Bammer shoots their own son

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I found this article about a Bammer trying to shoot his own son. Its a couple of years old, but I think it is a good example of how crazy Bammers are. Here is the link.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1626939

Man charged with attempted murderAssociated Press

PINSON, Ala. -- A Pinson man was charged with attempted murder for holding a gun to his son's head and pulling the trigger in the midst of a tantrum after Alabama's double overtime loss to Arkansas Saturday.

The bullet narrowly missed 20-year-old Seth Logan, who said he picked the wrong time to ask his dad for a car, sheriff's spokesman Deputy Randy Christian said Monday.

Joseph Alan Logan, 46, surrendered to police Saturday and was charged with attempted murder and domestic violence. He was released from the Jefferson County jail Sunday on $7,500 bond.

"I know we take football serious in the South," Christian told The Birmingham News for a Tuesday story, "but that's crossing the line."

The request upset Joseph Logan because his son has already wrecked several vehicles, Logan told investigators.

"He claimed he was just trying to scare his son," Christian said.

According to the police report, Joseph Logan had been drinking alcohol and began slamming doors, tossing boxes and throwing dishes in the sink after the Crimson Tide lost its football game to Arkansas 34-31 in double overtime Saturday.

While Joseph Logan was throwing the tantrum, Seth Logan asked for a new car.

Joseph Logan then retrieved a 9 mm pistol from his car, grabbed his son by the collar and pressed the gun to his son's forehead, the report said.

Logan threatened to shoot his son in the head, then pulled the trigger.

Seth Logan moved his head just as his father fired and the bullet whizzed past him, the report said.

Seth Logan fled to a neighbor's house to call police. He told police his ear was numb and his head ringing, but he was OK.

Sheriff's authorities called the SWAT team after discovering the armed father still had a 13-year-old son in the house with him.

Joseph Alan Logan walked out of the house with the other son and turned himself in to police just before the SWAT team arrived, Christian said.

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I am posting articles to show how crazy Bammers are. This shows the way the Bammers treated Bill Curry when he was the coach in Tuscaloser. Here is the link.

http://www.georgiatrend.com/site/page3880.html

ssy Coach, Classy Guy

Former Tech standout Bill Curry proves that nice guys don't finish last

By Gene Asher

In the annals of college football, many coaches have better won-lost records than William Alexander (Bill) Curry, but none were more respected or more interested in the welfare of his players. Go as far back as Stagg, Rockne, Heisman or as recent as Dodd, Dooley or Jordan and you will find no one who preached that the human soul was worth much more than winning football games.

One of his former players, Delandual Conwell, said it best. "I was recruited by every college in the PAC-10, the Big Ten and the SEC. But none of the coaches came across as straightforward, as honest, as empathetic as Curry did."

"When a tumor ended my playing career and kept me hospitalized, Curry, despite all his coaching and administrative duties, was right there for me. I never met a finer human being."

This is not to say that Curry was a nice guy who finished last. He didn't. When Curry was named head football coach at Georgia Tech in 1980, the football program was flat on its back. "We were at ground zero," Athletics Director Homer Rice said. "Curry restored it to national prominence."

In seven seasons at Tech, he had only a 31-43-4 record. But in his first season, with his team 1-7-0, he entertained undefeated Notre Dame, the No.1-ranked team in America and stunned the Fighting Irish, 3-3. Explained Notre Dame coach Dan Devine, "I was out-coached. Tech was more motivated and better prepared."

The next Saturday Notre Dame was to play Alabama. On the Monday before the game, Curry got the thrill of his life. His secretary came into his office and said, "Coach Bryant is on the line."

"I thought she was kidding me," Curry says. "But Coach Bear Bryant got on the phone and said, 'What can you tell me about Notre Dame?' He was asking me, a rookie coach, for advice. I nearly fell out of my chair."

Five years later, Tech finished 9-2-1, was second in the Atlantic Coast Conference and Curry was the unanimous pick for ACC "Coach of The Year."

Not a bad start for a native son who came back to his alma mater where he had captained the 1960 team and was selected to the All-America team at center. Not a bad start for a coach who insisted his players attend class and pass their work. His players had an 85 percent graduation rate.

In writing about Bill Curry, three words come to mind --- dignity, class and integrity. When he left Georgia Tech in 1987 and agreed to coach the University of Alabama football team, he did so only after a clear understanding with Alabama President Dr. Joab Thomas. If Curry had reason to kick the star player or any other player off the team, no matter how much pressure would be exerted by alumni, President Thomas would back him 100 percent. The agreement was sealed with a handshake.

