Another Republican Pervert

[Tigermike 3,065]

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

I'm disgusted by predatory behavior toward minors, regardless who does it. This has nothing to do with orientation. That's just how you guys choose to view it. If the IMs were to a 16 year old female page would you get it then?

So you are saying that if he had sent the messages to an adult male you would be OK with it?

[TexasTiger 13,053]

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

I'm disgusted by predatory behavior toward minors, regardless who does it. This has nothing to do with orientation. That's just how you guys choose to view it. If the IMs were to a 16 year old female page would you get it then?

So you are saying that if he had sent the messages to an adult male you would be OK with it?

Not if he was a subordinate staff member. Otherwise, it wouldn't really be a story except in the Republican world were many members of the base wouldn't tolerate a known gay official.

[Tiger Al 0]

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

You feign obtuseness very well.

[Tiger Al 0]

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

I'm disgusted by predatory behavior toward minors, regardless who does it. This has nothing to do with orientation. That's just how you guys choose to view it. If the IMs were to a 16 year old female page would you get it then?

So you are saying that if he had sent the messages to an adult male you would be OK with it?

What two consenting adults do is none of my business. Is it yours?

[CCTAU 3,351]

You're right, Al. They can't just deal with the bad behavior without saying the libruls are worse. CCTAU seems to think Republicans are free to molest at will since Teddy's on the loose.

Like already stated. Just pointing out the hypocritical nature of demons. Make sure you take a shower and use deoderent yourself before you start trying to tell someone else they stink. I guess living in the stink for as long as you guys have, you get used to the smell.

[TexasTiger 13,053]

You're right, Al. They can't just deal with the bad behavior without saying the libruls are worse. CCTAU seems to think Republicans are free to molest at will since Teddy's on the loose.

Like already stated. Just pointing out the hypocritical nature of demons. Make sure you take a shower and use deoderent yourself before you start trying to tell someone else they stink. I guess living in the stink for as long as you guys have, you get used to the smell.

You're the one defending child molesters, dude...as long as they're conservative child molesters.

[Tigermike 3,065]

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

I'm disgusted by predatory behavior toward minors, regardless who does it. This has nothing to do with orientation. That's just how you guys choose to view it. If the IMs were to a 16 year old female page would you get it then?

So you are saying that if he had sent the messages to an adult male you would be OK with it?

What two consenting adults do is none of my business. Is it yours?

Tex started this thread titled "Another Republican Pervert". This is what I said:

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

I haven't read the e-mails of this guy and don't care to. But I still think it is hypocritical of you and Tex and the DNC to make a crusade out of this. You defend perversion unless it is a republican. Yeah that is sincere. I also think it is hypocritical of the dems to make a big deal out of this at this time. Ahhh the election is around the corner, that always makes politicians ethical and moral doesn't it? If your guys knew about it for some time why didn't they make it public before now?

[TexasTiger 13,053]

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

I'm disgusted by predatory behavior toward minors, regardless who does it. This has nothing to do with orientation. That's just how you guys choose to view it. If the IMs were to a 16 year old female page would you get it then?

So you are saying that if he had sent the messages to an adult male you would be OK with it?

What two consenting adults do is none of my business. Is it yours?

Tex started this thread titled "Another Republican Pervert". This is what I said:

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

I haven't read the e-mails of this guy and don't care to. But I still think it is hypocritical of you and Tex and the DNC to make a crusade out of this. You defend perversion unless it is a republican. Yeah that is sincere. I also think it is hypocritical of the dems to make a big deal out of this at this time. Ahhh the election is around the corner, that always makes politicians ethical and moral doesn't it? If your guys knew about it for some time why didn't they make it public before now?

It's the Dems fault the story is breaking now. How inconvenient. Couldn't we let Foley harass a few more kids first, you know, at least until after the election?

[Tiger Al 0]

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

I'm disgusted by predatory behavior toward minors, regardless who does it. This has nothing to do with orientation. That's just how you guys choose to view it. If the IMs were to a 16 year old female page would you get it then?

