ClaytonAU 4,606 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've said this two weeks in a row, this site is a mess y'all. We won the game. We have a bye week. Peyton Barber scored FIVE TDs. 3/5 touchdowns were from the shotgun in the redzone inside the 10! Have some damn faith in this team and the staff. You all sound too entitled for your own good. Relax and step off the ledge you're about to jump off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never2Yield 1,005 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've said this two weeks in a row, this site is a mess y'all. We won the game. We have a bye week. Peyton Barber scored FIVE TDs. 3/5 touchdowns were from the shotgun in the redzone inside the 10! Have some damn faith in this team and the staff. You all sound too entitled for your own good. Relax and step off the ledge you're about to jump off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,222 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Clayton normally I would be right there with you but something is going on with the way the team is playing. When I see a pass play called and 2 of the 3 receivers run no true route just kind of walk thru there so called patterns. I mean we needed a first down and it looked like we had one receiver running a route with 2 guys covering him. I have never seen a play set up like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,641 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Ten passes may not be progress but 35 points and a win is. Today was not the time to "work on things". Today was the time to win the game, which we accomplished. We now have one game between today and October 24. These next three weeks is the time to work on things. If Duke were the receiver people thought he was, he'd have out-fought the DB for the first quarter pass at the goal line. Two of our receiver's drops were potentially long TD passes from White. The QB isn't the problem. This ship can be righted and we have a rare mid-season break in which to do it. Why so many are writing this season, players and coaching staff off is puzzling. PS: Gus is never, never going to "air it out" if we can run the ball successfully, and that's smart coaching. Those of you that want to see 60 passes a game need to start following Baylor or Texas Tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnthePlains 2,014 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Ten passes may not be progress but 35 points and a win is. Today was not the time to "work on things". Today was the time to win the game, which we accomplished. We now have one game between today and October 24. These next three weeks is the time to work on things. If Duke were the receiver people thought he was, he'd have out-fought the DB for the first quarter pass at the goal line. Two of our receiver's drops were potentially long TD passes from White. The QB isn't the problem. This ship can be righted and we have a rare mid-season break in which to do it. Why so many are writing this season, players and coaching staff off is puzzling. PS: Gus is never, never going to "air it out" if we can run the ball successfully, and that's smart coaching. Those of you that want to see 60 passes a game need to start following Baylor or Texas Tech. Mikey I have always respected your opinions and analysis so I'm going to try and take some hope in what you are saying because what I see is a 4-8 train wreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWhiskey91 632 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Good news is we went +4 on TO margin today. What is concerning for me is the fact that we keep hearing about getting our "Playmakers" involved, and we continue to see passes only coming when we HAD to. I am all for saving gadget plays and even certain personnel groupings, but we cannot play like this. It doesn't help the team get better by just hammering away at a lesser opponent running the ball. Seeing Sean White having to throw on 3rd and 8+ is silly when it could be avoided by throwing more high percentage on earlier downs. What really hurt to see, was when USCe's QB went down vs MIzzou, the back up came in, and they immediately took a shot down the field. The only change from benching JJ, was limiting turnovers at the cost of offensive production. This isn't a knock on Sean White, but if all we are going to do is run the ball until we absolutely have to pass the ball, Id rather we tried to work JJ through his issues. That Deep ball today was something White has to complete, and he let it get on the left side of Smith. We shall see what the bye week brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,829 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 If we're just going to throw 10x we might as well just keep running the wildcat with Kerryon as the full time offense lol. Whats the point of having a QB out there who isn't going to have the opportunity to throw and rarely gets the chance to run? Are we playing 11 on 10 out there? For the record though I dont think putting JJ back in is a good idea. SW can actually pick up more yards on the ground than JJ can IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Today was not the time to "work on things". Right, the time to "work on things" is