In Curry's third season he led Alabama to the Southeastern Conference championship and its first Sugar Bowl berth since 1980. He did it by playing by the rules, and there was not the slightest sign of scandal. In his three years at Alabama, he led the Tide to a 26-10 record and three bowl appearances. He was presented the 1989 "Bobby Dodd Coach of The Year" award, a national honor, "in recognition of a higher and more noble aspect of college coaching; a creed that emphasizes something more than winning; a belief that the game of football should be kept in perspective with college life in general."

Bill Curry is a renaissance man if ever there was one. When he was 10 years old, he announced to his father that he was going to marry his elementary school sweetheart, Carolyn Newton. This year they will celebrate their 40th wedding anniversary. He was an all-state football player at College Park High School. He played on four Super Bowl teams, two for Vince Lombardi at Green Bay and two for Don Shula at Baltimore. He was named twice to the All-Pro football team. He was president of the National Football League Players Association.

He is a member of the state of Georgia Sports Hall of Fame. He was a member of the American Football Coaches Association Ethics Committee. He co-authored a book with George Plimpton on professional football. He served on the Board of Directors of Scottish Rite Hospital. Twice he chaired campaigns in eastern Alabama to benefit cancer patients. You might say he has done everything but play in the band --- except that he did that, too. He played the baritone in the College Park High School band three years before he made the varsity football team.

Today Curry is a respected football analyst for ESPN. He recently signed a new four-year contract. The Currys live during the weekdays in a Buckhead condominium; they also have a mountain home, near Murphy, N.C. "From our windows we can see three states," Bill says.

If you think the Currys have led a charmed life, think again. In the past 37 years, with his playing and coaching, they moved 31 times. Despite his success, what they endured from zealous Alabama fans was a horrible nightmare.

What happened at Alabama the Currys will forgive but never forget. When Ray Perkins, one of Bear Bryant's former players, gave up the head coaching job in 1987 to become coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the most likely candidates to succeed him were Bobby Bowden, Howard Schnellenberger and Danny Ford, all of whom had won NCAA national championships and had ties to Alabama or its late, legendary coach, Bear Bryant. The man President Dr. Joab Thomas picked was Bill Curry.

Curry bled gold and white and probably could have had a lifetime job at Georgia Tech. But his ego got the best of him. "Carolyn and I discussed it," he explains, "and she agreed that I ought to seize the opportunity of coaching a team which was a perennial national contender."

In making the announcement of Curry's selection, Thomas said, "He not only is a good football coach but he never has cheated, has no intention of cheating and can use the word 'study' and 'hall' in the same sentence. He is not only free of any scandal but has been an outspoken critic of coaches whose teams have been placed on probation. He can win and he can improve the academic performance of our athletes."

To say that some Tide fans and Bryant disciples were less than enthusiastic about President Thomas' choice would be an understatement. They were downright livid.

Before Curry even arrived on campus, he, his wife, Carolyn, and President Thomas all received death threats. There was a backlash from some of Bryant's former players.

Once Curry and his family settled into a home, the hostility increased. Rocks and assorted missiles were thrown through his office window. The unflappable Curry took it in stride.

"In dealing with criticism, I studied a lot of people like Abe Lincoln, Helen Keller, Jackie Robinson. When they were criticized they just kept going. What I have gone through is a Sunday picnic compared to what they endured."

In his first Tide football season, when his team was expected to be an also-ran, he came within one game of winning the SEC. In his second season, he took his team to the Sun Bowl. Still the harassment continued. Some members of the media called for his resignation.

Furman Bisher, as always straight as an arrow, wrote, in part, "Winning does not impress the Crimson Tide. The problem is Curry is not one of them. The crazies want another Bear Bryant and comparing Bryant to Curry would be like comparing W. C. Fields to Dr. Norman Vincent Peale."

In his third season, Curry accomplished more than his predecessor did in four seasons. And even Bryant could not match Curry in his last three years --- getting Alabama to the Sugar Bowl. Curry's three-year record of 26-10-0 and three straight bowls was as good as that of any coach in Alabama history.

After winning the SEC crown in 1989 he resigned to become the head football coach at Kentucky. He left Alabama with the same class with which he arrived. "Those rabble-rousers, those hangers-on, they are riff-raff who will turn on you in a minute." Curry didn't say it, Bear Bryant did. Curry spent seven seasons at Kentucky. When his contract was not renewed, a columnist for the Lexington Leader, wrote, in part, "Curry is a good and decent man who told his players that if they were going to play football, they were going to classes."

"He gave them a model of gentlemanly conduct. He was an example of dignity in the face of shameful and unfair attacks. He had grace under fire. His departure is Kentucky's loss."

