Any one watching McCain's speech?

[RunInRed 16,492]

This is comical...

[bigsixfive 328]

Great. I was hoping a change in the presidency would yield a change in attitude. Instead of calmly disagreeing with someone with logical points, we're still going down the low road of laughing at and making fun of them.

[RunInRed 16,492]

Great. I was hoping a change in the presidency would yield a change in attitude. Instead of calmly disagreeing with someone with logical points, we're still going down the low road of laughing at and making fun of them.

What are you talking about?

I was referring to his words, his delivery...all comical. That speech was awful/pathetic. McCain looked lethargic in front of a handful of people. He was struggling to even read the teleprompter! Fair observation, nothing low about reflecting on what I observe.

Compare and contrast what you just saw to what's about to come...

[bigsixfive 328]

The ability to speak and job proficiency are not necessarily correlated. Keep that in mind during the next unprofound oration from your guy.

[Hoopie 6]

Great. I was hoping a change in the presidency would yield a change in attitude. Instead of calmly disagreeing with someone with logical points, we're still going down the low road of laughing at and making fun of them.

What are you talking about?

I was referring to his words, his delivery...all comical. That speech was awful/pathetic. McCain looked lethargic in front of a handful of people. He was struggling to even read the teleprompter! Fair observation, nothing low about reflecting on what I observe.

Compare and contrast what you just saw to what's about to come...

Yeah....he delivers a speech poorly...too bad because his message is dead on. He's got Obama # and if you will focus on what he says it all makes sense. He's been my candidate for 12 years because he's the least bought off major politician in DC and absolutely does what he thinks is the right thing to do without party allegience.

At first I thought Obama was really something different, but as the issues have surfaced, the inconsistencies in his message and actions have become alarming. I guess Obama will be prez. I hope I'm wrong about him.

[autiger311 0]

Obama has got to be the biggest phony in all of America. If you go ga-ga over all that motivational blabber, then there is nothing I can do to save you, but when you look at past actions and policies of this man, there is clearly a better man for the job.

[TexasTiger 13,029]

Obama has got to be the biggest phony in all of America. If you go ga-ga over all that motivational blabber, then there is nothing I can do to save you, but when you look at past actions and policies of this man, there is clearly a better man for the job.

Anybody duped by Bush twice really has no credibility critiquing others candidate choice.

[Tiger Al 0]

Obama has got to be the biggest phony in all of America. If you go ga-ga over all that motivational blabber, then there is nothing I can do to save you, but when you look at past actions and policies of this man, there is clearly a better man for the job.

Anybody duped by Bush twice really has no credibility critiquing others candidate choice.

That'll leave a mark.

[RunInRed 16,492]

Could not have said it better....

The Republican Base, Abandoned

by DemFromCT

The Democrats don't need them. The 27% of dead-enders who think George W. Bush is doing a dandy job just got thrown to the wolves by John McCain in a speech that even Fox News panned.

In a setting that highlighted McCain's discomfort, with a venue that came across like a half-filled high school auditorium, John McCain pretended to the the candidate of change, and pretended that Barack Obama was the status quocandidate. That incompetence was the problem with the Bush administration. That he, McCain, is the green candidate with a green background. That John McCain will take the country in a new direction, different than where Republicans have gone before. And John McCain knew it all along.

Say what? Does that mean that Republicans will abandon the President because McCain thinks that this administration is incompetent and has led us astray for eight years? Why would Republicans who like Bush abandon both of you?

Why wait until November, John? You voted with Bush 95% of the time this year. You served birthday cake while New Orleans drowned, then voted against Katrina relief. And, frankly, based on what you've done and not what you say tonight, why would anyone on either side of the aisle believe you?

This is going to be fascinating. Because independents diverge from the Republican base on the issues, McCain can't woo them at the same time. One cable commenter suggested hard-core Republicans might not be watching tonight as he tried to woo independents. Fat chance of that. McCain isn't subtle enough to walk the line that would attract both the rabid base and indies at the same time. If there was any doubt of that, tonight's speech proved it.

And man, McCain better get some improvement out of his media people. He got clobbered tonight in the battle of visuals. He also looked as old and as tired as I have ever seen him. And that is what others saw as well.

MORT KONDRACKE: Well, John McCain had better start working on his speechmaking and learn how to use a teleprompter. I mean, the gap, the rhetorical gap between this speech and...Oratorical gap between this speech and John McCain's was vast. John McCain sounded old. This sounded fresh and new and exciting and visionary. And he was enlisting the country to join him in a great cause. This is our moment, all of that.

Dear John McCain.