against our upcoming SEC opponents who will throttle us. We will be glad we spent this entire game running up the middle repeatedly when we're all of a sudden asking Sean White to complete 3rd and longs against SEC defenses blitzing his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've said this two weeks in a row, this site is a mess y'all. We won the game. We have a bye week. Peyton Barber scored FIVE TDs. 3/5 touchdowns were from the shotgun in the redzone inside the 10! Have some damn faith in this team and the staff. You all sound too entitled for your own good. Relax and step off the ledge you're about to jump off. Level headed people have serious doubts about this team. No ones jumping off ledges but some people are being a bit dramatic. I won't name any names, though. The best team we have played trounced us like a cat playing with a mouse. The second best team we played beat us easily at our place and just got beaten like little schoolgirls by maybe the third best team left on our schedule. Sensible people foresee the definite possibility of a losing season. Maybe not, but when you watch sjsu push your ol and dl around for 3.5 quarters in the 5th game of the season, it makes one wonder. Thank goodness for fumbles and ko returns is all I can say. This game did very little to build any confidence for the rest of the season. Hopefully, the UK game will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonAU 4,606 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Clayton normally I would be right there with you but something is going on with the way the team is playing. When I see a pass play called and 2 of the 3 receivers run no true route just kind of walk thru there so called patterns. I mean we needed a first down and it looked like we had one receiver running a route with 2 guys covering him. I have never seen a play set up like that. Look I'm far from an optimistic Golf, you know me, I'll tell it like it is. This team has no fire and it showed today. But I'll take a W over an L every day. I noticed the same thing with the recievers and that's one of the negatives. Who does that fall on? Craig or the recievers? Rhett is gone after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonAU 4,606 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've said this two weeks in a row, this site is a mess y'all. We won the game. We have a bye week. Peyton Barber scored FIVE TDs. 3/5 touchdowns were from the shotgun in the redzone inside the 10! Have some damn faith in this team and the staff. You all sound too entitled for your own good. Relax and step off the ledge you're about to jump off. Level headed people have serious doubts about this team. No ones jumping off ledges but some people are being a bit dramatic. I won't name any names, though. The best team we have played trounced us like a cat playing with a mouse. The second best team we played beat us easily at our place and just got beaten like little schoolgirls by maybe the third best team left on our schedule. Sensible people foresee the definite possibility of a losing season. Maybe not, but when you watch sjsu push your ol and dl around for 3.5 quarters in the 5th game of the season, it makes one wonder. Thank goodness for fumbles and ko returns is all I can say. This game did very little to build any confidence for the rest of the season. Hopefully, the UK game will. I have doubts about this team as well. But I'm not ready to call it 2012 like some others, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,829 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've said this two weeks in a row, this site is a mess y'all. We won the game. We have a bye week. Peyton Barber scored FIVE TDs. 3/5 touchdowns were from the shotgun in the redzone inside the 10! Have some damn faith in this team and the staff. You all sound too entitled for your own good. Relax and step off the ledge you're about to jump off. Level headed people have serious doubts about this team. No ones jumping off ledges but some people are being a bit dramatic. I won't name any names, though. The best team we have played trounced us like a cat playing with a mouse. The second best team we played beat us easily at our place and just got beaten like little schoolgirls by maybe the third best team left on our schedule. Sensible people foresee the definite possibility of a losing season. Maybe not, but when you watch sjsu push your ol and dl around for 3.5 quarters in the 5th game of the season, it makes one wonder. Thank goodness for fumbles and ko returns is all I can say. This game did very little to build any confidence for the rest of the season. Hopefully, the UK game will. We are 5 games in man. What we see is what we have. There honestly is no reason to hope the UK game will truly build confidence, we have looked subpar against worse competition. Eeeeesh. The only thing I'm really looking for is any improvement at all. A regular, lower tier SEC team should've beaten SJSU 42-14 at a LEAST and we struggled most of the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Today was not the time to "work on things". Right, the time to "work on things" is against our upcoming SEC opponents who will throttle us. We will be glad we spent this entire game running up the