So you are saying that if he had sent the messages to an adult male you would be OK with it?

What two consenting adults do is none of my business. Is it yours?

Tex started this thread titled "Another Republican Pervert". This is what I said:

It seems a little strange to me that Al & Tex (on this board) have been the champions of gay rights for the past several years. They have defended and railed against anyone who called gays perverts but now they are calling this gay guy a pervert. Are Republican pervs worse than democrat pervs?

BTW - I haven't seen anyone defend this guy. I have seen several point out the obvious hypocrisy of the dems.

I haven't read the e-mails of this guy and don't care to. But I still think it is hypocritical of you and Tex and the DNC to make a crusade out of this. You defend perversion unless it is a republican. Yeah that is sincere. I also think it is hypocritical of the dems to make a big deal out of this at this time. Ahhh the election is around the corner, that always makes politicians ethical and moral doesn't it? If your guys knew about it for some time why didn't they make it public before now?

OK, I get it. You weren't feigning obtuseness. What non-republican perversion have I defended?

[CCTAU 3,351]

You're right, Al. They can't just deal with the bad behavior without saying the libruls are worse. CCTAU seems to think Republicans are free to molest at will since Teddy's on the loose.

Like already stated. Just pointing out the hypocritical nature of demons. Make sure you take a shower and use deoderent yourself before you start trying to tell someone else they stink. I guess living in the stink for as long as you guys have, you get used to the smell.

You're the one defending child molesters, dude...as long as they're conservative child molesters.

I didn't defend him a$$wipe. I just pointed out that you guys sure are brave to go after the bad ole republican when your own drunk a$$ murderers are upheld as Gods in your party. If the guy is guilty, fry him.

When your guy is guilty, you cover it up, give him a raise, and uphold him as the leader of your cause.

And as you can see, he is already being taken care of. Thats what a party responsibility does. It makes sure thes types of people know to go ahead and resign. Your nasty ole bastages just hide behind your party until it blows over.

[TexasTiger 13,053]

You're right, Al. They can't just deal with the bad behavior without saying the libruls are worse. CCTAU seems to think Republicans are free to molest at will since Teddy's on the loose.

Like already stated. Just pointing out the hypocritical nature of demons. Make sure you take a shower and use deoderent yourself before you start trying to tell someone else they stink. I guess living in the stink for as long as you guys have, you get used to the smell.

You're the one defending child molesters, dude...as long as they're conservative child molesters.

I didn't defend him a$$wipe. I just pointed out that you guys sure are brave to go after the bad ole republican when your own drunk a$$ murderers are upheld as Gods in your party. If the guy is guilty, fry him.

When your guy is guilty, you cover it up, give him a raise, and uphold him as the leader of your cause.

And as you can see, he is already being taken care of. Thats what a party responsibility does. It makes sure thes types of people know to go ahead and resign. Your nasty ole bastages just hide behind your party until it blows over.

Yeah, his party took care of him real good. Kept it quiet as long as they could. Didn't formally review the complaint, took his $100,000 donation to the RCCC after knowing about it. Asking him now for his 2.7 million, tried to work a deal with ABC to keep the worst part quiet. There has never been a less responsible political party in our nation's history.

[Tiger Al 0]

I didn't defend him a$$wipe. I just pointed out that you guys sure are brave to go after the bad ole republican when your own drunk a$$ murderers are upheld as Gods in your party. If the guy is guilty, fry him.

When your guy is guilty, you cover it up, give him a raise, and uphold him as the leader of your cause.

And as you can see, he is already being taken care of. Thats what a party responsibility does. It makes sure thes types of people know to go ahead and resign. Your nasty ole bastages just hide behind your party until it blows over.

WASHINGTON - Top House Republicans knew for months about e-mails between Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., and a teenage page, but kept the matter secret, GOP lawmakers said Saturday.

The revelations set off a political uproar with Democrats and some Republicans calling for a full investigation of Foley, who resigned abruptly Friday over the inappropriate e-mails, and whether House leaders did enough to look into them. Republican leaders sought late Saturday to detail how they had handled the case, which threatened to expand into intense turmoil for the party.

