Please say it ain't so.

[wdefromtx 3,159]

Just now, ShocksMyBrain said:

“Sometimes” 

Ok....all the time!!LMAO

[homersapien 11,373]

On 4/29/2020 at 3:14 PM, wdefromtx said:

You think?!!!! Instead he got mad and instead said he was being sarcastic. It is what it is, he acts like a toddler sometimes. 

I think you way overestimate him.  He wasn't using "disinfectants" in an analogous way comparing them to therapeutics.

He simply doesn't know enough about the subject for him to realize how stupid it sounded.

(Of course, had he made it plain that he was really talking about the need to develop a therapeutic, the obvious response would be, Duuuuuuuuh! ) 

So no, he was definitely referring to the disinfectants Bryan had just gotten through discussing.

He's clueless, which is exactly why he's been encouraged to cut back on his corona virus "briefings".

[McLoofus 35,182]

25 minutes ago, Grumps said:

Either you think that Trump said/implied that people SHOULD use disinfectant/UV light to kill the virus OR you think that the media did NOT imply that Trump said it. It doesn't matter which of those two things you THINK happened, neither one is TRUE. So I guess we will just disagree, huh?

I know exactly what Trump said, which is what the media reported. I mean, we have the exact quotes. We have audio and video of him talking. He was very explicit. Why so many of y'all are struggling with it, I really can't understand. 

[Grumps 3,704]

12 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

I know exactly what Trump said, which is what the media reported. I mean, we have the exact quotes. We have audio and video of him talking. He was very explicit. Why so many of y'all are struggling with it, I really can't understand. 

See, I was right!

[McLoofus 35,182]

1 hour ago, wdefromtx said:

Agree to disagree.

It all goes back to one of the things I mentioned....bias. It is going to determine how one interprets the intention of what he meant. Any passive aggressive insults were unintentional and not any worse that any that were slung at me. I assume it is just part of trying to explain via text. Back and forth convo's like this are easier in person to me. 

While admitting that you struggle with language is admirable, it doesn't exactly strengthen your position in a conversation that is devoted entirely to communication. 

And when you say things like "anyone with half a brain" agrees with you, that is the definition of a passive-aggressive insult. Clearly you implicated at least half of this forum with that comment, therefore you insulted at least half of this forum. 

Finally, yes, this is all about bias. Your bias has been very clear throughout the conversation. The absolute best case scenario that you've provided is that the President of the United States America, 50,000+ deaths into this virus, suggested to medical professionals that we use medicine to combat an illness. That's clearly neither what he said nor what he meant, but let's suggest for a moment that you're concocted explanation is correct. In that fictional scenario, you think the media is the problem? 

I'll admit that I despise the man and could not possibly imagine a worse person to be in charge right now. So no, I'm not claiming that trump said things that he did not say. I'll admit to that, sure. 

[McLoofus 35,182]

3 minutes ago, Grumps said:

See, I was right!

No, you weren't. 

[wdefromtx 3,159]

1 hour ago, McLoofus said:

While admitting that you struggle with language is admirable, it doesn't exactly strengthen your position in a conversation that is devoted entirely to communication. 

And when you say things like "anyone with half a brain" agrees with you, that is the definition of a passive-aggressive insult. Clearly you implicated at least half of this forum with that comment, therefore you insulted at least half of this forum. 

Finally, yes, this is all about bias. Your bias has been very clear throughout the conversation. The absolute best case scenario that you've provided is that the President of the United States America, 50,000+ deaths into this virus, suggested to medical professionals that we use medicine to combat an illness. That's clearly neither what he said nor what he meant, but let's suggest for a moment that you're concocted explanation is correct. In that fictional scenario, you think the media is the problem? 

I'll admit that I despise the man and could not possibly imagine a worse person to be in charge right now. So no, I'm not claiming that trump said things that he did not say. I'll admit to that, sure. 

Thank you for your input. Thankfully most people know not to use a disinfectant and rather kill the virus with a drug that is something like the disinfectant. 

 

First thing that popped in my mind was "isn't that what we are doing by researching drugs?" LOL 

 

[Grumps 3,704]

53 minutes ago, Grumps said:

Either you think that Trump said/implied that people SHOULD use disinfectant/UV light to kill the virus OR you think that the media did NOT imply that Trump said it. It doesn't matter which of those two things you THINK happened, neither one is TRUE. So I guess we will just disagree, huh?