middle repeatedly when we're all of a sudden asking Sean White to complete 3rd and longs against SEC defenses blitzing his ass. Exactly. Then Gus says says he found out more about who we were on O and D in his presser. He is turning into Bagdad Bob. Reminds me of nallsminger when we telegraphed to everyone we were a running team. When we played teams that could stop us our passing game was so weak they trounced us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnthePlains 2,014 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've said this two weeks in a row, this site is a mess y'all. We won the game. We have a bye week. Peyton Barber scored FIVE TDs. 3/5 touchdowns were from the shotgun in the redzone inside the 10! Have some damn faith in this team and the staff. You all sound too entitled for your own good. Relax and step off the ledge you're about to jump off. Level headed people have serious doubts about this team. No ones jumping off ledges but some people are being a bit dramatic. I won't name any names, though. The best team we have played trounced us like a cat playing with a mouse. The second best team we played beat us easily at our place and just got beaten like little schoolgirls by maybe the third best team left on our schedule. Sensible people foresee the definite possibility of a losing season. Maybe not, but when you watch sjsu push your ol and dl around for 3.5 quarters in the 5th game of the season, it makes one wonder. Thank goodness for fumbles and ko returns is all I can say. This game did very little to build any confidence for the rest of the season. Hopefully, the UK game will. I have doubts about this team as well. But I'm not ready to call it 2012 like some others, are you? I don't want to see 2012 here Clayton but it's where we appear headed. I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish 73 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Today was not the time to "work on things". Right, the time to "work on things" is against our upcoming SEC opponents who will throttle us. We will be glad we spent this entire game running up the middle repeatedly when we're all of a sudden asking Sean White to complete 3rd and longs against SEC defenses blitzing his ass. You don't work on things when a game hasn't been put away. Somehow you missed the off week time to "work on things". Are you saying you would risk the game to "work on things"? If so your priorities seem to be off track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 You don't work on things when a game hasn't been put away. Somehow you missed the off week time to "work on things". Are you saying you would risk the game to "work on things"? If so your priorities seem to be off track. If you can't beat San Jose State while working on things, then this season is already lost. We wasted an opportunity to get much needed rhythm for an entire segment of the game that we are hopeless in right now. We'll work on the passing during the off week? That sounds reassuring...you know, because our practices were so enlightening that we actually thought that JJ was a good QB going into this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've said this two weeks in a row, this site is a mess y'all. We won the game. We have a bye week. Peyton Barber scored FIVE TDs. 3/5 touchdowns were from the shotgun in the redzone inside the 10! Have some damn faith in this team and the staff. You all sound too entitled for your own good. Relax and step off the ledge you're about to jump off. Level headed people have serious doubts about this team. No ones jumping off ledges but some people are being a bit dramatic. I won't name any names, though. The best team we have played trounced us like a cat playing with a mouse. The second best team we played beat us easily at our place and just got beaten like little schoolgirls by maybe the third best team left on our schedule. Sensible people foresee the definite possibility of a losing season. Maybe not, but when you watch sjsu push your ol and dl around for 3.5 quarters in the 5th game of the season, it makes one wonder. Thank goodness for fumbles and ko returns is all I can say. This game did very little to build any confidence for the rest of the season. Hopefully, the UK game will. I have doubts about this team as well. But I'm not ready to call it 2012 like some others, are you? No, we are not there yet and prayerfully won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,641 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Today was not the time to "work on things". Right, the time to "work on things" is against our upcoming SEC opponents who will throttle us. We will be glad we spent this entire game running up the middle repeatedly when we're all of a sudden asking Sean White to complete 3rd and longs against SEC defenses blitzing his ass. Typical metafour post. You deleted most of my statement to try to make yourself look smart. Your game has been old and tiresome for a long time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburnguy101 325 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Can I ask a legitimate question, and I am really trying to be civil. What is it in SW that you guys see that makes you believe he is our future QB for the rest of the season