Among those who became aware of the e-mails between Foley and the 16-year-old page were Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, the majority leader, and Rep. Thomas Reynolds of New York, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. Both men said their offices learned of the e-mails months ago from Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., who sponsored the page.

What Hastert was told

Reynolds said in a statement Saturday that he had personally raised the issue with House Speaker Dennis Hastert earlier this year, contradicting the speaker's assertions Friday that he learned of concerns about Foley only last week.

Hastert on Saturday did not dispute Reynolds' claims, and his office confirmed that some of Hastert's top aides knew last year that Foley had been ordered to cease contact with the boy and to treat all pages respectfully.

"While the Speaker does not explicitly recall this conversation" with Reynolds, "he has no reason to dispute Congressman Reynolds's recollection," read a lengthy statement issued by his office Saturday.

Hastert's statement -- issued after senior aides, the House clerk and legal advisers huddled for much of Saturday in the Capitol -- said senior staff members in the speaker's office first learned of the e-mail messages in the fall of 2005 and took steps to investigate.

Aides to the speaker and other congressional Republican leaders said that the messages brought to their attention -- described as "over friendly" -- were much less explicit than others that came to light last week.

Reynolds became the second senior House Republican to say that Hastert has known of Foley's contacts for months. Boehner told the Washington Post on Friday that he learned in late spring of inappropriate e-mails and that he promptly told Hastert, who appeared to know already of the concerns. Hours later, Boehner contacted the Post to say he could not be sure he had spoken with Hastert.

LINK

[DKW 86 7,450]

I just saw this thread.

Tex, Al, both of you know that politicians are not that great for role models.

Foley is gone, Hastert is now being pressured to go.

If this were about Dems they would be honorary members of the Kennedy Klan by now.

Just ask Jackson Brown, Bill Maher, and Alec Baldwin, women beaters all.

BTW, the pages knew about this guy for years, at least going back to 2000. So you have to wonder why is all this coming out only now...There is no way that the Dems didnt know about this for years as well.

No one here is defending the guy, but if he was a Dem, heck, he would be getting merit badges from liberals by next weekend.

[Tiger Al 0]

I just saw this thread.

Tex, Al, both of you know that politicians are not that great for role models.

Foley is gone, Hastert is now being pressured to go.

If this were about Dems they would be honorary members of the Kennedy Klan by now.

Just ask Jackson Brown, Bill Maher, and Alec Baldwin, women beaters all.

Once again, the party of personal responsibility's answer is..."At least we're not like them!"

[DKW 86 7,450]

Studds has sex with male teen page.

What did he get Al? Did he resign Tex?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds

Studds is remembered chiefly for his role in the 1983 Congressional page sex scandal, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships with a minor – in Studds's case, a 1973 relationship with a 17-year-old male congressional page. The relationship was consensual, but violated age of consent laws and presented ethical concerns relating to working relationships with subordinates.

During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay."

As the House read their censure of him, Studds turned his back and ignored them. Later, at a press conference with the former page standing beside him, the two stated that what had happened between them was nobody's business but their own.

Since retiring from Congress in 1997

He only served 14 more years and he had SEX with the intern. Far worse than anything Foley ever did. So Al, So Tex, want to inform us on why the Dems are so superior to the Republicans on this one?

I predict this thread will grow very very quiet after this.

I just saw this thread.

Tex, Al, both of you know that politicians are not that great for role models.

Foley is gone, Hastert is now being pressured to go.

If this were about Dems they would be honorary members of the Kennedy Klan by now.

Just ask Jackson Brown, Bill Maher, and Alec Baldwin, women beaters all.

Once again, the party of personal responsibility's answer is..."At least we're not like them!"

Nothing could be as bad as to be like a Dem...

[DKW 86 7,450]

And now we remember Mel Reynolds...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Reynolds

Melvin Jay "Mel" Reynolds (born January 8, 1952) was a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives from the state of Illinois. Reynolds currenty works for Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition.

