wdefromtx 3,159 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Lots of truth here. Harris puts out some good videos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 I agree. Liberal states can do much more to reflect progressive values. Social justice causes are nice but, economic solutions are the real, long term solutions. Still, it is undeniable that the "blue" states are subsidizing the "red" states. Taxation in our country needs to change. It is far too regressive. The middle middle class and the upper middle class cannot continue subsidizing the super wealthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted June 1, 2022 Author Share Posted June 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, icanthearyou said: I agree. Liberal states can do much more to reflect progressive values. Social justice causes are nice but, economic solutions are the real, long term solutions. Still, it is undeniable that the "blue" states are subsidizing the "red" states. Taxation in our country needs to change. It is far too regressive. The middle middle class and the upper middle class cannot continue subsidizing the super wealthy. Clowns to the left, jokers to the right…..I’m stuck in the middle class getting screwed!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, wdefromtx said: Clowns to the left, jokers to the right…..I’m stuck in the middle class getting screwed!!! Middle class people vote, pay their taxes, even donate to candidates or causes but,,, they don't understand the concept of buying politicians. Middle class people look at the letter next to a name. The super wealthy do not care about the letter. They care about the ability to control the individual. We have legalized political corruption. Neither party will change much until we restore integrity. Edited June 1, 2022 by icanthearyou 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,657 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 The desire of the current political class is to erode the middle class until it’s no longer worth their attention. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,657 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 11 hours ago, icanthearyou said: I agree. Liberal states can do much more to reflect progressive values. Social justice causes are nice but, economic solutions are the real, long term solutions. Still, it is undeniable that the "blue" states are subsidizing the "red" states. Taxation in our country needs to change. It is far too regressive. The middle middle class and the upper middle class cannot continue subsidizing the super wealthy. And red states are feeding, clothing and sustaining the blue states. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,160 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, autigeremt said: And red states are feeding, clothing and sustaining the blue states. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 11 hours ago, autigeremt said: And red states are feeding, clothing and sustaining the blue states. Or they move from a blue state to a red state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 11 hours ago, autigeremt said: The desire of the current political class is to erode the middle class until it’s no longer worth their attention. No. The middle class, relative to the capital class, is already irrelevant, extreme inequality. Too many look at the bottom of society to see problems. That is merely where the problems are revealed. The real problem is at the top, the problem is a political and capital class that cares about nothing other than money and power, no principles, no patriotism, nothing but insatiable greed. We are too ignorant, too divided to have the ability to stand up to our own oligarchs. Democracy and capitalism are dead. We no longer believe in justice, equality, democracy. We believe might makes right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, wdefromtx said: Or they move from a blue state to a red state. Sure, those are the socialist utopias,,, for those with capital, access to capital. Huge tax incentives, favorable labor laws. Why be a giver when you can be a taker. It is a third world mentality. We are back to the OP. Washington, taxes, Boeing, South Carolina. The capitalists aren't competing. We are competing for the capitalists. Edited June 2, 2022 by icanthearyou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,841 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 13 hours ago, autigeremt said: And red states are feeding, clothing and sustaining the blue states. i guess you never heard of kentucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,657 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 10 hours ago, aubiefifty said: i guess you never heard of kentucky? I’ve been to Appalachia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,841 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 17 hours ago, autigeremt said: On 6/2/2022 at 10:53 AM, aubiefifty said: i guess you never heard of kentucky? I’ve been to Appalachia. just for the record kentucky is as red as they get and they are the poorest state in the country. it best it might be some but not all so that is kinda fudging a bit is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,925 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 2 hours ago, aubiefifty said: just for the record kentucky is as red as they get and they are the poorest state in the country. it best it might be some but not all so that is kinda fudging a bit is it not? Great bourbon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,657 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 2:24 PM, aubiefifty said: just for the record kentucky is as red as they get and they are the poorest state in the country. it best it might be some but not all so that is kinda fudging a bit is it not? Kentucky isn’t the only red state in the country. Of course several of the old red states are turning purple because of the migration from the north to places like NC, SC, GA, TX and FL to access jobs (or capital). Either way the divisionist rhetoric won the day here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,160 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,841 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/1/2022 at 8:25 AM, wdefromtx said: Lots of truth here. Harris puts out some good videos. i actually agree with most of this. i just wanted to let you know. remember my friend earl that died last thanksgiving? his son just told me they are trying to pass or are to stop homes from having gas installed in homes. i wonder if he meant propane or all? the whole world is going crazy. cali is passing or already has that you cannot diu auto repairs at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, aubiefifty said: i actually agree with most of this. i just wanted to let you know. remember my friend earl that died last thanksgiving? his son just told me they are trying to pass or are to stop homes from having gas installed in homes. i wonder if he meant propane or all? the whole world is going crazy. cali is passing or already has that you cannot diu auto repairs at home. Probably referring to natural gas, although it would not surprise me if they try to ban grilling with propane as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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