and next year? I'm asking honestly. I know my posts have been about us needing a DT QB to be prolific, but I am wondering what you guys see in him honestly? I feel like SW to most of you is like some savior of the team, a guy that is of no flaws. I understand he has confidence and heart, but physically, I see nothing that is special about him and nothing that screams that he can carry a team. I see a guy that is a good fit in a game-manager type of offense, not this kind of offense. I am just confused on why so many believe he is amazing. And before you ask, I wasn't buying into the JJ hype all season. However, I believe he got a raw deal. The offense we are running with SW is completely different than what JJ was running. I believe JJ might have succeeded more in the offense we are running now, but alas. Oh, and by the way, I wanted to point out that the long pass to Jason Smith was not on him, but SW. If you rewatch the play, Jason Smith is expecting the ball to be on the inside, however, SW threw it on the outside of his shoulder, making JS adjust at full speed. I'm not saying he couldn't have caught that still, but that wasn't the best throw in the first place as some are saying on here. I point that out because if JJ made that throw, I believe most of you guys would be saying it was JJ's fault... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Typical metafour post. You deleted most of my statement to try to make yourself look smart. Your game has been old and tiresome for a long time now. What did I delete that was so important? Woo-hoo we won the game. What an accomplishment. We did absolutely nothing to try and get ANYTHING going with our non-existent passing game. Games like today's are the few we have on the schedule wherein you can realistically try and work on things, or try anything new. I'm glad we ironed out our up-the-middle runs for 2-3 yards...we'll see a lot of them them against these upcoming SEC opponents. When we switched QBs I stated that the worst thing we could do was handicap White even further, and that is exactly what has happened. Gus really is a fool and will run this thing into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Ten passes may not be progress but 35 points and a win is. Today was not the time to "work on things". Today was the time to win the game, which we accomplished. We now have one game between today and October 24. These next three weeks is the time to work on things. If Duke were the receiver people thought he was, he'd have out-fought the DB for the first quarter pass at the goal line. Two of our receiver's drops were potentially long TD passes from White. The QB isn't the problem. This ship can be righted and we have a rare mid-season break in which to do it. Why so many are writing this season, players and coaching staff off is puzzling. PS: Gus is never, never going to "air it out" if we can run the ball successfully, and that's smart coaching. Those of you that want to see 60 passes a game need to start following Baylor or Texas Tech. No ones wanting to throw it 60 times a game Mikey. 5-10 more passes of the 10-20 yd variety would have been very nice though. I agree we can still turn it around, but games like this are the best time to work on things. I have seen how well things we work on in practice translate onto the field. I don't have a lot of faith in our practices at the moment. Make them do it in front of 90k people and see if they can focus and do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnthePlains 2,014 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I don't see people on here saying SW is some great savior qb???? Mostly folks were just tired of seeing jj throw it to the other team and thought a change might help. This team has more issues than qb anyway. Why on earth there are some who want to stir up crap over the qb is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Can I ask a legitimate question, and I am really trying to be civil. What is it in SW that you guys see that makes you believe he is our future QB for the rest of the season and next year? I'm asking honestly. I know my posts have been about us needing a DT QB to be prolific, but I am wondering what you guys see in him honestly? I feel like SW to most of you is like some savior of the team, a guy that is of no flaws. I understand he has confidence and heart, but physically, I see nothing that is special about him and nothing that screams that he can carry a team. I see a guy that is a good fit in a game-manager type of offense, not this kind of offense. I am just confused on why so many believe he is amazing. And before you ask, I wasn't buying into the JJ hype all season. However, I believe he got a raw deal. The offense we are running with SW is completely different than what JJ was running. I believe JJ might have succeeded more in the offense we are running now, but alas. Oh, and by the way, I wanted to point out that the long pass to Jason Smith was not on him, but SW. If you rewatch the play, Jason Smith is expecting the ball to be on the inside, however, SW threw it on the outside of his shoulder, making JS adjust at full speed. I'm not saying he couldn't have caught that still, but that wasn't the best throw in the first place as some are saying