In August of 1994, he was indicted for having sex with a sixteen year old campaign volunteer yet was allowed to continue running for re-election. In November of 1994 he was reelected. Reynolds initially denied what he claimed were racially motivated charges. On August 22, 1995 he was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. He resigned his seat on October 1, 1995.

He was forced to resign due to House rules, he did not resign on his own.

Reynolds was sentenced to five years in prison and expected to be released in 1998. However, in April of 1997, he was convicted on fifteen counts of bank fraud and lying to SEC investigators and as a result, was sentenced to an additional six and a half years in federal prison. After serving 42 months of his 78 month sentence, U.S. President Bill Clinton commuted his sentence and Reynolds served the balance in a half way house. Mel Reynolds served his entire sentence on the original charges.

Yeah, we see the moral integrity of the Democratic party....How could we miss it?

[CCTAU 3,351]

Studds has sex with male teen page.

What did he get Al? Did he resign Tex?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds

Studds is remembered chiefly for his role in the 1983 Congressional page sex scandal, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships with a minor – in Studds's case, a 1973 relationship with a 17-year-old male congressional page. The relationship was consensual, but violated age of consent laws and presented ethical concerns relating to working relationships with subordinates.

During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay."

As the House read their censure of him, Studds turned his back and ignored them. Later, at a press conference with the former page standing beside him, the two stated that what had happened between them was nobody's business but their own.

Since retiring from Congress in 1997

He only served 14 more years and he had SEX with the intern. Far worse than anything Foley ever did. So Al, So Tex, want to inform us on why the Dems are so superior to the Republicans on this one?

I predict this thread will grow very very quiet after this.

I just saw this thread.

Tex, Al, both of you know that politicians are not that great for role models.

Foley is gone, Hastert is now being pressured to go.

If this were about Dems they would be honorary members of the Kennedy Klan by now.

Just ask Jackson Brown, Bill Maher, and Alec Baldwin, women beaters all.

Once again, the party of personal responsibility's answer is..."At least we're not like them!"

Nothing could be as bad as to be like a Dem...

Morally, what is going on is a farce. Legaly, I believe the age of consent is 16 in D.C.. Does not make it right, but legaly, what could be done in both cases. If anything, Bill Clinton taught us that if it is not illegal, then its OK to do it.

[Tiger Al 0]

He only served 14 more years and he had SEX with the intern. Far worse than anything Foley ever did. So Al, So Tex, want to inform us on why the Dems are so superior to the Republicans on this one?

Nobody is superior to the repubs, David. You tell us so all the time. You've owned the moral high road since you annointed yourselves "God's Party." Instead of walking the walk of "the party of personal responsibility", you point your fingers at Democrats, the media, movie stars, "timing", Bill Clinton and anything else that you can to maintain your perpetual state of victimhood. Somebody's always picking on the poor republicans. You've had control of all three branches of government for the last six years and still it's the so-called "liberal media bias'" fault. You blame the minority party when America thinks your ideas are bad such as the Social Security debacle, etc. I hear republicans blaming Democrats for welfare all the time, but, what have republicans done to change the system in the six years they've had total control? And, yet, they blame Democrats.

[DKW 86 7,450]

He only served 14 more years and he had SEX with the intern. Far worse than anything Foley ever did. So Al, So Tex, want to inform us on why the Dems are so superior to the Republicans on this one?

Nobody is superior to the repubs, David. You tell us so all the time. You've owned the moral high road since you annointed yourselves "God's Party." Instead of walking the walk of "the party of personal responsibility", you point your fingers at Democrats, the media, movie stars, "timing", Bill Clinton and anything else that you can to maintain your perpetual state of victimhood. Somebody's always picking on the poor republicans. You've had control of all three branches of government for the last six years and still it's the so-called "liberal media bias'" fault. You blame the minority party when America thinks your ideas are bad such as the Social Security debacle, etc. I hear republicans blaming Democrats for welfare all the time, but, what have republicans done to change the system in the six years they've had total control? And, yet, they blame Democrats.

