drewzums343 76 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Ryan Sanders said: We know what we get with Gus. There is at least potential with Napier to be better. It's like hiring a former employee that puts out 75% production vs a new hire. At least with the new hire, there is a chance that you get 100% or better production. But with the old guy, you know to expect 75%. Weird way to put it probably.. but that's how I view a question like that. One of the biggest issues I had with Gus was the inability to develop talent. I do think Steele did well on the defensive side of the ball in that aspect.. but on offense.. we didn't see much of that. Napier, from what I can tell, seems to get MORE out of his players. Not so much with Gus. We need a downfield passing game. Need to develop the OL and receivers. Gus was unwilling to throw deep most of the time, just a run up the middle and a screen pass. Not sure if Napier is willing to start having a passing game like Alabama and Florida and the other sec powerhouses do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddc 13,194 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Zeek said: I've been so tired of Auburn football it's time to take a Nap Keep selling it, you’re gonna get there! 😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Freak 2,528 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, drewzums343 said: Jeremy Pruitt is probably getting canned soon. Maybe hire him as DC The union called with a grievance on your postings. You are taking work away from a4e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleCoTiger 1,957 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, PoetTiger said: Based on his resurrection of ULL program, his connections with elite coaches ala Saban and Dabo. Seems like he has a process/culture for success. Pretty good recruiter at UAT... Everyone is a good recruiter at UAT. As far as process/culture, I once again refer people to Josh Pate at The Late Kick. Unless and until AU gets everyone pulling in the same direction and giving a coach everything they need to succeed without all the outside "direction" coming in from the powers that be, not a damn thing will change long term. Think back to every coach and every ending since Bowden came aboard in 1993. SSDD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shabby 1,958 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, drewzums343 said: We need a downfield passing game. Need to develop the OL and receivers. Gus was unwilling to throw deep most of the time, just a run up the middle and a screen pass. Not sure if Napier is willing to start having a passing game like Alabama and Florida and the other sec powerhouses do I thought there were plenty of deep shots but a lack if development certainly impacted the success of those plays. Right now this search has made me okay with anyone not named Steele. Sark is my first choice but I am definitely okay with Napier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArgoEagle 1,788 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, drewzums343 said: We need a downfield passing game. Need to develop the OL and receivers. Gus was unwilling to throw deep most of the time, just a run up the middle and a screen pass. Not sure if Napier is willing to start having a passing game like Alabama and Florida and the other sec powerhouses do Gus loved to throw deep on 3rd down and 5, when we needed a slant pattern or drag route to get a first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabby 1,958 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, AUwent said: Who is Dennis Dobb and is he reliable? Please Lord let this be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Freak said: The union called with a grievance on your postings. You are taking work away from a4e. @bigbird called it, too. It's uncanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewzums343 76 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, shabby said: I thought there were plenty of deep shots but a lack if development certainly impacted the success of those plays. Right now this search has made me okay with anyone not named Steele. Sark is my first choice but I am definitely okay with Napier I'm willing to give Napier a chance. Hes a fresh face on campus and not a part of the good ol boy system. He's mostly unproven never been a SEC head coach before or a p5 head coach but he may be successful. If he sucks, he's gone in 2-3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, CleCoTiger said: Everyone is a good recruiter at UAT. I will say, though, that the really successful ones have gone on to replicate their success elsewhere. Kirby and Cristobal have done absolutely incredible things, although Kirby has done it a little bit... loudly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewzums343 76 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, ArgoEagle said: Gus loved to throw deep on 3rd down and 5, when we needed a slant pattern or drag route to get a first down. I swear we ran that same screen pass every game and it never worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabby 1,958 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, drewzums343 said: I'm willing to give Napier a chance. Hes a fresh face on campus and not a part of the good ol boy system. He's mostly unproven never been a SEC head coach before or a p5 head coach but he may be successful. If he sucks, he's gone in 2-3 years Do we know what kind of recruiter he's likely to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikesEagle 168 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Brad_ATX said: Am I the only one that wants to use this as my new background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au701948 998 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, shabby said: I thought there were plenty of deep shots but a lack if development certainly impacted the success of those plays. Right now this search has made me okay with anyone not named Steele. Sark is my first choice but I am definitely okay with Napier I could easily get behind Napier. Get It Done before someone else hirs him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just so everyone is aware of the job this guy has done, the Cajuns had lost four or more games every year since 1993 prior to Napier showing up. Since he's arrived: 7-7 11-3 9-1 Won or tied for the division title every year. And 3 of his 11 total losses were to SEC teams. Basically saying, the dude can freaking coach. And he's only 41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeek 16,650 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Would love to hear @WarDamnEagleWDE thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewzums343 76 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, shabby said: Do we know what kind of recruiter he's likely to be? Pretty sure every recruiter is good at Bama. We have to remember on the flip side that hiring a coach from a major program doesn't equal success. Jeremy Pruitt seemed like a great hire at the time but Tennessee is still a dumpster fire and not much better from when butch Jones was coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au701948 998 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I would lot rather have Napier. Someone fresh and new and full of energy to work to make something happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,899 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, CleCoTiger said: Everyone is a good recruiter at UAT. As far as process/culture, I once again refer people to Josh Pate at The Late Kick. Unless and until AU gets everyone pulling in the same direction and giving a coach everything they need to succeed without all the outside "direction" coming in from the powers that be, not a damn thing will change long term. Think back to every coach and every ending since Bowden came aboard in 1993. SSDD. Yeah all this excitement about Napier means nothing if Auburn is not willing to let him change the culture of the athletic department (football) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caleb1633 1,418 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, drewzums343 said: I'm willing to give Napier a chance. Hes a fresh face on campus and not a part of the good ol boy system. He's mostly unproven never been a SEC head coach before or a p5 head coach but he may be successful. If he sucks, he's gone in 2-3 years He did take UL to a different level though and had that program running on a different level. What I've seen of Napier, he is not only a great game day coach, but also has great organizational skills and operational acumen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,988 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, drewzums343 said: Pretty sure every recruiter is good at Bama. We have to remember on the flip side that hiring a coach from a major program doesn't equal success. Jeremy Pruitt seemed like a great hire at the time but Tennessee is still a dumpster fire and not much better from when butch Jones was coach Jeremy Pruitt was not a great hire. Vol fans hated it. He can recruit though which is only a part of the equation. You have to be able to coach too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Freak 2,528 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, McLoofus said: @bigbird called it, too. It's uncanny. Yup, then I saw a string of them, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravejd 3,270 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I like the Napier hire. Hope it happens and it does not take all week to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0hnnyRingo 1,445 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, drewzums343 said: What makes you guys think Napier would be better than Gus? I like Gus. I think he is a great Coach and a good man. He did things the right way, and I will always appreciate his time at Auburn. My thing with Gus is this...he was hired as the head coach because of his offense. With Gus, it just didnt seem like the structure or culture was ever built. Now, was this his fault? Who knows. But it just felt like he had something with his HUNH offense, and when it stopped working, there was nothing to fall back on. He didnt, in my opinion, create a culture around that promoted success. Everything I have read about Napier, he has done that at ULL. He took his time with Saban, put his system in place with his own tweaks, and has been successful at ULL...which no other Coach can say they have done with that program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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