Oh, I was definitely right!

[wdefromtx 3,159]

I guess in reality no one really knows what he meant. 

 

He could be thinking injecting the sweat from Putin’s scrotum might work as a disinfectant. 

 

 

[ShocksMyBrain 9,364]

46 minutes ago, wdefromtx said:

I guess in reality no one really knows what he meant. 

 

He could be thinking injecting the sweat from Putin’s scrotum might work as a disinfectant.

 

 

You went the high road. This joke could be twisted in several different ways. 

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

1 hour ago, wdefromtx said:

I guess in reality no one really knows what he meant. 

 

He could be thinking injecting the sweat from Putin’s scrotum might work as a disinfectant. 

 

 

Oh, btw. Not work safe. But if you thought Chris Rock was work safe you probably thought drinking bleach/lysol/fabuloso/dial/tide etc was safe also.

[AUFAN78 3,895]

6 hours ago, wdefromtx said:

Couldn't have said it better myself!!!

But we are considered Trumpers or right wingers for trying to be sensible!! LOL 

This entire argument from the gumps has been partisan noise. Never conflate them for having common sense nor a 3 digit IQ. Heard their collective lies for years. Saddens me it comes from people affiliated with Auburn. IIWII

[wdefromtx 3,159]

20 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said:

This entire argument from the gumps has been partisan noise. Never conflate them for having common sense nor a 3 digit IQ. Heard their collective lies for years. Saddens me it comes from people affiliated with Auburn. IIWII

Yeah, I discovered the hard way. lol 

[AUFAN78 3,895]

10 minutes ago, wdefromtx said:

Yeah, I discovered the hard way. lol 

Out of likes, but keep your head up and revel in the victory and that facts were clearly on your side. Props for the honesty and integrity.

[SaltyTiger 7,798]

8 hours ago, homersapien said:

I have never seen someone as confused about the essential facts on a given issue as wdefromtx is on this one, regardless of his opinion of Trump.

You're smarter than that Salty.  At least I thought so.  Are you confused also?

No

[wdefromtx 3,159]

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

On 4/28/2020 at 3:26 PM, wdefromtx said:

Who's the one you can't understand? I think I know who you are talking about, but it has been a while since I had been around on here.

 

Oh that would be me. I hate people of color and hate gays also along with not being able to be understood, or so I've been told. Sure my friends (various races), girlfriend (Hispanic), and adopted family members (hint..not white) would all agree. They still hang out with me though. I'm just an evil dude with evil motives man.

I guess it is a good thing I payed off or slept my way to A's in all my literature/Great Books courses. I used my money, penis, and ability to not be understood to con my way into 4 academic degrees.

Interesting how when I supported Obama's ideas here I wasn't any of that, and the worse I was ever called was a snowflake. I.E. I was a good guy when I didn't buy into the "Thanks Obama" blame game. Now that I don't buy into the "Trump is All Evil" blame game I'm now a person of hate. Which in honesty I have grown tired of the accusations and just tell people to **** off now.

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Meanwhile, liberals and the nonreligious tend to be more open to new experiences, a trait associated with lower prejudice. So one might expect that, whatever each group’s own ideology, conservatives and Christians should be inherently more discriminatory on the whole.

But more recent psychological research, some of it presented in January at the annual meeting of the Society of Personality and Social Psychology (SPSP), shows that it’s not so simple. These findings confirm that conservatives, liberals, the religious and the nonreligious are each prejudiced against those with opposing views. But surprisingly, each group is about equally prejudiced. While liberals might like to think of themselves as more open-minded, they are no more tolerant of people unlike them than their conservative counterparts are.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/09/why-liberals-arent-as-tolerant-as-they-think-215114

I can identify this in myself. I have less tolerance for those on the far right and the far left. Seen the shift with posters here in their attitude toward me.

This entire bit fits into which group you are in when viewing what Trump said. I'd have the same view if it was Obama, Bush, Clinton... and that is why the hell would you all of the sudden based on life experience/general knowledge believe it was OK to ingest a disinfectant.

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THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute.

Typical Trump stuff. I saw this or I experienced this etc. His usual opening statement for something even prior to being the president.

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And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning.

To me that is a question not a statement. Cause I have no clue why someone would listen to anyone telling them to inject disinfectant products regardless of who it is.