Welcome to the general election.

link

[arnaldoabru 11]

The ability to speak and job proficiency are not necessarily correlated. Keep that in mind during the next unprofound oration from your guy.

Absolutly, Bush was a heck of an orator.

[BamaGrad03 0]

Obama has got to be the biggest phony in all of America. If you go ga-ga over all that motivational blabber, then there is nothing I can do to save you, but when you look at past actions and policies of this man, there is clearly a better man for the job.

Anybody duped by Bush twice really has no credibility critiquing others candidate choice.

Anybody who follows a party who couldn't roll out someone remotely serviceable enough to beat Bush...has zero credibility in critiquing someone's candidate choice.

As bad as Bush is, we all knew he sucked. What does that say about the losers you guys rolled out?

[Tiger Al 0]

Obama has got to be the biggest phony in all of America. If you go ga-ga over all that motivational blabber, then there is nothing I can do to save you, but when you look at past actions and policies of this man, there is clearly a better man for the job.

Anybody duped by Bush twice really has no credibility critiquing others candidate choice.

Anybody who follows a party who couldn't roll out someone remotely serviceable enough to beat Bush...has zero credibility in critiquing someone's candidate choice.

As bad as Bush is, we all knew he sucked. What does that say about the losers you guys rolled out?

Pretty tough talk about George. Guess this new opinion started about 10:51, huh?

[TexasTiger 13,029]

Obama has got to be the biggest phony in all of America. If you go ga-ga over all that motivational blabber, then there is nothing I can do to save you, but when you look at past actions and policies of this man, there is clearly a better man for the job.

Anybody duped by Bush twice really has no credibility critiquing others candidate choice.

Anybody who follows a party who couldn't roll out someone remotely serviceable enough to beat Bush...has zero credibility in critiquing someone's candidate choice.

As bad as Bush is, we all knew he sucked. What does that say about the losers you guys rolled out?

Nice spin. You picked this guy you now, not then, say sucked. You now have zero credibility on all matters.

[autigeremt 6,717]

And yet he still leads in many of the national polls. Let's face it, many Americans are scared to death of Socialism. It's the best way to control the people. I for one, will not vote for that kind of "Change"

And I can promise you that!

[TexasTiger 13,029]

And yet he still leads in many of the national polls.

In which poll does he have statistically significant lead?

[WinCrimson 61]

Obama has got to be the biggest phony in all of America. If you go ga-ga over all that motivational blabber, then there is nothing I can do to save you, but when you look at past actions and policies of this man, there is clearly a better man for the job.

Anybody duped by Bush twice really has no credibility critiquing others candidate choice.

As bad as Bush is, we all knew he sucked. What does that say about the losers you guys rolled out?

What?

Sucked on giving a speech or when it comes to policy? Because I've heard from far too many in your camp that he was a successful "tough talkin' Texan" and an overall fantastic President.

You may have changed your opinion on him, but those that prayed for him over the course of an election and slapped car chalk on their windows did not, and never will, think he sucks.

And Tex, this has nothing to do with BamaGrad's football cred. The dude is Obama-esque when it comes to that stuff.

[autigeremt 6,717]

This is comical...

What I find comical is all these "Obama God Worshipers" who can't see the hammer and sickle. Socialism was about 80% of his mess. from the pulpit this evening. No wonder an old man can still hang with him.

[CCTAU 3,350]

This is comical...

What I find comical is all these "Obama God Worshipers" who can't see the hammer and sickle. Socialism was about 80% of his mess. from the pulpit this evening. No wonder an old man can still hang with him.

Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama have in terms of actual work days? Not much. From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.

After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan.

143 days -- I keep leftovers in my refrigerator longer than that. ---author unknown.

This will show quickly. After he has finished blurting out his message, McCain will step up and point out the cold hard realities of the HOPE/CHANGE pipe dream.

[TexasTiger 13,029]

This is comical...

What I find comical is all these "Obama God Worshipers" who can't see the hammer and sickle. Socialism was about 80% of his mess. from the pulpit this evening. No wonder an old man can still hang with him.

Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama have in terms of actual work days? Not much. From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.

After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan.

143 days -- I keep leftovers in my refrigerator longer than that. ---author unknown.

This will show quickly. After he has finished blurting out his message, McCain will step up and point out the cold hard realities of the HOPE/CHANGE pipe dream.

Obama's time in the United States Congress is double that of Lincoln's. But, actually, he only has to be better than McCain at this point. The people will take a look at both and decide who is better suited for the job.

[TexasTiger 13,029]

This is comical...

What I find comical is all these "Obama God Worshipers" who can't see the hammer and sickle. Socialism was about 80% of his mess. from the pulpit this evening. No wonder an old man can still hang with him.

