Right-Wing Fantasy Land

[TexasTiger 13,016]

Rove evokes the image of the fantasy liberal he wants to run against, even though this group doesn't exist:

"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers," [...] "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/new...egion-apnewyork

Therapy for our attackers? Said who? And if no one in Congress suggested it, but that is a decidely "liberal" view, then does that mean that there are NO liberals in Congress? Or that Rove is a disgusting liar?

[Tiger in Spain 0]

Man, how many times are you going to use the phrase "fantasy liberal" in one day? Ignore George Soros and drop the talking points memo.

BTW, there are no "fantasy liberals". Everyone outside the donkey party knows what a liberal is and what they stand for, so attempting to rewrite the definition by regurgitating the same phrase to nauseating extremes is silly.

[AURaptor 1,126]

Rove is right. It's the Libs who are in fantasy land. When there are senators who are bemoaning the treatment of terrorist down at Gitmo instead of working to close the borders. Rove's comments make all that much more sense.

[TexasTiger 13,016]

You were two of the guys I knew would have no problem with Rove just making crap up for partisan purposes.

[AURaptor 1,126]

You were two of the guys I knew would have no problem with Rove just making crap up for partisan purposes.

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And you're one who has no problem w/ ignoring what Liberals say about this country and 9-11. eg - Ward Churhchill.

And lets not forget what the Libs are trying to do to the 9-11 memorial in NYC. Shameful. Rove isn't making up anything....he doesn't have to. Facts is facts, and some here just don't like hearing what needs being said.

[Tiger in Spain 0]

What did he make up? I didn't want to dig this deep on a Friday afternoon, but if you want proof that democrats have taken a weaker stand on the fight against terrorism, here it goes:

"We, The Undersigned, Citizens And Residents Of The United States Of America ... Appeal To The President Of The United States, George W. Bush ... And To All Leaders Internationally To Use Moderation And Restraint In Responding To The Recent Terrorist Attacks Against The United States." (MoveOn.Org Website, "MoveOn Peace," Posted 9/13/01, Accessed 6/23/05)

"We Implore The Powers That Be To Use, Wherever Possible, International Judicial Institutions And International Human Rights Law To Bring To Justice Those Responsible For The Attacks, Rather Than The Instruments Of War, Violence Or Destruction." (MoveOn.Org Website, "MoveOn Peace," Posted 9/13/01, Accessed 6/23/05)

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH): "'The Time For Peace Is Now,' [Kucinich] Declared Optimistically July 11, Two Months To The Day Before Terrorists Hit The Pentagon And The World Trade Center. ... Sitting In His Capitol Hill Office Last Week, Near A Window Where He Could See The Smoke Rising From The Pentagon On Sept. 11, Kucinich Insisted He Is More Optimistic Than Ever That People Worldwide Are Ready To Embrace The Cause Of Nonviolence." (Elizabeth Auster, "Offer The Hand Of Peace," [Cleveland, OH] Plain Dealer, 9/30/01)

Kucinich: "Afghanistan May Be An Incubator Of Terrorism But It Doesn't Follow That We Bomb Afghanistan ..." (Elizabeth Auster, "Offer The Hand Of Peace," [Cleveland, OH] Plain Dealer, 9/30/01)

Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI): "Only Now Are We Trying To Figure Out What Is Islam. Maybe If There Was A Department Of Peace, They Would Be Able To Say, 'Uh-Oh, We've Got Some Problems With These People,' ... I Truly Believe That If We Had A Department Of Peace, We Would Have Seen [9/11] Coming." (Ethan Wallison, "War A Challenge For Peace Caucus," Roll Call, 10/1/01)

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA): "I Am Convinced That Military Action Will Not Prevent Further Acts Of International Terrorism Against The United States." (Eddy Ramirez, "Calif. Congresswoman Alone In Vote Against War Powers Resolution," [university Of California-Berkeley] Daily Californian, 9/17/01)

Al Sharpton (D-NY) Said That The Attacks On The World Trade Center Are Evidence That "America Is Beginning To Reap What It Has Sown." (Adam Nagourney, "Say It Loud," The New York Times, 12/1/02)

Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) Claimed Osama Bin Laden Could Be Compared To "Revolutionaries That Helped To Cast Off The British Crown." "'One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown,' Kaptur told an Ohio newspaper, The (Toledo) Blade." (Malie Rulon, "Lawmaker Compares Osama, U.S. Patriots," The Associated Press, 3/6/03)