on here. I point that out because if JJ made that throw, I believe most of you guys would be saying it was JJ's fault... If the game isn't called to suit his skills better we will never know how good he may or may not be. The jury is still out on how good he will be. If we are going to run a read option offense and throw 10 times a game I don't understand why we would have ever recruited two pocket passing qb's. That is baffling logic right there. There isn't alot of difference in the O between JJ and SW other than the passing calls. SW threw 3 deep balls today. All three could have been caught. The smith ball was a little off but should have been caught, most agree on that. Duke barely fought at all to catch his even though he had size advantage on the db. Louis caught his even though it wasn't that deep. SW has played well. No td's yet, but could have easily had some. At least he's not throwing every third or 4th pass to the d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburnguy101 325 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Can I ask a legitimate question, and I am really trying to be civil. What is it in SW that you guys see that makes you believe he is our future QB for the rest of the season and next year? I'm asking honestly. I know my posts have been about us needing a DT QB to be prolific, but I am wondering what you guys see in him honestly? I feel like SW to most of you is like some savior of the team, a guy that is of no flaws. I understand he has confidence and heart, but physically, I see nothing that is special about him and nothing that screams that he can carry a team. I see a guy that is a good fit in a game-manager type of offense, not this kind of offense. I am just confused on why so many believe he is amazing. And before you ask, I wasn't buying into the JJ hype all season. However, I believe he got a raw deal. The offense we are running with SW is completely different than what JJ was running. I believe JJ might have succeeded more in the offense we are running now, but alas. Oh, and by the way, I wanted to point out that the long pass to Jason Smith was not on him, but SW. If you rewatch the play, Jason Smith is expecting the ball to be on the inside, however, SW threw it on the outside of his shoulder, making JS adjust at full speed. I'm not saying he couldn't have caught that still, but that wasn't the best throw in the first place as some are saying on here. I point that out because if JJ made that throw, I believe most of you guys would be saying it was JJ's fault... If the game isn't called to suit his skills better we will never know how good he may or may not be. The jury is still out on how good he will be. If we are going to run a read option offense and throw 10 times a game I don't understand why we would have ever recruited two pocket passing qb's. That is baffling logic right there. There isn't alot of difference in the O between JJ and SW other than the passing calls. SW threw 3 deep balls today. All three could have been caught. The smith ball was a little off but should have been caught, most agree on that. Duke barely fought at all to catch his even though he had size advantage on the db. Louis caught his even though it wasn't that deep. SW has played well. No td's yet, but could have easily had some. At least he's not throwing every third or 4th pass to the d. And I agree that he is not turning the ball over, but what else is he doing well? I know he's only played 2 games, but there's nothing that jumps out and says, you know if we got better play from others, we would be unstoppable. I mean, you or I could have played QB today and wouldn't have noticed a difference. And that's my point with SW. He doesn't have game-changing abilities. Usually, even with true freshmen playing in mop-up duty, you see glimpses of an athlete that makes you go wow. If you are a defensive coordinator, are you scared about SW beating you? If we're just going to do zone-read, why not just put Jason Smith or another QB to run it, because SW clearly is clearly the least threatening QB on the roster to run.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish 73 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 You don't work on things when a game hasn't been put away. Somehow you missed the off week time to "work on things". Are you saying you would risk the game to "work on things"? If so your priorities seem to be off track. If you can't beat San Jose State while working on things, then this season is already lost. We wasted an opportunity to get much needed rhythm for an entire segment of the game that we are hopeless in right now. We'll work on the passing during the off week? That sounds reassuring...you know, because our practices were so enlightening that we actually thought that JJ was a good QB going into this season. I wouldn't go so far as saying the season is lost because you risk a loss by "working on things" ... this is a good example of hyperbole. As far as working on passing for SW, the off week is ideal, which has absolutely nothing to do with JJ. His problem is not a lack of talent, but it is a lack of handling the pressure of being "the man". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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