IRS: Biden's Received $17M from Foreign Sources

[Gowebb11 9,326]

Indictments, subpoenas, arrests, investigations, charges, allegations. Sitting presidents and ex presidents. The new America 🇺🇸 Watergate, Iran-Contra, and Lewinsky look like virtuous goings on compared to this mess. 

Edited July 26, 2023 by Gowebb11

[AURex 2,000]

15 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

You forgot RUSSIANS RUSSIANS RUSSIANS. Same thing. For four years we heard 10 megatons of BS that eventually amounted to just this side of "not jack s***" with zero arrests for Teason, Sedition, or Collusion as promised by the media 24-7 for four years. You see the BS does in fact go BOTH ways. You know there are people that believe the 2020 Election Fraud Crap? Do you also know that there are crazies out there that think trump didn't win in 2016? See, same craziness.

Right wing extremist "What About Ism" pops up automatically, as if that has anything to do with the issue being discussed. What about Ronald Reagan invading Granada because their university sucked? Well, okay, what about it? There is the case before our eyes. Where is the evidence. Welp ....... we ain't got no actual evidence. Kinda like all the "evidence" regarding Trump being robbed. There just ain't not evidence. Not one single shred.

 

 

[DKW 86 7,425]

9 hours ago, AURex said:

Right wing extremist "What About Ism" pops up automatically, as if that has anything to do with the issue being discussed. What about Ronald Reagan invading Granada because their university sucked? Well, okay, what about it? There is the case before our eyes. Where is the evidence. Welp ....... we ain't got no actual evidence. Kinda like all the "evidence" regarding Trump being robbed. There just ain't not evidence. Not one single shred.

 

 

I am glad we agree then. A lot of stories out of DC really have no evidence. 

[AUFAN78 3,910]

16 hours ago, Gowebb11 said:

Indictments, subpoenas, arrests, investigations, charges, allegations. Sitting presidents and ex presidents. The new America 🇺🇸 Watergate, Iran-Contra, and Lewinsky look like virtuous goings on compared to this mess. 

One need not look back far for the difference in time and attitudes. We've become a litigious society for the worse. 

[alexava 6,973]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-donor-appointee-purchasing-hunters-art-presents-conflict-of-interest-and-raises-red-flags-experts
 

no evidence....

[DKW 86 7,425]

21 minutes ago, alexava said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-donor-appointee-purchasing-hunters-art-presents-conflict-of-interest-and-raises-red-flags-experts
 

no evidence....

sssshhhhh $17M  worth of some of the strongest circumstantial evidence in the world, but you cant say that in front of the party zealots. 😎

[alexava 6,973]

4 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

sssshhhhh $17M  worth of some of the strongest circumstantial evidence in the world, but you cant say that in front of the party zealots. 😎

When you have evidence… but all the effin yo-yos are screaming “ there’s no evidence”…….. that’s how election fraud goes untouched. That’s how the justice system fails. Evidence has just become what people want it to be. 

[AU9377 4,935]

21 hours ago, alexava said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-donor-appointee-purchasing-hunters-art-presents-conflict-of-interest-and-raises-red-flags-experts
 

no evidence....

Donate a million dollars to Trump and get yourself appointed as ambassador to the EU.  Welcome to America.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/donors-trump-inaugural-committee-got-ambassador-nominations-are-they-qualified-n990116

[AU9377 4,935]

16 hours ago, alexava said:

When you have evidence… but all the effin yo-yos are screaming “ there’s no evidence”…….. that’s how election fraud goes untouched. That’s how the justice system fails. Evidence has just become what people want it to be. 

What about when someone claims election fraud simply because they lost?  How does that impact trust int he system?

[KansasTiger 3,248]

3 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

Donate a million dollars to Trump and get yourself appointed as ambassador to the EU.  Welcome to America.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/donors-trump-inaugural-committee-got-ambassador-nominations-are-they-qualified-n990116

You present this like it's not standard practice for practically all incoming presidents. Right or not, it's misleading to attribute it to Trump alone.