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Geez...i thought we were past this story.

[cleburnecountytigerfan 0]

This article show a lot of problems the Bammers have had over the las 10 years. Here is the link.

http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/stori...all/250964.html

Mothers, don't let your sons grow up to be Division I athletes. Don't send them off to play for the lying, cheating hearts who profess to be professors in the major-college science of turning boys into men.

Save up your pennies; the scholarship isn't worth the pain. Coaches, you see, often major in self-gratification and minor in youth corruption services. If they must enter your living room, be sure to cover your mouth with a white mask. These low representatives of higher education really should come with a surgeon general's warning attached.

In this racket, you can't even trust a 57-year-old grandfather who looks about as wild and crazy as Dick Cheney. So Alabama did what it had to do Saturday, firing a football coach who'd been on the job 15 minutes before he hired a topless dancer named Destiny and invited an unforgiving guest named fate. Of course the man had to go, just like Larry (the Loser) Eustachy has to go, too. Iowa State recently accepted the resignation of Eustachy's assistant, Randy Brown, who faces federal pornography charges after allegedly using the Internet to solicit 15-year-old girls for sex. The school isn't about to spare Brown's boss after he partied with frat girls less than half his age.

Ah, but three isn't a crowd at Iowa State, where another Eustachy aide, Steve Barnes, has been suspended for allegedly threatening school officials in a phone call he made to a player's parents. There's apparently no end to the embarrassment in Ames, where Eustachy was found to have illegally paid players to make foul shots long before he blamed all his troubles on the bottle, Bob Packwood style.

But on the college wire, the immoral compass of big-time sport points to different datelines every other hour. Five months after Dennis Franchione lied to his Alabama players and ran a fast-break to Texas A&M without saying goodbye, and 15 months after the Crimson Tide were left crimson-faced by stiff NCAA sanctions and a brush with the death penalty, Tuscaloosa discovered that the Price of rehabbing its image was far too steep.

If you thought Mike Price was selfish when he insisted on coaching Washington State in the Rose Bowl after accepting the Alabama job, you were surely convinced when he ended up inside a Florida strip club and then inside a hotel room with a woman who wasn't his wife, a woman who charged $1,000 in room-service goodies to his bill.

A report also said Alabama was investigating whether Price had purchased alcohol for students, and the university president, Robert Witt, revealed that his new coach had been warned about his behavior before his fateful Florida trip.

"But most of the players thought he deserved a second chance," Ramzee Robinson, Alabama cornerback, said by phone. "Nobody's perfect. Coach could've redeemed himself. After he was fired, he met with the team for five minutes and just told us, 'I made a mistake, and I was hoping they'd let me prove I could become a better man because of it.' Then he broke down and started crying.

"At least he was honest with us; Coach Franchione wouldn't even look us in the eye. But after going through this twice, you tell me: What are we supposed to do?" How about this: Don't ever again believe in a coach, particularly one who hires his sons as aides. Jerry Tarkanian had Danny, Jim Harrick Sr. had Jim Jr., and Mike Price had Aaron and Eric. Not that anyone should forget scandal's ultimate father-son tag team, Robert and Kort Wickenheiser of St. Bonaventure, the president and assistant coach who put a blow torch to their university's reputation by admitting a kid with a welding certificate.

Coaches can't stop littering their campuses and devaluing their schools' degrees. Just look around: Steve Alford declares innocent an Iowa player named Pierre Pierce, who ultimately pleads guilty to assaulting a woman. Quin Snyder keeps playing Ricky Clemons, who ultimately pleads guilty to assaulting a woman who alleged he choked her and bloodied her nose because she refused his request to watch "Roots."

Joe Paterno actually plays defensive back Anwar Phillips in the Capital One Bowl after Phillips is expelled from Penn State over an encounter with a female student that led to sexual assault charges. A far more ordinary Joe -- Joe Mondragon of Western New Mexico -- actually believes he's motivating African-American basketball players when he uses the most vile word in the English language to describe them on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

Coaches famous and obscure are forever dishonoring their responsibilities as teachers, guardians and role models. It's not just Bobby Knight being Bobby Knight, or George O'Leary living a lie. Sometimes it's a high school coach in Memphis selling a prospect named Albert Means to the University of Alabama for a six-figure sum.

The Tide has had a rough 10 years or so. Remember Wimp Sanderson, forced out after allegedly punching the face belonging to his secretary and longtime mistress? Mike DuBose had his own sexual discrimination case -- one costing the university $350,000 -- and enough NCAA violations on his watch to convince his successor, Franchione, that he shouldn't pay for the sins of others.