John Kerry (D-MA): 'The war on terrorism is primarily an intelligence-gathering and law enforcement operation and we need a president who understands that. This president doesn't have the experience to be commander in chief.'" (Steve LeBlanc, "Kerry Invokes Vietnam In Rallying College Students To Campaign," The Associated Press, 12/2/03)

Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT) Suggested "Interesting Theory" that the President Knew 9/11 Attacks Were Coming And Didn't Stop It. CALLER: "[O]nce we get you in the White House, would you please make sure that there is a thorough investigation of 9/11, and not stonewall it?" DEAN: "Yes. There is a report, which the president is suppressing evidence for, which is a thorough investigation of 9/11." NPR'S DIANE REHM: "Why do you think he's suppressing that report?" DEAN: "I don't know. There are many theories about it. The most interesting theory that I've heard so far--which is nothing more than a theory, I can't think – it can't be proved – is that he was warned ahead of time by the Saudis. Now who knows what the real situation is? But the trouble is, by suppressing that kind of information, you lead to those kinds of theories, whether they have any truth to them or not. And eventually they get repeated as fact. So I think the president is taking a great risk by suppressing the clear – the key information that needs to go to the Kean commission." (NPR's "The Diane Rehm Show," 12/1/03)

Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) Suggested Bush Administration Had Prior Knowledge Of Attacks, But Wanted Defense Contractor Friends To Profit From Ensuing War. "Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) is calling for an investigation into whether President Bush and other government officials had advance notice of terrorist attacks on Sept. 11 but did nothing to prevent them. She added that 'persons close to this administration are poised to make huge profits off America's new war.' In a recent interview with a Berkeley, Calif., radio station, McKinney said: 'We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11th. ... What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11th? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? ... What do they have to hide?'" (Juliet Eilperin, "Democrat Implies Sept. 11 Administration Plot," The Washington Post, 4/12/02)

I left out some of the looniest stuff, like Patty Murray's (D-WA) moronic comments about Osama and daycare centers.

The bottom line: they all were against fighting the war started by the terrorists.

Let's compare these facts with the made up drivel espoused recently by the likes of Dean, Durbin, Kerry, Linda Foley, etc.

Now, who's being partisan?

[TexasTiger 13,016]

You were two of the guys I knew would have no problem with Rove just making crap up for partisan purposes.

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And you're one who has no problem w/ ignoring what Liberals say about this country and 9-11. eg - Ward Churhchill.

And lets not forget what the Libs are trying to do to the 9-11 memorial in NYC. Shameful. Rove isn't making up anything....he doesn't have to. Facts is facts, and some here just don't like hearing what needs being said.

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"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to ...offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."

Made up. Untrue. Anyway you slice it.

[AURaptor 1,126]

You were two of the guys I knew would have no problem with Rove just making crap up for partisan purposes.

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And you're one who has no problem w/ ignoring what Liberals say about this country and 9-11. eg - Ward Churhchill.

And lets not forget what the Libs are trying to do to the 9-11 memorial in NYC. Shameful. Rove isn't making up anything....he doesn't have to. Facts is facts, and some here just don't like hearing what needs being said.

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"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to ...offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."

Made up. Untrue. Anyway you slice it.

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Nope, not made up. The only thing missing is that Rove could have said 'most' Liberals, instead of painting all w/ a broad brush. There are some sensible Libs, to be sure. But the ones making the most noise clearly fall into what Rove accuratly portrays.

[TexasTiger 13,016]

You were two of the guys I knew would have no problem with Rove just making crap up for partisan purposes.

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And you're one who has no problem w/ ignoring what Liberals say about this country and 9-11. eg - Ward Churhchill.

And lets not forget what the Libs are trying to do to the 9-11 memorial in NYC. Shameful. Rove isn't making up anything....he doesn't have to. Facts is facts, and some here just don't like hearing what needs being said.

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"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to ...offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."

Made up. Untrue. Anyway you slice it.

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Nope, not made up. The only thing missing is that Rove could have said 'most' Liberals, instead of painting all w/ a broad brush. There are some sensible Libs, to be sure. But the ones making the most noise clearly fall into what Rove accuratly portrays.

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Most? Name one elected Dem who thought "therapy" for Islamic Terrorist was the appropriate response.

[channonc 466]

Again, this is only mudslinging by this Administration, just a diversion from discussing the real issues that effect our country, pretty typical. I thought GW wanted to be a uniter and not a divider?

[TexasTiger 13,016]

Again, this is only mudslinging by this Administration, typical.  I thought GW wanted to be a uniter and not a divider?