Wow Al, that was a really good topic hijack right there.

The question was....

So Al, So Tex, want to inform us on why the Dems are so superior to the Republicans on this one?

[Tiger Al 0]

He only served 14 more years and he had SEX with the intern. Far worse than anything Foley ever did. So Al, So Tex, want to inform us on why the Dems are so superior to the Republicans on this one?

Nobody is superior to the repubs, David. You tell us so all the time. You've owned the moral high road since you annointed yourselves "God's Party." Instead of walking the walk of "the party of personal responsibility", you point your fingers at Democrats, the media, movie stars, "timing", Bill Clinton and anything else that you can to maintain your perpetual state of victimhood. Somebody's always picking on the poor republicans. You've had control of all three branches of government for the last six years and still it's the so-called "liberal media bias'" fault. You blame the minority party when America thinks your ideas are bad such as the Social Security debacle, etc. I hear republicans blaming Democrats for welfare all the time, but, what have republicans done to change the system in the six years they've had total control? And, yet, they blame Democrats.

Wow Al, that was a really good topic hijack right there.

The question was....

So Al, So Tex, want to inform us on why the Dems are so superior to the Republicans on this one?

Wow, Dave, that was a really good job of post-padding right there. As I said, nobody's superior to the republicans. You tell us so everyday.

[Bottomfeeder 244]

Found this on a blog, thought it be interesting to consider. How many counts does this #### have?

Hard time, BOHICA!

Posted by: WashingtonBigfoot | Oct 1, 2006 9:25:06 PM

Wow - Now the F.B.I. is investigating. Among the various State statutes that Mr. Foley can be prosecuted under (by State officials of course), the Federal Code that governs Mr. Foley’s conduct is clear:

From the U.S. Department of Justice website:

Luring any individual, including a child, by knowingly persuading, inducing, enticing or coercing any person…to engage in…sexual activity that constitutes a criminal offense violates federal law. See 18 U.S.C. § 2422.

An example of luring would occur if an adult found a child in a chat room and used email correspondence with the child to persuade the child meet him with the intent that the child engage in sexual activity.

Even if the child in this example did not have to cross a state line to meet the pedophile, the pedophile could be prosecuted under federal law if the computer server used in the email was located in a different state.

From the text of the U.S. Code referenced above:

8 U.S.C. § 2422(:

Whoever, using…any facility or means of interstate…commerce…knowingly persuades, induces, ENTICES… any individual who has not attained THE AGE OF 18 YEARS, to engage in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, or ATTEMPTS to do so, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 5 years and not more than 30 years.

Emphasis is mine. This guy will do hard time.

Note that the Federal Courts have found that “facility or means of interstate commerce” includes the internet and other forms of electronic communication.

I haven’t read the text of the Adam Walsh Child Protection Act of 2006, or know if it has been put into effect yet, but Foley may get more than just the mandatory minimum of 5 years under the current U.S. Code, if convicted.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/1...pens_preli.html

I thought there was discussion of the death penalty for child molesters. I believe the discussion was here, on this board, concerning use of the death penalty for convicted child molesters.

[DKW 86 7,450]

He only served 14 more years and he had SEX with the intern. Far worse than anything Foley ever did. So Al, So Tex, want to inform us on why the Dems are so superior to the Republicans on this one?

Nobody is superior to the repubs, David. You tell us so all the time. You've owned the moral high road since you annointed yourselves "God's Party." Instead of walking the walk of "the party of personal responsibility", you point your fingers at Democrats, the media, movie stars, "timing", Bill Clinton and anything else that you can to maintain your perpetual state of victimhood. Somebody's always picking on the poor republicans. You've had control of all three branches of government for the last six years and still it's the so-called "liberal media bias'" fault. You blame the minority party when America thinks your ideas are bad such as the Social Security debacle, etc. I hear republicans blaming Democrats for welfare all the time, but, what have republicans done to change the system in the six years they've had total control? And, yet, they blame Democrats.