His heartless escape opened the door for this unseemly Mike Price case. The same school that has a star lineman refuse Playboy's invitation to attend its preseason all-American bash at an Arizona resort -- "By attending I don't think I would be setting a good example," Wesley Britt said -- now has a shamed ex-coach who tried to walk a mile in Hugh Hefner's slippers.

"I think President Witt is making a mistake," Price said after failing to save his job in an open hearing with university trustees and in a private meeting with Witt. "He's making an error in judgment."

An error in judgment? Look who's talking.

"I apologize to my wife, the team and my coaches," Price said. "I will learn from this."

He's already learned the hard way. Price was fired before he even signed his seven-year, $10-million contract, leaving Mal Moore, Alabama AD, to give it the ol' Knute Rockne try with a devastated and depressed team.

"He told us to stay eligible," Robinson reported. "He told us we shouldn't do anything that would hurt our families or embarrass ourselves."

This pep talk should've been given to the coaches, the ones who always lead the NCAA in embarrassment and hurt.

Edited by: cleburnecountytigerfan at: 6/18/06 9:50:50 am

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This shows what has happened to Bammer football since the Bear died.

Here is the link.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...labama_coaches/

1983-86 Ray Perkins (32-15-1)

Ray Perkins

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The man charged with the unenviable task of replacing college football's greatest coaching legend just months after Bryant died of a heart attack was an All-America receiver on Bryant's 1964 and '65 national championship teams and the head coach of the NFL's New York Giants in the early 1980s. He went 8-4 his first season in Tuscaloosa but began to draw heavy criticism after a 5-6 mark in '84, 'Bama's first losing record in 27 years. He rebounded to go 9-2-1 and 10-3 and was making a salary of $500,000 but grew tired of the rigors of college coaching and the pressure of following in Bryant's footsteps. On New Year's Eve 1986, Perkins returned to the NFL as head coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs.

1987-89 Bill Curry (26-10)

Bill Curry

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Curry's .722 winning percentage remains the highest of any 'Bama coach since Bear. He won two SEC coach of the year awards and one SEC title. So where did he go wrong? One, the Georgia Tech alum and coach came from outside the 'Bama "family" and from a school that Bryant publicly despised, no less. Secondly, he never beat Auburn. His wife received death threats. After a homecoming loss to Ole Miss in 1988, someone threw a brick through his office window. It also came out in '89 that two-thirds of his players were on academic probation. Despite coming off a 10-2 season, Curry resigned to become coach at fellow SEC school Kentucky, a move many considered a clear step backward. He later blamed a new administration that he said tried to strip him of his authority.1990-96 Gene Stallings (62-25)

Gene Stallings

Rick Stewart/Allsports

A former assistant to Bryant and player on his legendary "Junction Boys" team at Texas A&M, Stallings fit the 'Bama mold perfectly, delivering the school its 12th national title in 1992. Unfortunately, his tenure also produced the Tide's first-ever NCAA probation. An investigation found that boosters had provided loans totaling $24,000 to former player Gene Jelks -- whose audio-taped conversations touched off the scandal -- and that the school failed to declare cornerback Antonio Langham ineligible during the '93 season after he signed with an agent. The Tide had to forfeit their '93 wins, were banned from the '95 postseason and lost scholarships in '96 and '97.

1997-2000 Mike DuBose (24-23)

Mike DuBose

Scott Halleran/Allsport

Another former Bryant letterman, DuBose began his tenure dealing with the effects of one probation and ended it embroiled in his own controversies. A month before the start of the 1999 season, DuBose admitted lying about an improper relationship with a female employee, the school settling a sexual harassment claim by the woman for $350,000 and reducing DuBose's pay. DuBose bought himself time when his team went 10-3 and won the SEC championship, but he was fired a year later when the Tide went 3-8. Soon thereafter, the former high school coach for DuBose recruit Albert Means announced that he received $200,000 from boosters to ensure Means signed with 'Bama.2001-2002 Dennis Franchione (17-

Dennis Franchione

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With the threat of an NCAA investigation looming, 'Bama lured the sought-after Franchione from TCU with a seven-year contract reported to be worth $1.2-$1.4 million annually. In February 2002, the NCAA announced its punishment for the Means incident and other violations: five years probation, a two-year bowl ban and the loss of 21 scholarships over three years. Despite that, Franchione managed to retain every player on the roster and lead the Tide to a 10-3 record in 2002. But he started to make fans nervous when he delayed signing a contract extension and word came that further sanctions could be in the offing. Sure enough, after weeks of rumors that he often vehemently denied, Franchione left for Texas A&M.