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Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.

So research is needed.

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So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with.

Aright, then why didn't these individuals go see their medical professionals or confer with them. He obviously suggested they were going to be needed in said procedure.Sure they would have said that is the stupidest thing we've ever heard and advised against it.

That's my view and opinion. Can agree or not. I think it will depend on your box. I'd have the same view if Clinton said it.

If people really are that influenced by one individual that is considered a celeb/power position then we really need to rethink censorship in movies and music. You can easily find research that supports lyrics that lead to violence, drug and alcohol abuse, and aggressive behavior. Remember, two of the most publicized came out of Chicago, the same city that has issues with drugs and violence. The two from Georgia were mentally ill.

Then how many have read the individual stories. Many of these numbers are compared to last year in a non-COVID environment. Reasons for increases in calls have included children getting into products that usually were not in the home (bad parenting), people over cleaning, mixing products, not diluting, and having issues from the fumes or contact with skin.

https://reason.com/2020/04/28/the-myth-of-the-bleach-drinking-masses/

Is Trump an idiot and pretender on things he has no knowledge about, absolutely. Guy hates to admit he doesn't know something. I can even admit it was a poor comparison since groups have been claiming miracle cures with it since Jan and earlier.

This also shows how willing we have become to just do away with personal accountability. Which irritates me to death. I highly doubt anyone here watched/read that statement and then went and made themselves a bourbon with lemon scented pine sol or whatever. Is there someone that did? Probably. Just like someone did something after a movie, or listening to a song, or reading a book. Was it the Aurora kid that stated he was the Joker at a movie theater.

Lol, I believe that if Obama did this we would have one side arguing that Obama was UN-American and trying to kill off the population for his socialist desires, while the other would be arguing  it was a harmless statement encouraging the need for new methods and research.

Did I have an affair with a movie star/playmate cause Kennedy did it...........well ok I did.

But did I seek the presidential treatment for anxiety like Clinton did, who stated it was to relieve anxiety..... alright maybe I thought Clinton was onto something and skipped the Xanax for another method.

Oh well, 4 days left on my quarantine. Hope you are recovering well.

I am going to make another margarita. It has nothing to do with the fact that I have been going through old Jimmy Buffet albums I freaking swear....... but I'm really unsure.

Cuban 2020!

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

1 hour ago, wdefromtx said:

I'm disinfecting right now, but not by my own choice. Buffet made me do it cause I no longer hold myself accountable for any of my choices. Least I'm getting full pay for being in 2 week quarantine. Though I haven't had any symptoms yet.

[McLoofus 35,182]

7 hours ago, Texan4Auburn said:

If people really are that influenced by one individual that is considered a celeb/power position

He's the President of the United States of America.

I read everything you had to say. A lot of good points. You seem smart. But you are also another person normalizing absolutely unacceptable behavior from the leader of the free world. Or at least he was as of January 2017. That title has been slowly eroding since, to the point that I'm not longer certain it's accurate. 

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

6 hours ago, McLoofus said:

He's the President of the United States of America.

I read everything you had to say. A lot of good points. You seem smart. But you are also another person normalizing absolutely unacceptable behavior from the leader of the free world. Or at least he was as of January 2017. That title has been slowly eroding since, to the point that I'm not longer certain it's accurate. 

It is normal behavior for him. I fully expected him to act just like he did on his TV show.

People were/are fooling themselves if they thought he was going to become "presidential" when he took office. There are many that did. I don't find many of the things he says acceptable as the POTUS. Is Trump "presidential" .... absolutely not. No issue with criticisms on that. I've held him accountable for things he has said. Still, if you read what he said and thought gargling bleach or using it as a sinus rinse was a good idea that is on you.

It would be like if Auburn hired Mike Leach and then expected him to act like the stereotype Auburn coaches have. Isn't gonna happen.

We have a Springer Spaniel you could put in office, and if you show up at a press conference with a ball this will happen every time. Just who she is:

 

[McLoofus 35,182]

12 minutes ago, Texan4Auburn said:

It is normal behavior for him. I fully expected him to act just like he did on his TV show.

People were/are fooling themselves if they thought he was going to become "presidential" when he took office. There are many that did. I don't find many of the things he says acceptable as the POTUS. Is Trump "presidential" .... absolutely not. No issue with criticisms on that. I've held him accountable for things he has said. Still, if you read what he said and thought gargling bleach or using it as a sinus rinse was a good idea that is on you.