[alexava 6,973]

2 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

Donate a million dollars to Trump and get yourself appointed as ambassador to the EU.  Welcome to America.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/donors-trump-inaugural-committee-got-ambassador-nominations-are-they-qualified-n990116

 

Just now, AU9377 said:

What about when someone claims election fraud simply because they lost?  How does that impact trust int he system?

You mean like Hillary Clinton and all the democrats did in ‘16. Due to Russian interference that she fabricated HERSELF. Don’t be a dunce. A Democrat speaking on trust might be the most hypocritical bs going right now. 

[KansasTiger 3,248]

1 minute ago, alexava said:

 

You mean like Hillary Clinton and all the democrats did in ‘16. Due to Russian interference that she fabricated HERSELF. Don’t be a dunce. A Democrat speaking on trust might be the most hypocritical bs going right now. 

There has been a long long list of dems claiming stolen elections before convienantly turning that narrative around in 2020. Not just Hillary.

[alexava 6,973]

2 minutes ago, KansasTiger said:

You present this like it's not standard practice for practically all incoming presidents. Right or not, it's misleading to attribute it to Trump alone.

Well Siegleman got hosed for it as collateral damage to Scrushy. Hence my distrust in our justice system. 
     The problem is Biden is not using appointments and influence to get campaign funds. He’s using it to get his crooked family cash that he, you, me and even the “head in their ass”,democrats know is highly illegal. They are just too sick to admit it. 

[AU9377 4,935]

1 minute ago, KansasTiger said:

There has been a long long list of dems claiming stolen elections before convienantly turning that narrative around in 2020. Not just Hillary.

There has never been a candidate to act like Donald Trump acted.  He literally attempted to get the VP to ignore the Constitution and refuse to certify results. 

[AU9377 4,935]

7 minutes ago, alexava said:

 

You mean like Hillary Clinton and all the democrats did in ‘16. Due to Russian interference that she fabricated HERSELF. Don’t be a dunce. A Democrat speaking on trust might be the most hypocritical bs going right now. 

What Donald Trump did after the 2020 election is unacceptable.  It was also illegal.  Attempting to justify his actions doesn't make them go away. 

[AU9377 4,935]

11 minutes ago, KansasTiger said:

You present this like it's not standard practice for practically all incoming presidents. Right or not, it's misleading to attribute it to Trump alone.

This is why I said "Welcome to America."  That was in response to the allegation that Biden appointed someone to a position and that person purchased art work from Hunter.  Again, welcome to America.  Of course, that connection is even harder to substantiate.

[KansasTiger 3,248]

2 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

What Donald Trump did after the 2020 election is unacceptable.  It was also illegal.  Attempting to justify his actions doesn't make them go away. 

I dont think anyone here is defending trump. You can attack Biden and dems and their corruption and hypocrisy and not have to defend trump.

[AU9377 4,935]

4 minutes ago, alexava said:

Well Siegleman got hosed for it as collateral damage to Scrushy. Hence my distrust in our justice system. 
     The problem is Biden is not using appointments and influence to get campaign funds. He’s using it to get his crooked family cash that he, you, me and even the “head in their ass”,democrats know is highly illegal. They are just too sick to admit it. 

Show me evidence of what you claim to "know" and we can all know.

[alexava 6,973]

Just now, AU9377 said:

There has never been a candidate to act like Donald Trump acted.  He literally attempted to get the VP to ignore the Constitution and refuse to certify results. 

He did. He was convinced it was stolen. The wackiness going on in reaction to every breath he has taken in the past 7 years only makes his case.  The left literally feels like they are stopping Hitler and any means of lying is justified to accomplish it. Like said previously evidence doesn’t matter anymore. 

[AU9377 4,935]

Just now, KansasTiger said:

I dont think anyone here is defending trump. You can attack Biden and dems and their corruption and hypocrisy and not have to defend trump.