2003- Mike Price (0-0)

Mike Price

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Having spent his entire head coaching career in the outposts of Ogden, Utah, and Pullman, Wash., the low-key Price hardly seemed a good fit for the pressure cooker that is Tuscaloosa, and while he'd won two Pac-10 titles at Washington State, the program was not a year-in, year-out power. In his first spring at Alabama, though, Price's wide-open passing offense was greeted with excitement, and his spotless off-field record was welcome at a school still reeling from probation. But then came word in late April -- four months before his first game -- that 'Bama was investigating Price's behavior at a golf tournament in Pensacola, Fla., reportedly involving an expensive visit to a strip club and a woman charging $1,000 in room service to his hotel room.

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This talks about Wimp Sanderson having sex with his secretary and then punching her in the face.

Here is the link

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...%20of%20Alabama

An eight-member jury was selected yesterday in United States District Court in Tuscaloosa, Ala., in a sexual discriminatiopn lawsuit by NANCY WATTS, the former secretary to WIMP SANDERSON, who alleges that Sanderson socked her in the eye last year, an incident that cost the winningest coach in University of Alabama basketball history his job nearly 11 months ago. Sanderson maintains he was a victim of jealousy after breaking off a 15-year affair. Testimony may not begin for several days because there are about a half-dozen cases on the docket. (AP)

[cleburnecountytigerfan 0]

This is about Mike DuBose having sex with his own secretary. Heree is the link.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...%20of%20Alabama

Alabama reached a $350,000 settlement with an employee who had accused Mike DuBose, the school's football coach, of sexual harassment, and DuBose apologized yesterday for embarrassing the university. An emotional DuBose, reading a brief statement, said he had reached a settlement in the case but did not disclosed

[cleburnecountytigerfan 0]

Bammers complain about people turning them in to the NCAA, but this articles shows Bear Bryant turned Auburn in to the NCAA back in 1980.

NCAA has always had bad case of tunnel vision

COMMENTARY By BILL LUMPKIN

BIRMINGHAM POST-HERALD

When the NCAA hammered Florida for numerous violations in 1992, then SEC commissioner Boyd McWhorter was highly upset, and said so. It wasn't the severe penalties inflicted on a conference member that drew his wrath. He disagreed with the NCAA giving "get-out-of-jail" cards to guilty parties.

Players who gave damaging evidence were granted immunity. The players had accepted "gifts" to sign, a no-no. McWhorter wanted nothing short of them being declared ineligible. Sound familiar?

What we see here is similar to what transpired in that never-ending debauchery in Memphis, in which Alabama, now a three-time loser, was the only one of several violators to be charged and sentenced.

Even going back to Auburn's NCAA misgivings that prevented the 1957 national championship team from playing in a bowl, the NCAA has had tunnel vision. One guilty school. Pointing a finger at Alabama, also involved in the shady recruitment of the same athlete, was looked on as sour grapes.

Familiar?

In 1980, an NCAA agent, again investigating Auburn, showed up on the Alabama campus with a prepared list of nine players, players who had been reported to the NCAA as being illegally recruited by Auburn.

Who ratted on Auburn? What school knew? Who also recruited them? Who signed them? Surely, Alabama didn't do the first. The similarity to Memphis here is that Tennessee Coach Phillip Fulmer reportedly did in Alabama. The high school coach who admitted mastermining the bidding scheme for player Albert Means claims Tennessee made a specific offer, as did others.

The NCAA cited no other school. Only Alabama. Immunity again? Tennessee? In that 1980 investigation, the NCAA interviewed a player Alabama had signed and who had dropped out of school. His question to the NCAA agent was: why ask about Auburn when he signed with Alabama? The reply: the NCAA wasn't investigating Alabama.

That kind of tunnel vision is also what we had in Memphis. The NCAA doesn't change tactics. I can certainly understand the NCAA's interest when informed a high school player was being auctioned for as much as $200,000.

I can certainly understand the NCAA's focusing on Alabama when the person of Alabama athletic interest was Logan Young, a rich and rabid booster, who was doing the high bidding.

Young probably has sat in more Alabama press boxes than most state writers, and a lot of Tide assistants. He and Alabama Coach Paul Bryant were tight friends. He once had Bryant involved in a group that was interested in getting an NFL team in Memphis. The number of Alabama coaches and athletic department people who have been Young's house guests probably are too many to be counted on both hands.

Young was Alabama. The NCAA found Alabama guilty. A federal court concurred, giving him jail time.