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That was the big lie of 2000. They've goeten much bigger.

[WarTim 3,457]

We all know that john "hitlary" kerry or alGore would have sent UN chief jesse jackson to Iraq to try and make a "deal" with Sadam for "peace".

The TRUTH. It is a wonderful thing!

[AURaptor 1,126]

Most? Name one elected Dem who thought "therapy" for Islamic Terrorist was the appropriate response.

When did Karl Rove say anything about 'elected Dems' ?? He never did. He said LIBERALS. You know, the moveon.org/Michael Moore/Ward Churchill/ Al Franken/Whoopie Goldberg, etc... crowd.

But to respond to your falsly based question, do you remember this? John Kerry scoffed at the idea that the war against terror could ever really end. The most that could be hoped for, he contended, was to reduce terrorism to the level of a nuisance like prostitution, the Mafia, and illicit drugs trade. Sounds like Rove was right on target.

Oh, and dont' forget Senator Patty Murray (D-Washington) who went so far as to PRAISE OBL for his humanitarian activities throughout the Third World, building roads, hospitals, day care centers. Gee, if we could all just be a bit more like Osama.....

[TexasTiger 13,016]

When did Karl Rove say anything about 'elected Dems' ?? He never did. He said LIBERALS. You know, the moveon.org/Michael Moore/Ward Churchill/ Al Franken/Whoopie Goldberg, etc... crowd.

Okay, so which one of them said it?

[AURaptor 1,126]

When did Karl Rove say anything about 'elected Dems' ?? He never did. He said LIBERALS. You know, the moveon.org/Michael Moore/Ward Churchill/ Al Franken/Whoopie Goldberg, etc... crowd.

Okay, so which one of them said it?

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Ask Karl. Or put a bit of effort into finding out for yourself. If you're not too scared to find out the facts.

[TexasTiger 13,016]

When did Karl Rove say anything about 'elected Dems' ?? He never did. He said LIBERALS. You know, the moveon.org/Michael Moore/Ward Churchill/ Al Franken/Whoopie Goldberg, etc... crowd.

Okay, so which one of them said it?

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Ask Karl. Or put a bit of effort into finding out for yourself. If you're not too scared to find out the facts.

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You'll blindly defend anything your masters say.

[AURaptor 1,126]

When did Karl Rove say anything about 'elected Dems' ?? He never did. He said LIBERALS. You know, the moveon.org/Michael Moore/Ward Churchill/ Al Franken/Whoopie Goldberg, etc... crowd.

Okay, so which one of them said it?

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Ask Karl. Or put a bit of effort into finding out for yourself. If you're not too scared to find out the facts.

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You'll blindly defend anything your masters say.

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Blindly? I've proven you wrong time and time again. If anyone's blind here, that'd be you. And what's any of this have to do w/ my master ?

[TexasTiger 13,016]

When did Karl Rove say anything about 'elected Dems' ?? He never did. He said LIBERALS. You know, the moveon.org/Michael Moore/Ward Churchill/ Al Franken/Whoopie Goldberg, etc... crowd.

Okay, so which one of them said it?

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Ask Karl. Or put a bit of effort into finding out for yourself. If you're not too scared to find out the facts.

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You'll blindly defend anything your masters say.

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Blindly? I've proven you wrong time and time again. If anyone's blind here, that'd be you. And what's any of this have to do w/ my master ?

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This is simple. Rove made something up. You say he didn't and point to nothing to support yourself. The only thing you ever "prove" is what you don't know and what you're incapable of.

[AURaptor 1,126]

It's even more simple than you know. Rove didn't make up anything. Only your pettiness keeps this non issue thread going. You asked what 'elected Dem' Rove was talking about. He wasn't talking about any of them. He said LIBERALS, but sure enough.. you and half the Dems in Washington D.C. got your boxers in a bunch thinking he was talking about THEM. You asked what Dems said what Rove was talking about, and I showed you a quote from Kerry. That should have shut you up....only you ignore that post and want more quotes. Well, guess what, I'm done playing this childrens game w/ you because you've already been beaten. You're seeking attention from folks on a message board, for Godâ„¢ only knows why. Grow up man, and face the fact that Rove brilliantly 'outted' all those Dems who whined and bitched about his comments. Atta boy, Karl !

