Elephant Tipper 430 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, auburnphan said: You don't have a clue about how meetings in the Whitehouse work and how information is distributed after the fact do you? And you are suggesting that you are the expert. LOL Yeah, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Elephant Tipper said: And you are suggesting that you are the expert. LOL Yeah, right. Obviously more than you do, cuz you are making a fool of yourself in this thread, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,153 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, auburnphan said: Obviously more than you do, cuz you are making a fool of yourself in this thread, bro. Well that's not at all unusual for Tipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elephant Tipper 430 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: OK genius, let me break this down for you. Please note that of the two of us, I'm pretty sure I'm the only one with a degree in Mass Communication, has won awards for reporting, and worked in the field. It is not incumbent of any news organization to have to interview anyone, so if WaPo trusts their sources (and there have to be multiple corroborating the story before they run with it), then they can publish. WaPo can always go back and print statements from the administration if they so choose. It's also common practice to use anonymous sources and has been for years. This is done to protect the source from repercussions. For example, if two anonymous sources work in the White House but can confirm the same story, you withhold their names to protect them. This does two things: keeps them from losing their job / livelihood and keeps a source open for the reporter to return to later. We would never know about Watergate if it wasn't for anonymous sources. There's also a reason that some journalists have gone to jail rather than revealing their sources. It's to protect those people. And as has been noted several times now, McMaster has not denied that classified info was shared. He never really addressed the claims made in the report during his quick statement. One last thing: this story has been confirmed independently by several other news agencies after WaPo initially published the report. It's not just one reporter anymore with this info. You must work for the Opelika News. lol IF an explosive story of such importance is about to be revealed it behooves the WAPO to cover their bases by interviewing the principles to have them on the record to confirm/deny/be silent to further solidify their story, but they didn't. So now the WAPO has created a he said/she said argument that undercuts their own reporting. That's the WAPO "genius" at work. lol I doubt the statement that this story has been confirmed as you say. Instead, most likely the info is just passed around without real investigative journalism. You surely aren't the genius for reporting, are you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Why be baffled? I thought the story was a nothing burger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,947 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 22 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: Amateur hour in the West Wing. Every hour on the hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,947 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, AUUSN said: Why be baffled? I thought the story was a nothing burger? That's why they asked the Post to hold back certain details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Elephant Tipper said: You must work for the Opelika News. lol IF an explosive story of such importance is about to be revealed it behooves the WAPO to cover their bases by interviewing the principles to have them on the record to confirm/deny/be silent to further solidify their story, but they didn't. So now the WAPO has created a he said/she said argument that undercuts their own reporting. That's the WAPO "genius" at work. lol I doubt the statement that this story has been confirmed as you say. Instead, most likely the info is just passed around without real investigative journalism. You surely aren't the genius for reporting, are you ? Eject! Eject! Eject! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Tipper 430 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, auburnphan said: Obviously more than you do, cuz you are making a fool of yourself in this thread, bro. Okay Mr. Expert. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Elephant Tipper said: You must work for the Opelika News. lol IF an explosive story of such importance is about to be revealed it behooves the WAPO to cover their bases by interviewing the principles to have them on the record to confirm/deny/be silent to further solidify their story, but they didn't. So now the WAPO has created a he said/she said argument that undercuts their own reporting. That's the WAPO "genius" at work. lol I doubt the statement that this story has been confirmed as you say. Instead, most likely the info is just passed around without real investigative journalism. You surely aren't the genius for reporting, are you ? You've obviously never studied the Watergate reporting. Also done by WaPo mind you. And you can doubt the statement that this story has been confirmed all you want, but the Times independently confirmed it's veracity within two hours of publishing. And if you didn't know (and you probably don't), the Times and WaPo are in a war with regards to reporting and scooping each other right now (readership and subscriptions are way up for both). It would be better for the Times to rebut the story, but that's not what happened. Other outlets are now also independently verifying as the night goes on. Use your damn google a little bit and you might learn some things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Elephant Tipper said: Okay Mr. Expert. lol Thanks for assuming that I am an expert, but I am not. However, on this issue I am clearly not a moron on how the system works, otherwise I would be agreeing with you. Bless your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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homersapien 11,385 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 14 hours ago, AUUSN said: Note the text above the photo. This is the sort of intelligence leak that kills people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,816 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: You've obviously never studied the Watergate reporting. Also done by WaPo mind you. And you can doubt the statement that this story has been confirmed all you want, but the Times independently confirmed it's veracity within two hours of publishing. And if you didn't know (and you probably don't), the Times and WaPo are in a war with regards to reporting and scooping each other right now (readership and subscriptions are way up for both). It would be better for the Times to rebut the story, but that's not what happened. Other outlets are now also independently verifying as the night goes on. Use your damn google a little bit and you might learn some things. I studied it and lived it. Good stuff but a different day. This story will go to sleep quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,385 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Elephant Tipper said: And you have nothing to prove that there is "news", well, except fake news. I don't have to prove that it's fake. McMaster did that. Remember him ? The National Security Adviser who was actually in the room and said that the WAPO story is "FALSE". That's not what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,385 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Elephant Tipper said: According to Judge Andrew Napolitano, the Supreme Court has already ruled on such. The WAPO, according to him, is free to publish what info they've withheld. Apparently they have more regard for protecting our intelligence sources than Trump has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AUUSN 823 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Oh FFS. Hey Trump the Russians are currently arming the Taliban. Knock it off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: I studied it and lived it. Good stuff but a different day. This story will go to sleep quickly. I'm not sure how you see that happening. Every few days, something new is brought to the forefront with regards to Russia. In the past six days, we've had Trump firing the man investigating potential ties to Russia during the election and now Trump telling them secrets that could put people in serious danger. Remember, the Russians are working with Syria and are complicit with the genocide over there (per all respected reporting). If Trump was trying to "defeat ISIS", he just did a lousy job of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,426 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Scary times we're living in ... need some adults to step forward, preferably soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,947 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 hours ago, RunInRed said: Scary times we're living in ... need some adults to step forward, preferably soon. So may need to become adults first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,947 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Brad_ATX said: I'm not sure how you see that happening. Every few days, something new is brought to the forefront with regards to Russia. In the past six days, we've had Trump firing the man investigating potential ties to Russia during the election and now Trump telling them secrets that could put people in serious danger. Remember, the Russians are working with Syria and are complicit with the genocide over there (per all respected reporting). If Trump was trying to "defeat ISIS", he just did a lousy job of it. He thinks its all just fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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