I see you are ignoring my question regarding you supporting the crap you post. Understandable, since you just make stuff up.

[autigeremt 6,717]

This is comical...

What I find comical is all these "Obama God Worshipers" who can't see the hammer and sickle. Socialism was about 80% of his mess. from the pulpit this evening. No wonder an old man can still hang with him.

I see you are ignoring my question regarding you supporting the crap you post. Understandable, since you just make stuff up.

Not at all......when you hear it for what it is, you can see it for what it is. Obama took time to outline this new, government lead agenda to add teachers (that is a state issue), increase healthcare to all Americans (more taxes), etc. Read the transcript Mr. Know it All......it's there in black and white. Look past the trees every now and then. Get off your knees and look the man in the eye for goodness sake. He has you hook, line, and sinker.

[TexasTiger 13,029]

And yet he still leads in many of the national polls.

In which poll does he have statistically significant lead?

Get off your knees and respond to this post.

[AURaptor 1,126]

This is comical...

No one is going to take a thread like this, coming from such a partisan, seriously. Why even bother ? It's like anyone else saying " Look at Obama. He's got big ears " .

[RunInRed 16,492]

Evidently, it was not just me...

McCain's speech was creaky, ungracious, and unnecessary. I never understand why politicians don't take the opportunity, when so easily presented, to simply be gracious and hold their fire. Watching McCain, I couldn't help but think of the astonishing contrast Barack's triumphant speech to a massive and adoring crowd will be. It was not a comparison McCain should have invited.

It would have been more statesmanlike — precisely the profile McCain is attempting to craft — to acknowledge this historic moment in American politics. A major party is on the cusp of selecting an African American to be their nominee for President of the United States. It's a tribute to America that we've come this far. It would have been magnanimous to leave it at that, and wait until tomorrow to declare with enthusiasm and relish, "It's on!"

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Z...DQyZjEzYzkzZDg=

McCain's description of Obama an foolishly naive on foreign policy will be a theme repeated over and over in the upcoming weeks, as will his portrayal of the Illinois senator as a big government liberal who thinks he knows more than ordinary Americans.

But some advice for McCain. Find a new image consultant. The Arizona senator kicked off the general election campaign standing alone in front of a green backdrop, barely drawing applause from a crowd that one can only presume was very small and half asleep.

Obama, by contrast, did what Obama does best. There were 20,000 people out to hear him speak, at the same St. Paul, Minn. convention center where Republicans will hold the national convention this September.

He broke new ground and offered no new promises. But the place had energy. For all his problems - and heaven knows, Obama's got plenty - his campaign on this night seemed like the only one with the heartbeat.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/p...stay-tuned.aspx

If John McCain or his supporters had any doubts about the challenges ahead, they should have been removed last night. Obama once more demonstrated that he can hit the rhetorical heights at will, turn out a crowd whenever he needs and pose as a unifying figure, hovering above normal politics even while taking partisan jabs at his opponent. By contrast, McCain’s speech appeared defensive and uninspiring.

The buzz that surrounds Obama this morning will take a long time to die down. It is a historic moment for America that a black man has now won the nomination of a major party. This combined with his youth, eloquence and good looks will give the campaign a Camelot air for at least the next few weeks.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/americano/75300...nd-mccain.thtml

Put McCain's speech against Obama's - and this was a wipe-out. Not a victory. A wipe-out. Rhetorically, they are simply not in the same league. And if the contrast tonight between McCain and Obama holds for the rest of the campaign, McCain is facing a defeat of historic proportions.

One more thing: with McCain's and Clinton's speeches, you could not forget the politics of it. With Obama, you forgot about that at times. You actually lifted your eyes a little and believed a little and hoped a little.

Yes, he can. And anyone who under-estimates that will regret it.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/

[autigeremt 6,717]

And yet he still leads in many of the national polls.

In which poll does he have statistically significant lead?

Get off your knees and respond to this post.

Gallup has McCain ahead by 1% point. I never said SIGNIFICANT, but you love to bait and switch. They are tied in Newsweek, and Obama has a 1.4% lead in the Real Clear Politics. They are tied in the Rasmussen Poll.

I am most assured that Obama will take a lead in the polls after his sermon last evening. McCain has never been a real firebreather, and I don't see him being able to match the oral attributes of pastor Obama. Obama has to run on show and speak, he cannot win a head to head on issues. He's a great speaker, no denying that. I was always ready to hear his next speech until the truth about his past came out. He will be the most polarizing person in the history of the United States if elected, because I think he is covering up his true feelings about many Americans. That's not going to make him a great leader by no means.