gr82b4au 5,568 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I know that we talk about offensive line and the lack of HS recruiting for many years. To me, the biggest travesty has been the lack of quality HS quarterback recruiting. Other than Bo Nix, who was an AU legacy and was going to go to Auburn no matter what, our high school quarterback recruiting has been abysmal for more than a decade. We always ended up with fringe kids that were not highly recruited by the big boys. I could go through the list but you guys have already seen the terrible job that Gus did bringing in high school quarterbacks. The point is that we will never be a big program unless we can attract elite HS quarterbacks. Everything in the sport revolves around the quarterback. There are teams out there signing four and five star HS quarterbacks every year, year after year. Yes, I realize that all of our best teams in the past 15 years had quarterbacks that transferred to AU from junior college or another college. That trend Has to change. We must sign an elite 4/5 star HS quarterback in this class. And then sign another one in the next class. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,534 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 My son and I were talking about the exact same thing two days ago. IMO, the last ~ decade of AU football has been the worst QB recruiting and play we've collectively had. From poor evaluations to poor development we've set ourselves up for failure. We have to better in this area. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,170 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, bigbird said: My son and I were talking about the exact same thing two days ago. IMO, the last ~ decade of AU football has been the worst QB recruiting and play we've collectively had. From poor evaluations to poor development we've set ourselves up for failure. We have to better in this area. Wow he's still speaks to you?? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82be 14,425 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, augolf1716 said: Wow he's still speaks to you?? In a bird house, talk is cheep. Sorry, I couldn't resist. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,534 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, augolf1716 said: Wow he's still speaks to you?? All day, every day 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,899 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 56 minutes ago, gr82b4au said: I know that we talk about offensive line and the lack of HS recruiting for many years. To me, the biggest travesty has been the lack of quality HS quarterback recruiting. Other than Bo Nix, who was an AU legacy and was going to go to Auburn no matter what, our high school quarterback recruiting has been abysmal for more than a decade. We always ended up with fringe kids that were not highly recruited by the big boys. I could go through the list but you guys have already seen the terrible job that Gus did bringing in high school quarterbacks. The point is that we will never be a big program unless we can attract elite HS quarterbacks. Everything in the sport revolves around the quarterback. There are teams out there signing four and five star HS quarterbacks every year, year after year. Yes, I realize that all of our best teams in the past 15 years had quarterbacks that transferred to AU from junior college or another college. That trend Has to change. We must sign an elite 4/5 star HS quarterback in this class. And then sign another one in the next class. I think Freeze will remedy this. Good times ahead. If you are bored take a review of the top QB’s from 2019-2022, based on 24/7. Cj Stroud, Bryce Young and Caleb Williams stand out the most. Several have transferred via portal, including 3 from 2019 to include Nix, Jayden Daniels, and Rattler. A few have not played significant time like Vandergriff and Howard. IMO evaluation and development are key. Two areas I think Freeze is really solid at. So hopefully it gets better sooner than later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerVII 108 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, PoetTiger said: IMO evaluation and development are key. THIS! We have mostly signed fringe high school QBs in the past 8-10 years, but we also failed to properly evaluate and develop 4* Kodi Burns, 5* Kiehl Frazier, and 4* Jeremy Johnson in the past 15 years. We've been a graveyard for high school QBs since Brandon Cox graduated. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUINSY 2,228 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, TigerVII said: We've been a graveyard for high school QBs since Brandon Cox graduated Amen, you can say that again. Barring the couple of generationally-talented athletes we lucked out on, you're exactly right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,534 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, TigerVII said: We've been a graveyard for high school QBs And 5* LBs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 2,234 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, gr82b4au said: I know that we talk about offensive line and the lack of HS recruiting for many years. To me, the biggest travesty has been the lack of quality HS quarterback recruiting. Other than Bo Nix, who was an AU legacy and was going to go to Auburn no matter what, our high school quarterback recruiting has been abysmal for more than a decade. We always ended up with fringe kids that were not highly recruited by the big boys. I could go through the list but you guys have already seen the terrible job that Gus did bringing in high school quarterbacks. The point is that we will never be a big program unless we can attract elite HS quarterbacks. Everything in the sport revolves around the quarterback. There are teams out there signing four and five star HS quarterbacks every year, year after year. Yes, I realize that all of our best teams in the past 15 years had quarterbacks that transferred to AU from junior college or another college. That trend Has to change. We must sign an elite 4/5 star HS quarterback in this class. And then sign another one in the next class. Websters defines abysmal as, "immeasurably low or wretched." So yeah ... perfect description. I'll say this about building a perennial winning team -- it's much like constructing a house. You have to start with the foundation first, then the walls before the roof. Without a good foundation, the whole structure will be shaky. The OL is much like the foundation. A good OL can make any QB look great (hi there, AJ McCarron & Stetson Bennet!) So glad that Freeze is addressing the wretched state of past recruiting efforts. Great QBs generally aren't stupid and can recognize a good OL. Remember when Russel Wilson was looking to transfer from NC State and chose Wisconsin over AU? It wasn't because he preferred cheese & cold weather. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabastertiger 613 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, bigbird said: My son and I were talking about the exact same thing two days ago. IMO, the last ~ decade of AU football has been the worst QB recruiting and play we've collectively had. From poor evaluations to poor development we've set ourselves up for failure. We have to better in this area. so you and little bird had a talk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUwent 3,752 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, AUloggerhead said: Websters defines abysmal as, "immeasurably low or wretched." So yeah ... perfect description. I'll say this about building a perennial winning team -- it's much like constructing a house. You have to start with the foundation first, then the walls before the roof. Without a good foundation, the whole structure will be shaky. The OL is much like the foundation. A good OL can make any QB look great (hi there, AJ McCarron & Stetson Bennet!) So glad that Freeze is addressing the wretched state of past recruiting efforts. Great QBs generally aren't stupid and can recognize a good OL. Remember when Russel Wilson was looking to transfer from NC State and chose Wisconsin over AU? It wasn't because he preferred cheese & cold weather. God, the TP would’ve done wonders for us in 2011-12. Edited January 30, 2023 by AUwent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEAugirl 9,632 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) I’m not necessarily sure talent was the problem…Gus brought in a few really talented QBs but he seemed to always break them and definitely could not develop their talents. Guys like Woody Barrett, Kiehl Frazier, and Sean White were no slouches in HS and also held some big time offers. All Gus’s successful QBs were transfers. Bo was by far the most talented HS QB Gus brought in but even he never reached his full potential here at AU under Gus or Harsin…partly the Oline can be blamed for that but still, a result of Gus. I always felt like if Bo didn’t have Patrick probably coaching him some as well Gus would have completely broke him too….its like Bo had just enough natural talent to overcome Gus’s coaching. Edited January 31, 2023 by AEAugirl 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creed 1,637 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Address the LOS and they will come. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82b4au 5,568 Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 Well, that was fast. Maybe I should have complained about this years ago. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,534 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, gr82b4au said: Well, that was fast. Maybe I should have complained about this years ago. Start a OL, Edge, LB, thread 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FASTCOMPANY 394 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 11:32 AM, bigbird said: And 5* LBs 5* PERIOD! In recent memory, I can only think of two 5* that lived up to potential... Greg Robinson and Derrick Brown 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,094 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 hours ago, gr82b4au said: @AUBwins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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