She ain't dead yet

[TitanTiger 20,511]

Clinton projected to win Rhode Island.

Leads in Ohio 60-38 with 7% in.

[AUTiger1 0]

I was about to ask if anyone had any results to post yet. I guess I could get my lazy self into the living room and watch a little Fox News and check it out.

[TitanTiger 20,511]

Clinton up 58-40 in Ohio with 17% in.

[RunInRed 16,487]

Populations centers still have little to no vote in - Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinatti but not looking too well for Obama there

[otterinbham 0]

Man, she's like Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, rising up out of the bathtub. Will you people please drive a stake through her heart? Of course, it doesn't help that Rush Limbaugh is encouraging Republican crossover votes to vote for Hillary.

[TitanTiger 20,511]

Ohio called for the wicked witch of the West Hillary.

[WinCrimson 61]

I know it's early, but I can't understand how Cuyahoga, a heavily black county, votes for Hillary while Hamilton, a primarily white county, is breaking for Obama.

For those of you who don't live and breathe election results, Cuyahoga is Cleveland and Hamilton is Cincinnati. Yes, I'm a super nerd when it comes to campaigns.

[TitanTiger 20,511]

Hillary leads 50-48 in Texas with 48% reporting. Lead has fluctuated between 15k and 28k votes.

[TitanTiger 20,511]

Lead is up to 32k

[TitanTiger 20,511]

Still up 50-48, lead is 47k votes now with 54% in. Amazing. Like Jason from Friday the 13th.

[WinCrimson 61]

I still say she's dead.

Pennsylvania is the next big prize, but she's going to lose Wyoming and Mississippi prior to that primary. Obama's momentum took a hit but was not stopped.

[TitanTiger 20,511]

I have to admit, I'm surprised. I thought she would take Ohio in a close battle and he would take Texas in a close one. She blew him out in Ohio and has a 60k lead in Texas.

[RunInRed 16,487]

Good night for you Obama haters

[jw 4 au 526]

Good night for you Obama haters

Are you talking to me? Just kidding.

I wouldn't say hate, I actually like the guy's personality, I just don't like his politics. My personal opinion is that he makes a great politician, just not a President.

I actually thought a few months ago that the Democrats were a shoe in for the White House this year, but they couldn't seem to choose a moderate. The GOP did. It should be an interesting fall.

[TexasTiger 13,026]

Obama needs the practice taking her on in a much tougher way, IMHO. We'll see how he handles it.

[arnaldoabru 11]

Here's what is about to bit the Demos in the ass.She is going to start raising hell about the Fla and Mich primaries.I hope the poweres will stand up to the Clintion machine.

The other is McCain doesn't have to do any negative stuff just yet.He can let Hilary do it for him

[jw 4 au 526]

Here's what is about to bit the Demos in the ass.She is going to start raising hell about the Fla and Mich primaries.I hope the poweres will stand up to the Clintion machine.

The other is McCain doesn't have to do any negative stuff just yet.He can let Hilary do it for him

Isn't that ironic?!?

[otterinbham 0]

Here's what is about to bit the Demos in the ass.She is going to start raising hell about the Fla and Mich primaries.I hope the poweres will stand up to the Clintion machine.

The other is McCain doesn't have to do any negative stuff just yet.He can let Hilary do it for him

Yep. It's a no-win for the Democrats on that issue. If Obama succeeds in keeping Michigan and Florida out of the primary count, then it will make the 2000 recount controversy seem like small potatoes--for this isn't a question of whether individual votes should or should not be allowed in one district. Instead, this is the disenfranchisement of two major states. Should that really happen, expect both outraged states to vote Republican in the general election, no matter who the Democratic candidate is.

If Hillary manages to finesse them into the count, then civil war breaks out in the Democratic Party. The black vote, a long dependable Democratic asset in any general election, will vanish into thin air, and a bitter, bitter floor fight will ensue at the convention. And I don't mean arguing. I mean fistfights. Ought to be interest, I'll give you that.

[AUTiger1 0]

Well, Madame Comrade, Hitlary, still lives on. I figured that she would have to win both TX and Ohio to still have a chance. What kills me is that everyone (I am just as guilty) counted the Clinton Machine out and once again they just smacked us all in the face. I am not saying that this automatically gives her the nod, all I am saying is she just put herself back in the hunt. This race is going to be really interesting from here on out.

[RunInRed 16,487]

Interesting - I did not realize Clinton's victories only netted her 12 delegates last night.

Late-breaking numbers out of Texas’ odd two-phase voting system put an asterisk on Hillary Clinton’s Tuesday night victory speech, showing gains made by Barack Obama in the delegate grab race had all but numerically canceled out her big win in Ohio.

Although Clinton scored major moral — and morale — victories by taking more raw votes in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island, an Associated Press count of the delegates shows Clinton only reduced Obama’s delegates lead by 12 following Tuesday’s voting. She lost in Vermont to Obama.

In the overall race for the nomination, Obama had 1,562 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Clinton had 1,461. It takes 2,025 delegates to secure the Democratic nomination.

