homersapien 11,393 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 No subscription needed to access this essay. https://wapo.st/3WfXZn4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubaseball 2,633 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Soros has beat him to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 44 minutes ago, aubaseball said: Soros has beat him to it. Didn't read it, did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,823 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 i believe he will and his followers will support him over the constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeTiger 5,135 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Read that this morning. Very good essay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,652 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 “America’s liberal democracy” I love how the Constitutional Republic is totally trashed by the left and the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 19 hours ago, aubiefifty said: i believe he will and his followers will support him over the constitution. They've already demonstrated that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 18 hours ago, autigeremt said: “America’s liberal democracy” I love how the Constitutional Republic is totally trashed by the left and the right. Look up the term "liberal democracy". If you equate that to the "left" you just confirmed the thesis of the essay. (As well as committing a "self-own".) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,823 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, homersapien said: Look up the term "liberal democracy". If you equate that to the "left" you just confirmed the thesis of the essay. (As well as committing a "self-own".) they always act like you are the anti christ and you are not near as mean as i can get. i understand now why some folks take a break. hell we might as well be talking to a wall when it comes to the trump cult. it baffles me. social circle was banned and yet others do the same thing with no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,820 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On 4/24/2024 at 12:12 PM, homersapien said: No subscription needed to access this essay. https://wapo.st/3WfXZn4 Thought the “bloodbath” thing was referring to auto industry. Opinion here reads like it is political violence. He has warned of uprisings, of “bedlam” and a “bloodbath” and he has made clear that he will again be the promoter of this violence, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 (edited) 4 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: Thought the “bloodbath” thing was referring to auto industry. Opinion here reads like it is political violence. Was that your only "takeaway? (I'll give you credit for reading it though.) Edited April 26 by homersapien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,820 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 7 hours ago, homersapien said: Was that your only "takeaway? Sorta quit reading and scanned when I got to the “bloodbath” . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,912 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Here is a different takeaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,912 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) But at the end of the day, you have to remember -- serving in his administration, I was fine with his policies. I think his policies were good policies. My problems came with his behavior which I found very troubling after the election. And I think the idea that he's going to be an autocrat and take over power like some right-wing dictator is not the threat facing our country. The threat to our country is from the far-left and the drift that's been occurring toward really a socialistic system and one that brooks no opposition, that cancels people, that has only one viewpoint taught in colleges that -- you know, tries to push parents out of the picture when it comes to the education of their children. It is a heavy-handed bunch of thugs, in my opinion, and that's where the threat is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/04/21/bill_barr_far-left_radicals_not_trump_are_the_real_threat_to_this_country.html Edited April 27 by AUFAN78 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted April 27 Author Share Posted April 27 Bill Barr is a despicable person. Right up there with Ted Cruz. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,652 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/25/2024 at 10:21 AM, homersapien said: Look up the term "liberal democracy". If you equate that to the "left" you just confirmed the thesis of the essay. (As well as committing a "self-own".) While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic. What does this mean? “Constitutional” refers to the fact that government in the United States is based on a Constitution which is the supreme law of the United States. The Constitution not only provides the framework for how the federal and state governments are structured, but also places significant limits on their powers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnatl1 4,980 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/27/2024 at 5:42 PM, homersapien said: Bill Barr is a despicable person. Right up there with Ted Cruz. I understand why you feel trump and Cruz are “despicable”. A lot. And I can understand why you’d strongly disagree with Barr? But why is he also despicable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
economystupid 23 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/24/2024 at 12:12 PM, homersapien said: No subscription needed to access this essay. https://wapo.st/3WfXZn4 Between the crap Bill Barr's been spouting recently and the commentary and questioning from the Supreme Court last week.....I'd say the Trump people already have destroyed whatever democratic republic we had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arein0 970 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, autigeremt said: While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic. What does this mean? “Constitutional” refers to the fact that government in the United States is based on a Constitution which is the supreme law of the United States. The Constitution not only provides the framework for how the federal and state governments are structured, but also places significant limits on their powers. A Constitutional Republic is a form of a Liberal Democracy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, autigeremt said: While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic. What does this mean? “Constitutional” refers to the fact that government in the United States is based on a Constitution which is the supreme law of the United States. The Constitution not only provides the framework for how the federal and state governments are structured, but also places significant limits on their powers. And.......that constitution lays out the foundation for a liberal democracy. Everything else is process (means). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,652 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Tell yourself whatever you want, but a constitutional republic isn’t a liberal democracy. It’s a form of democratic government mind you, but it isn’t a liberal democracy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnatl1 4,980 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 https://www.northcarolinaforwardparty.com/america_is_a_constitutional_republic_built_on_the_principles_of_liberal_democracy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeTiger 5,135 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 21 minutes ago, autigeremt said: Tell yourself whatever you want, but a constitutional republic isn’t a liberal democracy. It’s a form of democratic government mind you, but it isn’t a liberal democracy. https://www.britannica.com/topic/liberal-democracy Liberal democracy, a form of democracy in which the power of government is limited, and the freedom and rights of individuals are protected, by constitutionally established norms and institutions. Like the broader concept of democracy, liberal democracy is what the Scottish philosopher and political scientist W.B. Gallie (1912–98) called an essentially contested concept, about which no final consensus can exist. Nonetheless, the following underlying principles are broadly recognized as fundamental to liberal democracy: pluralism and toleration (that is, the dispersal of political power among a variety of interest groups and the acceptance of conflicting political viewpoints or priorities between groups); the resolution of political disagreements, where possible, within a constitutional framework and through the rule of law; the separation of powers (including the operation of an independent judiciary); and the protection of individual civil rights. The origins of liberal democracy can be traced in part to a series of historical events and theories circumscribing the role of the state and limiting its powers, in tandem with the development of the idea of individual rights. Liberal democracy in the West is generally thought to have originated in the European Enlightenment and the American and French revolutions of the late 18th century—although some of its foundational principles, such as limited government, harken back to earlier events, such as the signing of the Magna Carta in 1215. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,652 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 🤣that was too easy🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted Tuesday at 12:12 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 12:12 PM 21 hours ago, auburnatl1 said: I understand why you feel trump and Cruz are “despicable”. A lot. And I can understand why you’d strongly disagree with Barr? But why is he also despicable? Because he clearly elevates political partisanship over the general interests of our country. He knows better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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