[TexasTiger 13,016]

It's even more simple than you know. Rove didn't make up anything. Only your pettiness keeps this non issue thread going. You asked what 'elected Dem' Rove was talking about. He wasn't talking about any of them. He said LIBERALS, but sure enough.. you and  half the Dems in Washington D.C. got your boxers in a bunch thinking he was talking about THEM. You asked what Dems said what Rove was talking about, and I showed you a quote from Kerry. That should have shut you up....only you ignore that post and want more quotes. Well, guess what, I'm done playing this childrens game w/ you because you've already been beaten. You're seeking attention from folks on a message board, for Godâ„¢ only knows why. Grow up man, and face the fact that Rove brilliantly 'outted' all those Dems who whined and bitched about his comments. Atta boy, Karl !

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The moronic drones are so happy!!!!

Have a beer, Raptor!!! Celebrate Karl's BS!!!!

[AURaptor 1,126]

It wasn't B.S. That's what has you so exercised. Karl nailed you and a host of Libs out there for what y'all really are, and you hate it.

liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers

Rove cited a petition the liberal organization Moveon.org circulated after 9/11 urging moderation and restraint in responding to the attacks.

Rove also singled out Moore, who weighed into the 2004 presidential campaign with a scathing anti-Bush documentary, as well as Howard Dean, former Democratic presidential hopeful and Democratic National Committee chairman.

Game, set, match. You've been served. Good night and thanks for playing.

[TexasTiger 13,016]

It wasn't B.S.  That's what has you so exercised. Karl nailed you and a host of Libs out there for what y'all really are, and you hate it.

liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers

Rove cited a petition the liberal organization Moveon.org circulated after 9/11 urging moderation and restraint in responding to the attacks.

Rove also singled out Moore, who weighed into the 2004 presidential campaign with a scathing anti-Bush documentary, as well as Howard Dean, former Democratic presidential hopeful and Democratic National Committee chairman.

Game, set, match. You've been served. Good night and thanks for playing.

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Too bad they don't offer remedial reading comprehension skills courses at AU for you. Try the community college.

You haven't pointed to anything remotely supporting that ANYONE wanted to "offer therapy" to our attackers, and yet, you cockily assume you have.

[AURaptor 1,126]

TexasTiger - I'm sorry, I thought I was dealing w/ someone w/ an above room temp. I.Q. It's now clear that you are a 'special' person. Here, read this list V - E - R - Y slowly and perhaps it'll sink it. I know there are many words here, but remember that you can take a break and get some juice at any time.

Hope you enjoy.

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Immediately After 9/11, MoveOn.Org Petition Urged "Moderation And Restraint" And Use Of "International Judicial Institutions."

-- "We, The Undersigned, Citizens And Residents Of The United States Of America ... Appeal To The President Of The United States, George W. Bush ... And To All Leaders Internationally To Use Moderation And Restraint In Responding To The Recent Terrorist Attacks Against The United States." (MoveOn.Org Website, "MoveOn Peace,"

http://web.archive.org/web/20021127190638/...g/petition.php3, Posted 9/13/01, Accessed 6/23/05)

-- "We Implore The Powers That Be To Use, Wherever Possible, International Judicial Institutions And International Human Rights Law To Bring To Justice Those Responsible For The Attacks, Rather Than The Instruments Of War, Violence Or Destruction." (MoveOn.Org Website, "MoveOn Peace,"

http://web.archive.org/web/20021127190638/...g/petition.php3, Posted 9/13/01, Accessed 6/23/05)

-- "(W)e Demand That There Be No Recourse To Nuclear, Chemical Or Biological Weapons, Or Any Weapons Of Indiscriminate Destruction, And Feel That It Is Our Inalienable Human Right To Live In A World Free Of Such Arms." (MoveOn.Org Website, "MoveOn Peace,"

http://web.archive.org/web/20021127190638/...g/petition.php3, Posted 9/13/01, Accessed 6/23/05)

Just After 9/11, Liberal Filmmaker Michael Moore Derided "Terror And Bloodshed" Committed By Americans. (David Brooks, Op-Ed, "All Hail Moore," The New York Times, 6/26/04)

-- Just After 9/11, Moore Blamed America's "Taxpayer-Funded Terrorism" And Bush Administration For Terrorist Attacks. "We abhor terrorism - unless we're the ones doing the terrorizing. We paid and trained and armed a group of terrorists in Nicaragua in the 1980s who killed over 30,000 civilians. That was OUR work. You and me....Let's mourn, let's grieve, and when it's appropriate let's examine our contribution to the unsafe world we live in." (Michael Moore Website Archive, "Death, Downtown," Posted 9/12/01, http://www.michaelmoore.com, Accessed 7/27/04)