It would be like if Auburn hired Mike Leach and then expected him to act like the stereotype Auburn coaches have. Isn't gonna happen.

We have a Springer Spaniel you could put in office, and if you show up at a press conference with a ball this will happen every time. Just who she is:

I totally agree that he is exactly what you, I and other reasonable people expected.

But what I can't abide is the notion that anyone should just throw up their hands and say, "Well, that's just how Donald Trump is." 

Doesn't matter to me what POTUS's name is. Whoever is in that office should be held to the standard that office commands. Every time POTUS says or does something stupid, he or she should be called out on it just like every prior POTUS.

That we have to call this jackass out on his bull**** multiple times a day every single day is an inconvenience for us all, but his voters really should have thought harder about that if it is so problematic for them. They continue to get exactly what they wished for. Don't vote for a clown if you don't like the circus.

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

2 hours ago, McLoofus said:

I totally agree that he is exactly what you, I and other reasonable people expected.

But what I can't abide is the notion that anyone should just throw up their hands and say, "Well, that's just how Donald Trump is." 

Doesn't matter to me what POTUS's name is. Whoever is in that office should be held to the standard that office commands. Every time POTUS says or does something stupid, he or she should be called out on it just like every prior POTUS.

That we have to call this jackass out on his bull**** multiple times a day every single day is an inconvenience for us all, but his voters really should have thought harder about that if it is so problematic for them. They continue to get exactly what they wished for. Don't vote for a clown if you don't like the circus.

I am with you. There are standards that should be respected when you hold that office. I fear though that this type of stuff(tradition/respect) is falling to the wayside across the board in our society. Many of his voters wanted to get away from the groomed/traditional style politicians. Him conforming to the office would actually detract from why many voted for him.

Agree you shouldn't just throw you hands up, but you can't blame the guy for every single thing that happens. I said the same about Obama. Which is what Democrats have done unfortunately for the majority of his term vs looking for ways to defeat him. That was one of things I really liked about Beto till he had to try and conform. He stayed out the Trump bashing and went to issues and ideas in the beginning.

I honestly thought OK Trump winning is going to be a wake-up call to politicians, they will get their s*** together, and he is out in one term. Thinking I was hardcore wrong on that lol.

I'm really hoping Cuban just says screw it and jumps in.

[McLoofus 35,182]

25 minutes ago, Texan4Auburn said:

I am with you. There are standards that should be respected when you hold that office. I fear though that this type of stuff(tradition/respect) is falling to the wayside across the board in our society. Many of his voters wanted to get away from the groomed/traditional style politicians. Him conforming to the office would actually detract from why many voted for him.

Agree you shouldn't just throw you hands up, but you can't blame the guy for every single thing that happens. I said the same about Obama. Which is what Democrats have done unfortunately for the majority of his term vs looking for ways to defeat him. That was one of things I really liked about Beto till he had to try and conform. He stayed out the Trump bashing and went to issues and ideas in the beginning.

I honestly thought OK Trump winning is going to be a wake-up call to politicians, they will get their s*** together, and he is out in one term. Thinking I was hardcore wrong on that lol.

I'm really hoping Cuban just says screw it and jumps in.

Great post.

Major disappointment with the DNC for not putting forth a better candidate. 

I just hate that you could scrape a better candidate than trump off the sole of Biden's shoe, but Trump's going to get reelected anyway. You're right. Trump isn't even the problem. He's a symptom.

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

3 hours ago, McLoofus said:

Great post.

Major disappointment with the DNC for not putting forth a better candidate. 

I just hate that you could scrape a better candidate than trump off the sole of Biden's shoe, but Trump's going to get reelected anyway. You're right. Trump isn't even the problem. He's a symptom.

No kidding. Some reason people got caught up in the Trump vs Cruz bit, and you had Kasich sitting there going this is how I handled this issue in Ohio vs tossing insults. Noone cared though it seemed.

[aubiefifty 16,791]

this extreme lefty here would have voted for Kasich if he had made it. also a few days ago one of the talking heads on cable said alan keyes i believe it is actually sells some kind of snake oil with a disinfectant in it on his web site. they say trump is big on conspiracy theories, etc, so i wonder if he might have been influenced by that.