Incidentally, at the time, Means was the 11th player signed by Alabama from the Memphis area in the previous nine years. No other Memphis player was cited in the investigation. Hummmm. A staunch booster buys just one player?

However, what is going to be interesting is the trial of a suit that has been filed against the NCAA on behalf of former Alabama assistants Ivy Williams and Ronnie Cottrell. The NCAA now has subpoena power, which it doesn't have in investigations.

This is where you raise your hand and swear on the Bible. This is where, if perjury is commited, the next witness might tell the truth. Maybe we'll find out who all knew about the Means bidding in the home office.

One thing is for sure, this Memphis ordeal refuses to go away quietly. Please, let it. Who cares now?

[OKieAuburnDoug 1]

Anyone have a link to the trailerpark trash murder back in the 90s involving an Auburn fan and Alabama fan..one egged the other's trailer and got killed for it (following the Iron Bowl)??

[cleburnecountytigerfan 0]

Anyone have a link to the trailerpark trash murder back in the 90s involving an Auburn fan and Alabama fan..one egged the other's trailer and got killed for it (following the Iron Bowl)??

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I know a Bammer shot and killed an Auburn fan after the 1997 Iron Bowl, but I cant find a story for it. The stories I have posted on this board so far are the only stories I have.

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:huh:

[cleburnecountytigerfan 0]

This proves Bear Bryant cheated while he coached at Texas A&M. This information comes from the the book "The Junction Boys." You can find the information about Bear Bryant cheating at Texas A&M on pages 11-12 of "The Junction Boys." You can also find information Bear Bryant cheated in his autiobiograpy "The Life and Hard Times of Bear Bryant." Bear Bryant admitted he cheated at Texas A&M in his own autobiography.

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It turns out, according to Dent's book, that when Bryant first met with five heavy-hitters (named in the book, pages 11-12) among the alumni, he organized the cheating. After he won the commitment of money to buy players, Bryant told them: "A couple of years ago, the N.C.A.A. got cute and started an enforcement division.... So I'm asking you boys to keep your mouths shut."

In 1954-57, or even within the decade following, this orchestrated cheating by Bryant himself would have made sensational news, the way it would today if we learned David Broder is a communist

We could hardly get w boys." And later: "I'm not sure how many of our boys got something; I guess about four or five did. I didn't know what they got, and I didn't want to know, but they got something because they had other offers and I told my alumni to meet the competition."

[cleburnecountytigerfan 0]

Here is a story about Mike Price running around the city of Pensacola with a ugly stripper named Destiny.

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/caple/030611.html

Jim Harrick must be kicking himself right about now. Georgia got rid of him as coach and he didn't get to have any fun at all first.

Unlike Mike Price, Larry Eustachy and Rick Neuheisel, Harrick lost his coaching job due to boring old academic fraud. No strippers, no kegs, no drunk sorority girls, no NCAA tournament pools, no Crisco parties. Heck, he didn't even get to shout, "How 'Bout Dem Dawgs?'' during a lap dance at the Gold Club.

Even Bluto is shocked at the behavior of these coaches.

Meanwhile, his peers are being fired for everything but sleeping with Dean Wormer's wife.

First, Iowa State suspended and later canned Eustachy for drinking with students on other campuses. Then Alabama fired Price before he ever coached a game there over a drinking binge with strippers. And now the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports that the Huskies will fire Neuheisel for betting $6,400 in NCAA basketball tournament pools.

Sex, booze and gambling. Good Lord. You read the stories and the first question is, What, no assault rifles? Sex, booze and gambling. Suddenly, shipping a FedEx envelope full of cash to a recruit seems positively old-school. Sex, booze and gambling. Up to the dismissals, I kept expecting someone to place all three coaches on double-secret probation.

A stripper named Destiny, a winning NCAA bracket and your two best friends, Jack Daniels and Jim Beam? Those aren't fireable offenses, that's Bill Clinton's idea of a perfect weekend.

Some see the coaches as ridiculously reckless for risking their jobs with such wild behavior. I don't see it that way, though. After all, why should the players have all the fun in recruiting violations? I mean, if you're going to get fired, wouldn't you rather have brought some pleasure into your own life instead of merely providing it for some prima donna who's just going to sign with UCLA anyway?

The question is not whether any of the three coaches should have been fired or what they were thinking. Rather, it's which coach enjoyed himself more on the way to getting fired: Neuheisel, Price or Eustachy? Let's take a look at the film.

After his night with Destiny, Price had to have his beer goggles surgically removed.