When someone claims that Biden did ______________ , but they have no evidence that doing ________________ was a criminal act, it is standard to show that the practice, regardless of how much we don't like it, has occurred in the past.  The difference is that their source of information didn't think it was criminal at that point in time.  Conveniently, it is criminal now.  That is how it is relevant/.

[AU9377 4,935]

1 minute ago, alexava said:

He did. He was convinced it was stolen. The wackiness going on in reaction to every breath he has taken in the past 7 years only makes his case.  The left literally feels like they are stopping Hitler and any means of lying is justified to accomplish it. Like said previously evidence doesn’t matter anymore. 

He had no evidence that it was stolen in any way.  He only claimed wrongdoing occurred in places where he lost.  What does that tell you?

Fox News has paid close to $1 billion with another billion likely coming for knowingly reporting false and defamatory information concerning the 2020 election.

[KansasTiger 3,248]

Just now, AU9377 said:

Show me evidence of what you claim to "know" and we can all know.

Guys. AU9377 wants you to STOP reading between the lines and making logical conclusions when it comes to his preferred politicians. So stop. It's making him uncomfortable. It doesn't matter that the people whose job it is to collect and present the evidence are corrupt and therefore you don't have direct evidence because of that. Or the fact that direct evidence of high level political wrongdoing is rarely presented as irrefutable evidence and often goes unpunished. He demands something he knows you can't provide, so your arguments are null and void. Just give up.

[LPTiger 5,166]

Devon Archer, former Burisma board member, former friend and partner of Hunter Biden, is expected to testify Monday that on at least 2 dozen different occasions he was personally present when Hunter got his dad on the phone, while speaking with foreign entities, for the purpose of showing his dad's influence.    I heard one democrat lawmaker today say that such testimony would not be "evidence" of anything.    Is that going to be the reaction of the vast majority of democrats or will that testimony tip the scales toward "well maybe there is something worth investigating here."    What reason would Archer have for fabricating such a story?   At our last USCT justice confirmation hearing, outlandish witness testimony was accepted at face value by democrats because "women must be believed." 

[AU9377 4,935]

1 hour ago, KansasTiger said:

Guys. AU9377 wants you to STOP reading between the lines and making logical conclusions when it comes to his preferred politicians. So stop. It's making him uncomfortable. It doesn't matter that the people whose job it is to collect and present the evidence are corrupt and therefore you don't have direct evidence because of that. Or the fact that direct evidence of high level political wrongdoing is rarely presented as irrefutable evidence and often goes unpunished. He demands something he knows you can't provide, so your arguments are null and void. Just give up.

Whatever.  All I ask for is what is legally required to charge someone with a crime.  If that isn't possible, then all of this is just a dog and pony show.

[AU9377 4,935]

33 minutes ago, LPTiger said:

Devon Archer, former Burisma board member, former friend and partner of Hunter Biden, is expected to testify Monday that on at least 2 dozen different occasions he was personally present when Hunter got his dad on the phone, while speaking with foreign entities, for the purpose of showing his dad's influence.    I heard one democrat lawmaker today say that such testimony would not be "evidence" of anything.    Is that going to be the reaction of the vast majority of democrats or will that testimony tip the scales toward "well maybe there is something worth investigating here."    What reason would Archer have for fabricating such a story?   At our last USCT justice confirmation hearing, outlandish witness testimony was accepted at face value by democrats because "women must be believed." 

What about that conduct is evidence of a crime?  Seriously.  We all know why foreign companies seek out and want to do business, or place on their board, relatives of elected officials.  For that to rise to the level of being criminal, you have to show that the elected official did something that he/she would not have done but for the money or benefits flowing to those family members or to themselves.  Why is that hard to grasp?

I thought the hearings concerning Kavenaugh were ridiculous.  I have had dinner with B Kavenaugh.  He is the typical Ivy League snobbish entitled prick that he comes across as being when he speaks publicly.  Even so, he didn't deserve the BS that he was put through by those allegations.  That has nothing to do with what the House Republicans are engaging in concerning this matter.