For the night, Clinton won at least 185 delegates and Obama won at least 173.

Clinton’s victory in Ohio won her only 9 more delegates than Obama, with two delegates still to be awarded. In Texas, Clinton won four more delegates than Obama in the primary. But Obama trimmed Clinton’s lead to a single Texas delegate in the party caucuses. There were still 10 delegates to be awarded in the caucuses.

The candidates vied for 370 delegates in four states: Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont. But the Democrats’ system of awarding delegates proportionally made it hard for either candidate to post big gains. Also, Texas had a two-step system, with about two-thirds of its delegates awarded in a primary, and the rest in party caucuses.

Clinton is pointing to Ohio as her biggest win from Tuesday, where she beat Obama 54-44 percent. She won the Texas vote by a slimmer 51-47 margin. Clinton won Rhode Island 58-40 percent, but Obama took Vermont by an even wider margin, 60 percent to Clinton’s 38 percent. The result is that all eyes next focus on Saturday’s contest in Wyoming and other states holding contests well into June.

Wyoming has long been off the Democrats’ radar. In 2004, the state favored George Bush over John Kerry by more than 2-to-1. Only 70,000 Wyoming Democrats cast ballots in that general election, and this year it yields a scant 12 pledged delegates. Contrast that with Tuesday’s Western state vote in Texas, where about 2.8 million Democrats cast ballots in a battle for 193 pledged delegates.

But this year, every delegate is being fought over, grabbed at and wooed, even in down-ballot states such as Wyoming, Mississippi, North Carolina and Montana. The biggest delegate prize of the remaining 12 nomination contests is seven weeks away, on April 22, when 158 pledged delegates are up for grabs in Pennsylvania.

Obama still maintains a numeric lead in the delegate count, making it nearly a statistical impossibility for Clinton to make an outright win before the August Democratic convention. Only 611 pledged delegates are still up for grabs. The candidates need 2,025 delegates to clinch the nomination.

Both Clinton and Obama were bracing themselves for a renewed fight on Wednesday.

“What’s happening in this election is that people are starting to ask themselves, you know, the questions that’ll be asked during the general election,” Clinton said, speaking with FOX News.

She added: “I think every election’s a confluence of events. You know, that’s why they’re not static. That’s why this process should go on over a period of time because, you know, new information comes out. People begin to look at the candidates differently. They ask themselves, you know, the questions about who can really be the best nominee, who can win the nomination.”

Obama, also speaking with FOX News, predicted success.

“The bottom line … is we come out of the evening with essentially the same leads in delegates as we had going in and so, we still feel very confident that — we’re going to be going to Wyoming and Mississippi this week; we think we’ll do well there. And on to Pennsylvania, North Carolina and other states after that. … We feel we’re in a very strong position to end up getting the nomination.”

But with few predictions of this race still standing, the Super Tuesday II developments could mean any number of things.

One scenario could provide a strengthened bid for Republican John McCain, who could benefit from a protracted battle between Clinton and Obama. But the reverse could be true, too, as he drops from the news headlines and the Democrats work out their weaknesses before facing the Republican machine heading into November.

Another scenario could mean a bitter end-run at the August Democratic convention. Clinton’s camp is resolute in continuing the fight, and while she still trails in the race for convention delegates, she could make a last-minute grab for the nomination on the convention floor — if it gets that far.

She and some of her top surrogates — including former President Bill Clinton and daughter, Chelsea — have been placing personal calls to maintain support among the so-called superdelegates, who aren’t bound to their state nomination contests.

But at the same time, Obama has laid the groundwork to fend off such an onslaught and is said to have a few of the superdelegates quietly on his side, at the ready to parry Clinton’s attempts to play the numbers.

For now, the contest moves on.

After Saturday’s face-off in Wyoming, next Tuesday, Mississippi Democrats head to the polls. After a voting lull, it picks up again in The Keystone State in late April and continues on in May with contests in Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky and Oregon. The June contests are in Montana and South Dakota. Democrats also have yet to vote in Guam and Puerto Rico.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/05/de...ses-on-wyoming/

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Interesting - I did not realize Clinton's victories only netted her 12 delegates last night.

Late-breaking numbers out of Texas’ odd two-phase voting system put an asterisk on Hillary Clinton’s Tuesday night victory speech, showing gains made by Barack Obama in the delegate grab race had all but numerically canceled out her big win in Ohio.

Although Clinton scored major moral — and morale — victories by taking more raw votes in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island, an Associated Press count of the delegates shows Clinton only reduced Obama’s delegates lead by 12 following Tuesday’s voting. She lost in Vermont to Obama.

In the overall race for the nomination, Obama had 1,562 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Clinton had 1,461. It takes 2,025 delegates to secure the Democratic nomination.

For the night, Clinton won at least 185 delegates and Obama won at least 173.

Clinton’s victory in Ohio won her only 9 more delegates than Obama, with two delegates still to be awarded. In Texas, Clinton won four more delegates than Obama in the primary. But Obama trimmed Clinton’s lead to a single Texas delegate in the party caucuses. There were still 10 delegates to be awarded in the caucuses.

