this seriously, didn't you Sue? "(Natural News) For more than 60 years, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has known that the changes occurring to planetary weather patterns are completely natural and normal. But the space agency, for whatever reason, has chosen to let the man-made global warming hoax persist and spread, to the detriment of human freedom." Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a conspiracy theory and fake news website.[2] The website sells various dietary supplements, promotes alternative medicine, tendentious nutrition and health claims,[3] fake news,[4][5][6] and espouses various conspiracy theories.[7] These conspiracy theories include chemophobic claims about the purported dangers of "chemtrails",[2] fluoridated drinking water,[8] anti-perspirants, laundry detergent, monosodium glutamate, aspartame), and alleged health problems caused by allegedly "toxic" ingredients in vaccines,[2][3] including the now-discredited link to autism.[9] It has also spread conspiracy theories about the Zika virus allegedly being spread by genetically modified mosquitoes[10] and purported adverse effects of genetically modified crops, as well as the farming practices associated with and foods derived from them.[11] The site's founder, Michael Allen "Mike" Adams, gained attention after posting a blog entry implying a call for violence against proponents of GMO foods, and then allegedly creating another website with a list of names of alleged supporters. He has been accused of using "pseudoscience to sell his lies".[12] Adams has described vaccines as "medical child abuse".[13] Characterized as a "conspiracy-minded alternative medicine website", Natural News has approximately 7 million unique visitors per month.[14] (Apparently including Sue.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News
AUDub 11,148 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 9:46 PM, Tiger Sue said: Maybe NASA has it right. https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-30-nasa-admits-climate-change-not-caused-by-suvs-fossil-fuels.html Quoting the site of a fellow that literally denies the germ theory of disease is pretty laughable, Sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Sue 325 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, AUDub said: Quoting the site of a fellow that literally denies the germ theory of disease is pretty laughable, Sue. I guess you didn't notice I said "maybe.'" I thought it was humorous and would get homer's dander up. It worked. But glad you got a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 8:53 PM, Tiger Sue said: I guess you didn't notice I said "maybe.'" I thought it was humorous and would get homer's dander up. It worked. But glad you got a laugh. Sure you did. The old "I was just kidding" excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Sue 325 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, homersapien said: Sure you did. The old "I was just kidding" excuse. Oops I forgot you are omniscient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tiger Sue said: Oops I forgot you are omniscient. It hardly takes omniscience to figure you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Sue 325 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, homersapien said: It hardly takes omniscience to figure you out. That works both way for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 2:44 PM, Tiger Sue said: That works both way for sure. Good. Then we agree neither of us is "omniscient". That's progress I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mims44 1,869 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Not to be a smartass... But I've seen a hundred of these climate threads by now on these forums. What I've never seen in any of them was a poster stating "Wow, ya'know I used to deny climate change, but this thread has changed my mind!" ... or even vice versa that. @homersapien You are old and a part of every one of these threads, can you remember anyone ever changing their position once stated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,373 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 16 hours ago, Mims44 said: Not to be a smartass... But I've seen a hundred of these climate threads by now on these forums. What I've never seen in any of them was a poster stating "Wow, ya'know I used to deny climate change, but this thread has changed my mind!" ... or even vice versa that. @homersapien You are old and a part of every one of these threads, can you remember anyone ever changing their position once stated? No. But deniers won't change their positions until the truth is obviously apparent, and even then they will likely deny it. They are too emotionally/politically invested to admit they were wrong. I am not trying to persuade them - which is a fool's errand - but I will call out their BS arguments for what they are. While one cannot persuade the un-persuadable, you can always stand for the actual science that reveals the truth about what is (already) happening. That might have an effect in persuading those who may be equally ignorant of the science, but are otherwise open to the idea that AGW is factual. I have faith these "persuadables", will ultimately accept the reality of AGW - even if only by observing or experiencing it. Regardless, there are a lot more of them than the deniers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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