Wow Al, that was a really good topic hijack right there.

The question was....

So Al, So Tex, want to inform us on why the Dems are so superior to the Republicans on this one?

Wow, Dave, that was a really good job of post-padding right there. As I said, nobody's superior to the republicans. You tell us so everyday.

Still not going to answer the question Al?

[DKW 86 7,450]

Found this on a blog, thought it be interesting to consider. How many counts does this #### have?

Hard time, BOHICA!

Posted by: WashingtonBigfoot | Oct 1, 2006 9:25:06 PM

Wow - Now the F.B.I. is investigating. Among the various State statutes that Mr. Foley can be prosecuted under (by State officials of course), the Federal Code that governs Mr. Foley’s conduct is clear:

From the U.S. Department of Justice website:

Luring any individual, including a child, by knowingly persuading, inducing, enticing or coercing any person…to engage in…sexual activity that constitutes a criminal offense violates federal law. See 18 U.S.C. § 2422.

An example of luring would occur if an adult found a child in a chat room and used email correspondence with the child to persuade the child meet him with the intent that the child engage in sexual activity.

Even if the child in this example did not have to cross a state line to meet the pedophile, the pedophile could be prosecuted under federal law if the computer server used in the email was located in a different state.

From the text of the U.S. Code referenced above:

8 U.S.C. § 2422( :

Whoever, using…any facility or means of interstate…commerce…knowingly persuades, induces, ENTICES… any individual who has not attained THE AGE OF 18 YEARS, to engage in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, or ATTEMPTS to do so, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 5 years and not more than 30 years.

Emphasis is mine. This guy will do hard time.

Note that the Federal Courts have found that “facility or means of interstate commerce” includes the internet and other forms of electronic communication.

I haven’t read the text of the Adam Walsh Child Protection Act of 2006, or know if it has been put into effect yet, but Foley may get more than just the mandatory minimum of 5 years under the current U.S. Code, if convicted.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/1...pens_preli.html

I thought there was discussion of the death penalty for child molesters. I believe the discussion was here, on this board, concerning use of the death penalty for convicted child molesters.

Here's hoping that the feds and the state dont buy into that alcholism bs. They should go after him with both barrels.

[Jenny AU-92 0]

I think the point here is that the Repubs are NOT defending this guy - he is already gone - kicked out, forced out, resigned, chose your words. We are repulsed and disgusted - not because he is gay, but because his actions involved not a consenting adult, but a minor.

The hypocricy of the Dems is twofold:

First, when faced with even more egregious conduct in the past by members of their own party, Dems chose not to do the right thing and force the offender out of office - Stubbs was censured and kept his job, whereas Foley is already gone. Yet in this case, because the offender is a Repub, they are screaming, taking the moral high ground and making the biggest pile of political hay they can.

Second, the Dems and Repubs both had to have known since 2000 that this guy was "overly friendly" in emails to pages. The pages themselves knew about it, so the Dems had to have known as well. WHY was it only the responsibility of the Republicans to stop him? When a child is being endangered, partisanship should not be a factor. Yes, we absolutely hold the Repoublican leadership responsible for not taking matters into their own hands, but the Dems have the same degree of culpability when they had the exact same knowlege and they never made it public either. Most states have laws that require public officials to report a child being abused and penalties if they do not. I don't know if DC has that law, but it would seem to me that ANYONE who knew about this, regardless of party, should be held accountable for not stopping him. This is not a matter of party discipline. This is a criminal matter, and that part of the law is bipartisan.

I also wonder if no Dems said anything because Foley was gay - and they don't want to piss off a constituency by going after a gay guy? That is just as plausible as saying the Repubs didn't do anything so they could hold on to power.

Speaking of that conspiracy theory, the R's have been in control of the House for a while. If they truly knew the depth of his depravity (which it seems went beyond emails to IM's, which were not made public until this week) then if keeping power was an issue, they would have gotten rid of this guy when they had the majority locked up with no concern for losing their majority. So that is also a theory as to how much someone knew and when they knew it.

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