Mike Price, Alabama

Pros: He played in a celebrity golf tournament. Away from his wife, he prowled the local strip clubs, drank himself silly and spent the night in his hotel room with at least one stripper (and possibly two). One stripper claims she shouted "Roll Tide!!!" during "aggressive sex," to which Price replied, "It's rolling, baby, it's rolling!" Sex, booze and free golf? You can't beat that. At least not in Tuscaloosa.

Cons: One stripper charged more than $1,000 for room service to his credit card. Price says he can't remember anything he did. And did you get a look at Destiny? Ouch.

Rick Neuheisel, Washington

Pros: He reportedly won more than $12,000 with a $6,400 parlay on Maryland and Syracuse in the last two NCAA tournaments.

Cons: There were no strippers, no sex (aggressive or otherwise) and he didn't pass out drunk.

Larry Eustachy, Iowa State

Pros: On repeated occasions following games at other campuses, he got hog-whimpering drunk at student parties and received kisses from pretty co-eds.

Cons: He didn't get past first base with any of them.

So who ranks No. 1 in the Page 2/BCS poll? I'm eliminating Eustachy due to relative lack of strength of schedule. Being a Big Man on Campus is nice; but when you're on someone else's turf as Eustachy was, you better at least be wearing a toga.

That narrows it down to Price and Neuheisel.

So the two coaches at last year's season-ending Apple Cup game between Washington and Washington State are apparently both getting fired in disgrace before the end of the school year. It's amazing to me that the reasons they're getting the axe have nothing to do with an athlete, recruiting, academics or a losing record. But anyone who knows the Washington-Washington State rivalry should find their behavior reassuringly appropriate. Price, like all good Cougars, was nailed after a night of binge drinking and cheap sex. A Husky through and through, Neuheisel just concentrated on the money.

Your future awaits Mr. Neuheisel ... Vegas, baby. Vegas!

Who had the better time? Maybe it's because I'm a Washington alumnus but I've got to go with Neuheisel.

Price may have a ready-made pickup line for his next night on the town -- "How would you like to order room service with the only undefeated coach in Alabama history?" - but he doesn't have a job or even the memories from a night of passion and sexual fantasy. There isn't much point in having a night to remember if you forget it the very next morning.

Neuheisel, meanwhile, can remember what he did. He can also wave $12,000 dollar bills in front of his friends' faces, wiggle his rear and shout "Who's got March Madness now!!!"

Besides, he doesn't need to worry. He's negotiating a big severance deal that should take care of him very n

[AUChizad 0]

Quick jabs I had to throw in:

Bryant to Curry would be like comparing W. C. Fields to Dr. Norman Vincent Peale."

Of course, the other obvious similarity between Bear Bryant and W.C. Fields is the fact that they are both famous alcoholics.

So where did he go wrong? One, the Georgia Tech alum and coach came from outside the 'Bama "family" and from a school that Bryant publicly despised, no less.

And there's an all-too-obvious incest joke to be made here.

[BamaGrad03 0]

This thread is great for the board... /sarcasm

What are you...like 12 years old or something?

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

I found this article about a Bammer trying to shoot his own son. Its a couple of years old, but I think it is a good example of how crazy Bammers are. Here is the link.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1626939

Man charged with attempted murderAssociated Press

PINSON, Ala. -- A Pinson man was charged with attempted murder for holding a gun to his son's head and pulling the trigger in the midst of a tantrum after Alabama's double overtime loss to Arkansas Saturday.

The bullet narrowly missed 20-year-old Seth Logan, who said he picked the wrong time to ask his dad for a car, sheriff's spokesman Deputy Randy Christian said Monday.

Joseph Alan Logan, 46, surrendered to police Saturday and was charged with attempted murder and domestic violence. He was released from the Jefferson County jail Sunday on $7,500 bond.

"I know we take football serious in the South," Christian told The Birmingham News for a Tuesday story, "but that's crossing the line."

The request upset Joseph Logan because his son has already wrecked several vehicles, Logan told investigators.

"He claimed he was just trying to scare his son," Christian said.

According to the police report, Joseph Logan had been drinking alcohol and began slamming doors, tossing boxes and throwing dishes in the sink after the Crimson Tide lost its football game to Arkansas 34-31 in double overtime Saturday.

While Joseph Logan was throwing the tantrum, Seth Logan asked for a new car.

Joseph Logan then retrieved a 9 mm pistol from his car, grabbed his son by the collar and pressed the gun to his son's forehead, the report said.

Logan threatened to shoot his son in the head, then pulled the trigger.

Seth Logan moved his head just as his father fired and the bullet whizzed past him, the report said.

Seth Logan fled to a neighbor's house to call police. He told police his ear was numb and his head ringing, but he was OK.