The candidates vied for 370 delegates in four states: Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont. But the Democrats’ system of awarding delegates proportionally made it hard for either candidate to post big gains. Also, Texas had a two-step system, with about two-thirds of its delegates awarded in a primary, and the rest in party caucuses.

Clinton is pointing to Ohio as her biggest win from Tuesday, where she beat Obama 54-44 percent. She won the Texas vote by a slimmer 51-47 margin. Clinton won Rhode Island 58-40 percent, but Obama took Vermont by an even wider margin, 60 percent to Clinton’s 38 percent. The result is that all eyes next focus on Saturday’s contest in Wyoming and other states holding contests well into June.

Wyoming has long been off the Democrats’ radar. In 2004, the state favored George Bush over John Kerry by more than 2-to-1. Only 70,000 Wyoming Democrats cast ballots in that general election, and this year it yields a scant 12 pledged delegates. Contrast that with Tuesday’s Western state vote in Texas, where about 2.8 million Democrats cast ballots in a battle for 193 pledged delegates.

But this year, every delegate is being fought over, grabbed at and wooed, even in down-ballot states such as Wyoming, Mississippi, North Carolina and Montana. The biggest delegate prize of the remaining 12 nomination contests is seven weeks away, on April 22, when 158 pledged delegates are up for grabs in Pennsylvania.

Obama still maintains a numeric lead in the delegate count, making it nearly a statistical impossibility for Clinton to make an outright win before the August Democratic convention. Only 611 pledged delegates are still up for grabs. The candidates need 2,025 delegates to clinch the nomination.

Both Clinton and Obama were bracing themselves for a renewed fight on Wednesday.

“What’s happening in this election is that people are starting to ask themselves, you know, the questions that’ll be asked during the general election,” Clinton said, speaking with FOX News.

She added: “I think every election’s a confluence of events. You know, that’s why they’re not static. That’s why this process should go on over a period of time because, you know, new information comes out. People begin to look at the candidates differently. They ask themselves, you know, the questions about who can really be the best nominee, who can win the nomination.”

Obama, also speaking with FOX News, predicted success.

“The bottom line … is we come out of the evening with essentially the same leads in delegates as we had going in and so, we still feel very confident that — we’re going to be going to Wyoming and Mississippi this week; we think we’ll do well there. And on to Pennsylvania, North Carolina and other states after that. … We feel we’re in a very strong position to end up getting the nomination.”

But with few predictions of this race still standing, the Super Tuesday II developments could mean any number of things.

One scenario could provide a strengthened bid for Republican John McCain, who could benefit from a protracted battle between Clinton and Obama. But the reverse could be true, too, as he drops from the news headlines and the Democrats work out their weaknesses before facing the Republican machine heading into November.

Another scenario could mean a bitter end-run at the August Democratic convention. Clinton’s camp is resolute in continuing the fight, and while she still trails in the race for convention delegates, she could make a last-minute grab for the nomination on the convention floor — if it gets that far.

She and some of her top surrogates — including former President Bill Clinton and daughter, Chelsea — have been placing personal calls to maintain support among the so-called superdelegates, who aren’t bound to their state nomination contests.

But at the same time, Obama has laid the groundwork to fend off such an onslaught and is said to have a few of the superdelegates quietly on his side, at the ready to parry Clinton’s attempts to play the numbers.

For now, the contest moves on.

After Saturday’s face-off in Wyoming, next Tuesday, Mississippi Democrats head to the polls. After a voting lull, it picks up again in The Keystone State in late April and continues on in May with contests in Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky and Oregon. The June contests are in Montana and South Dakota. Democrats also have yet to vote in Guam and Puerto Rico.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/05/de...ses-on-wyoming/

Yeah I caught that article. Even though she didn't net a lot of delgates, I think she has slowed down the momentum that Obama has had the past month or so. Like I said in my above post, I don't think she automatically gets the nod, but she will make it a tight race down to the wire.

[RunInRed 16,487]

True. Although, mathematically I'm not sure if Hillary can win the pledged delegate race. If Michigan, Florida, and the superdelegates come into play, the DNC could have a true mess.

[TitanTiger 20,511]

Has anyone tried gloves of garlic or holy water?

[jw 4 au 526]

Has anyone tried gloves of garlic or holy water?

Gloves of garlic? Why, are her hands the only part of her that are evil? I did see someone entering the arena for her last speech with a bag filled with cloves of garlic to toss at her during the speech.

That reminds me of a time when a colleague of mine told someone once: "Don't use me as your escape goat!"

[AUTiger1 0]

True. Although, mathematically I'm not sure if Hillary can win the pledged delegate race. If Michigan, Florida, and the superdelegates come into play, the DNC could have a true mess.

Speaking of which, I saw where Mean Dean wants a do over in FL and Michigan. As an Obama supporter what's your opinion on this? Also what do you think Democrats in general will have to say about it? As a Moderate Conservative (at least that is what I tag myself), I think anything they do now becomes a mess.