-- Michael Moore Said U.S. Should Not Have Removed Taliban After 9/11. Moore: "Likewise, to bomb Afghanistan - I mean, I've never understood this, Tim." (CNBC's "Tim Russert," 10/19/02)

Liberal Donor George Soros Claimed America Should Have Treated 9/11 Attacks As Crime, Responded With Police Work. "War is a false and misleading metaphor in the context of combating terrorism. Treating the attacks of September 11 as crimes against humanity would have been more appropriate. Crimes require police work, not military action. To protect against terrorism, you need precautionary measures, awareness, and intelligence gathering - all of which ultimately depend on the support of the populations among which terrorists operate. Imagine for a moment that September 11 had been treated as a crime. We would have pursued Bin Laden in Afghanistan, but we would not have invaded Iraq. Nor would we have our military struggling to perform police work in full combat gear and getting killed in the process." (George Soros, The Bubble Of American Supremacy, 2004, p. 18)

-- Soros Said The Execution Of 9/11 Attacks "Could Not Have Been More Spectacular." "Admittedly, the terrorist attack was a historic event in its own right. Hijacking fully loaded airplanes and using them as suicide bombs was an audacious idea, and the execution could not have been more spectacular." (George Soros, The Bubble Of American Supremacy, 2004, p. 2)

-- Soros Said War On Terror Had Claimed More Innocent Victims Than 9/11 Attack Itself. "This is a very tough thing to say, but the fact is, that the war on terror as conducted by this administration, has claimed more innocent victims that the original attack itself." (George Soros, Remarks At Take Back America Conference, Washington, DC, 6/3/04)

Liberal Democrats Urged Restraint, Blamed America:

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH): "'The Time For Peace Is Now,' (Kucinich) Declared Optimistically July 11, Two Months To The Day Before Terrorists Hit The Pentagon And The World Trade Center. ... Sitting In His Capitol Hill Office Last Week, Near A Window Where He Could See The Smoke Rising From The Pentagon On Sept. 11, Kucinich Insisted He Is More Optimistic Than Ever That People Worldwide Are Ready To Embrace The Cause Of Nonviolence." (Elizabeth Auster, "Offer The Hand Of Peace," (Cleveland, OH) Plain Dealer, 9/30/01)

-- Kucinich: "Afghanistan May Be An Incubator Of Terrorism But It Doesn't Follow That We Bomb Afghanistan ..." (Elizabeth Auster, "Offer The Hand Of Peace," (Cleveland, OH) Plain Dealer, 9/30/01)

Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI): "Only Now Are We Trying To Figure Out What Is Islam. Maybe If There Was A Department Of Peace, They Would Be Able To Say, 'Uh-Oh, We've Got Some Problems With These People,' ... I Truly Believe That If We Had A Department Of Peace, We Would Have Seen (9/11) Coming." (Ethan Wallison, "War A Challenge For Peace Caucus," Roll Call, 10/1/01)

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA): "I Am Convinced That Military Action Will Not Prevent Further Acts Of International Terrorism Against The United States." (Eddy Ramirez, "Calif. Congresswoman Alone In Vote Against War Powers Resolution," (University Of California- Berkeley) Daily Californian, 9/17/01)

Al Sharpton (D-NY) Said That The Attacks On The World Trade Center Are Evidence That "America Is Beginning To Reap What It Has Sown." (Adam Nagourney, "Say It Loud," The New York Times, 12/1/02)

Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) Claimed Osama Bin Laden Could Be Compared To "Revolutionaries That Helped To Cast Off The British Crown." "'One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non- nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown,' Kaptur told an Ohio newspaper, The (Toledo) Blade." (Malie Rulon, "Lawmaker Compares Osama, U.S. Patriots," The Associated Press, 3/6/03)

Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) Said The United States Would "Pay Every Single Hour, Ever Single Day" That Bombs Were Dropped In Afghanistan. "'How much longer does the bombing campaign continue?' Biden asked during an Oct. 22 speech at the Council on Foreign Relations. 'We're going to pay every single hour, every single day it continues.'" (Miles A. Pomper, "Building Anti- Terrorism Coalition Vaults Ahead Of Other Priorities," Congressional Quarterly Weekly, 10/26/01)

-- "The Bombing Campaign, (Biden) Said, Reinforced Existing Stereotypes Of The United States As A 'High-Tech Bully ...'" (Miles A. Pomper, "Building Anti-Terrorism Coalition Vaults Ahead Of Other Priorities," Congressional Quarterly Weekly, 10/26/01)

Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT) Said Osama Bin Laden Not Guilty. Dean: "I Still Have This Old-Fashioned Notion That Even With People Like Osama, Who Is Very Likely To Be Found Guilty, We Should Do Our Best Not To, In Positions Of Executive Power, Not To Prejudge Jury Trials." ("Dean Not Ready To Pronounce Osama Bin Laden Guilty," The Associated Press, 12/26/03)

Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) To High School Students: "How Would (Muslims) Look At Us Today If We Had Been There Helping Them With Some Of That Rather Than Just Being The People Who Are Going To Bomb In Iraq And Go To Afghanistan? ... War Is Expensive Too ... Your Generation Ought To Be Thinking About Whether We Should Be Better Neighbors Out In Other Countries So That They Have A Different Vision Of Us." (Gregg Herrington, "Senator Asks Students To Ponder," The (Vancouver, WA) Columbian, 12/19/02)

Sen. John Kerry (D-MA): "(W)ar On Terror Is Far Less Of A Military Operation And Far More Of An Intelligence-Gathering, Law-Enforcement Operation." (The Iowa Brown & Black Coalition Presidential Forum, Des Moines, IA, 1/11/04)

-- Kerry: "(W)hat We've Learned Is That The War On Terror Is Much More Of An Intelligence Operation And A Law Enforcement Operation." (NPR's "All Things Considered," 3/19/03)

[TexasTiger 13,016]

Here, read this list V - E - R - Y  slowly and perhaps it'll sink it. I know there are many words here, ...

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Yes, many words. And none of them support this assertion: "liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to ... offer therapy ... for our attackers,"

Thanks for clarifying.

[AURaptor 1,126]

There there, little fellah. You'll get it. Just keep trying. Here, let me spell it out for you , even more

liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments ........

- Kerry: "(W)hat We've Learned Is That The War On Terror Is Much More Of An Intelligence Operation And A Law Enforcement Operation." (NPR's "All Things Considered," 3/19/03)

- Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT) Said Osama Bin Laden Not Guilty. Dean: "I Still Have This Old-Fashioned Notion That Even With People Like Osama, Who Is Very Likely To Be Found Guilty, We Should Do Our Best Not To, In Positions Of Executive Power, Not To Prejudge Jury Trials." ("Dean Not Ready To Pronounce Osama Bin Laden Guilty," The Associated Press, 12/26/03)

- Liberal Donor George Soros Claimed America Should Have Treated 9/11 Attacks As Crime, Responded With Police Work. "War is a false and misleading metaphor in the context of combating terrorism. Treating the attacks of September 11 as crimes against humanity would have been more appropriate. Crimes require police work, not military action. To protect against terrorism, you need precautionary measures, awareness, and intelligence gathering - all of which ultimately depend on the support of the populations among which terrorists operate. Imagine for a moment that September 11 had been treated as a crime. We would have pursued Bin Laden in Afghanistan, but we would not have invaded Iraq. Nor would we have our military struggling to perform police work in full combat gear and getting killed in the process." (George Soros, The Bubble Of American Supremacy, 2004, p. 18)

liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers

-Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) To High School Students: "How Would (Muslims) Look At Us Today If We Had Been There Helping Them With Some Of That Rather Than Just Being The People Who Are Going To Bomb In Iraq And Go To Afghanistan? ... War Is Expensive Too ... Your Generation Ought To Be Thinking About Whether We Should Be Better Neighbors Out In Other Countries So That They Have A Different Vision Of Us." (Gregg Herrington, "Senator Asks Students To Ponder," The (Vancouver, WA) Columbian, 12/19/02)

-- Soros Said The Execution Of 9/11 Attacks "Could Not Have Been More Spectacular." "Admittedly, the terrorist attack was a historic event in its own right. Hijacking fully loaded airplanes and using them as suicide bombs was an audacious idea, and the execution could not have been more spectacular." (George Soros, The Bubble Of American Supremacy, 2004, p. 2)

- Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) Claimed Osama Bin Laden Could Be Compared To "Revolutionaries That Helped To Cast Off The British Crown." "'One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non- nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown,' Kaptur told an Ohio newspaper, The (Toledo) Blade." (Malie Rulon, "Lawmaker Compares Osama, U.S. Patriots," The Associated Press, 3/6/03)

*Sigh* The work I do for our less fortunate members of the board......