Sheriff's authorities called the SWAT team after discovering the armed father still had a 13-year-old son in the house with him.

Joseph Alan Logan walked out of the house with the other son and turned himself in to police just before the SWAT team arrived, Christian said.

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I refuse to judge Alabama fans by this guy and think it is wrong to base their fanbase off of this. That guy was just messed up period and any number of things could have set him off.

[Captain Liger 0]

I refuse to judge Alabama fans by this guy and think it is wrong to base their fanbase off of this.

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Well poo, you're no fun at all.

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

I refuse to judge Alabama fans by this guy and think it is wrong to base their fanbase off of this.

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Well poo, you're no fun at all.

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Nah I like making fun of Alabama, just gotta draw the line on that out of respect for life. Can't stand dumb careless acts like that, like that guy in Florida that accidentally shot a bullet at his kid. Though he said his intention was to scare his kid to make him get off the computer and the gun went off. Idiots, who in their right mind plays with someone's life like that.

[Captain Liger 0]

I refuse to judge Alabama fans by this guy and think it is wrong to base their fanbase off of this.

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Well poo, you're no fun at all.

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Nah I like making fun of Alabama, just gotta draw the line on that out of respect for life. Can't stand dumb careless acts like that, like that guy in Florida that accidentally shot a bullet at his kid. Though he said his intention was to scare his kid to make him get off the computer and the gun went off. Idiots, who in their right mind plays with someone's life like that.

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Bammers; and therefore they deserve your scorn and ridicule.

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

lol, they do have it.... but I really think very few would put a gun to their own kids head.

[Captain Liger 0]

I really think very few would put a gun to their own kids head.

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Oh no? Well then, see this picture? My father locked and loaded when I converted to Auburn at age 7!! Crazy a$$ bammers!! The prosecution rests, your honor.

[cleburnecountytigerfan 0]

This next article shows the Bammer football team has the lowest graduation rates in the SEC. I always knew Bammers were stupid.

Here is the link

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/p...NEWS02/51220007

NCAA study shows Alabama’s football graduation rate worst in SEC

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) — Only 39 percent of University of Alabama football players who entered school from 1995 to 1998 graduated within six years, the worst rate in the Southeastern Conference and fifth worst among 116 Division I-A schools, according to a new NCAA study released Monday.

The study found that Auburn’s football team graduated 59 percent, fourth in the SEC.

University of Alabama officials emphasized that the study does not indicate the academic progress of players currently at the school or any who were recruited by third-year head coach Mike Shula.

Shula said his team will have 15 graduates on its roster at the Cotton Bowl on Jan. 2.

“Those rates, there’s a lot of things involved, as I’ve learned,” Shula told The Birmingham News in a story Tuesday. “All you do is worry about things you can control, and that is our guys that are here now.”

Nationally, the National Collegiate Athletic Association reported that 76 percent of its athletes in all sports who enrolled between 1995 and 1998 graduated within six years. The lowest-rated Division I sport was men’s basketball with 58 percent, and the highest was women’s lacrosse, with 94 percent of athletes graduating.

The new Graduation Success Rate, or GSR, is the first compiled by the NCAA and differs from the previous, federally mandated Graduation Progress Rate. NCAA President Myles Brand said the GSR is more accurate.

Among Division I-A football teams, Alabama ranked ahead of only Florida Atlantic, the University of Nevada-Las Vegas, San Jose State and Texas-El Paso.

“Initially, it’s surprising,” said Jon Dever, assistant athletics director for student services at Alabama. But he said it’s not as surprising when you consider that the study covers players who entered Alabama at a time when the football program was in transition, with

Coach Gene Stalling leaving and Mike DuBose taking over.

Mark Richard, Auburn’s senior associate athletics director for team support, said the new model is “very fair” to universities.

“In the past, coaches would throw their arms up in the air and wonder why they should be held accountable for student-athletes who leave in good standing for a chance elsewhere,” Richard said. “This is more of a true understanding to what the graduation success rate is.”

The NCAA acknowledges the data released Monday characterizes past academic climates better than today’s.

“In some of our sports, a lot of water has gone over the dam since then,” said Walt Harrison, chairman of the NCAA’s committee on academic performance.

In February, the NCAA will announce penalties, most notably the loss of scholarships, for teams that fall below a certain APR cutoff score. Officials at Alabama and Auburn said none of their teams face penalties.

[BamaGrad03 0]

Why is this thread not in the shed yet?

[vatz22au 142]

because its entertaining

[quietfan 233]

You know, I hate to say it, but it's threads like this that feed Bama's claims that we obsess about them.

JMO, but: Ancient history...yawn...